House hearing on Biden's failures withdrawing from Afghanistan

[miketx]

No point in talking to any of these lying sob's.

 

[Delldude]

Trump already cut the deal. The US has to stick with it's agreements not change every time the wind changes.

Biden took ownership when he changed the plan.

 

[jknowgood]

I love it

I would like to see how Republicans deconstruct the Biden withdrawal from what Trump agreed to with the Taliban

Better yet, let’s go all the way back to Bush

But Biden said Trump didn't leave him a plan. You lying or is Biden lying?

 

[surada]

Biden took ownership when he changed the plan.

Trump pulled the troops out and freed the prisoners in Sept 2020.

I don't know how a rational person could blame Biden.

The US state department had do not travel warnings for several years. Expats knew they needed to leave...and had plenty of time to do so.

The US has no jurisdiction over civilian Americans abroad.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The truth is out.....Biden failed and in doing so,killed 13 US soldiers.

The Biden administration ignored intelligence community warnings that its plan to withdraw troops from Afghanistan would prove deadly, current and former military officials told Congress Thursday.

"There was very little intelligence to suggest the Biden administration’s plan would work and a mountain range of evidence to suggest the plan would fail," retired Col. Seth Krummrich, former chief of staff for special operations at U.S. Central Command, testified on Thursday before the House Foreign Affairs Committee. "The president’s decision to ignore the best military advice and execute an immediate military withdrawal was a shock and a rude awakening for all the planners."
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Bagram also had "the mechanical capability to destroy sensitive equipment on an industrial scale in a short time," while Kabul airport "did not," according to Smith. If the State Department had chosen Bagram as the site of its evacuation, the military likely could have destroyed much of $7.2 billion in sensitive military equipment that was left behind and ultimately seized by the Taliban.


"I advised the embassy team against using" the Kabul airport, Smith said, noting that the State Department initially agreed with his assessment. However, officials back in Washington, D.C., ordered the base be shut down by early July 2021. "It is my understanding that those in [U.S.] embassy did not think that Taliban would advance to take Kabul."

Biden Admin Ignored Warnings About Withdrawing Troops From Afghanistan, Military Leaders Say

This was one of Biden's biggest fuckups.

Had he just stuck to Trump's timeline and gotten everyone out by the end of May there would have been no issues .

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I don't know how a rational person could blame Biden.

You can blame Biden because he pushed the date back so he could have a made for TV moment on the anniversary of 9/11.

Had he left when in May the Taliban would have still be half a country away.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No rational person blames Biden.

 

[surada]

This was one of Biden's biggest fuckups.

Had he just stuck to Trump's timeline and gotten everyone out by the end of May there would have been no issues .

They didn't have enough troops to secure the highway from Kabul to Bagram and never had jurisdiction over civilian expats.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They didn't have enough troops to secure the highway from Kabul to Bagram and never had jurisdiction over civilian expats.

Correct, one more reason not to have delayed the withdrawal.

 

[Delldude]

I don't know how a rational person could blame Biden.

Biden's current and former generals all tossed Biden under the bus.
It would have been real easy to toss Trump under the bus but they didn't.....why?

 

[The Duke]

Trump already cut the deal. The US has to stick with it's agreements not change every time the wind changes.

The problem is that Biden didn't stick to the agreement. That's the source of the trouble.

Biden thought he could do whatever he wanted, and it just isn't like that.

 

[Captain Caveman]

It was Trump that negotiated and signed the peace treaty with the Taliban that required us to exit the country. We were supposed to leave in April but Biden delayed until August to allow a more orderly exit. Trump negotiated the departure and made sure it would take place after the election and did exactly nothing to prepare for it. He essentially left a burning bag of on Biden's doorstep.

It was up to Biden to do the detail on the withdrawal. It proved none existent and disastrous.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No rational person blames Biden.

Sure they do. They also blame Trump as it was somewhat his fault.

If you are a mindless partisan drone you only blame one of the two, depending upon which party you sold your soul to.

 

[alang1216]

It was up to Biden to do the detail on the withdrawal. It proved none existent and disastrous.

I doubt anyone could have done a much better job since no one thought the Afghan Army would implode so quickly.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Reasonable people blame Trump, of course, unless they are mindless MAGA drones.

 

[surada]

I doubt anyone could have done a much better job since no one thought the Afghan Army would implode so quickly.

Trump's negotiations with the Taliban didn't include the Afghan army or the government.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump's negotiations with the Taliban didn't include the Afghan army or the government.

Because everyone knew when we left the Taliban would take over.

 

[rightwinger]

But Biden said Trump didn't leave him a plan. You lying or is Biden lying?

Trump had a treaty with the Taliban……his “plan” was to leave 2500 troops and leave Biden with cleaning up a 20 year old mess

Why wouldn’t Trump transition something so important?

 

[Captain Caveman]

I doubt anyone could have done a much better job since no one thought the Afghan Army would implode so quickly.

A tub of lard would have done better than paedo dementia boy.

 

[Delldude]

The problem is that Biden didn't stick to the agreement. That's the source of the trouble.

Biden thought he could do whatever he wanted, and it just isn't like that.

At that moment he owned it from then on.