Hostile Takeover of the Republican Party? What Should Happen Now?

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    Anybody who has read some USMB posts with objectivity, or who have noted the trends on other boards, know that many even lifelong Republicans have not been happy with the GOP over the last several years.

    Anybody reading with objectivity now can't miss that conservative Republicans are holding the GOP's feet to the fire now and, if it is business at usual, a third party by 2012 is almost inevitable. The GOP will be done.

    Eric Erickson at Redstate outlines some of the immediate issues:

    So major gains in the House and Senate aren't enough. If they don't keep the Tea Party coalition intact and let them do the work--if they keep the old guard GOP in chairmanships--it will quickly revert to the status quo and we won't have moved any closer to the ideals we hope for.

    This is going to be interesting to watch though.
     
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    Two thoughts:

    Kudos and WTF?
     
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    Yeah that was my initial reaction too and I read Eric's post several times to decide what I thought about it.

    But then i realized that the Republican gains in the House will indeed be largely ineffective for any long term benefit if the Tea Partiers, of whom Boehnor has become one, if the RINOs now in power in the House are not replaced with Tea Party minded Republicans. And to replace the big guns like Joe Barton and Lindsay Graham with Tea Partiers will indeed be a hostile takeover. :)
     
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    The point of the Tparty is the point of the election of 94 and 06. The electorate is not ideologically bound, but is mostly interested in eliminating back room deals and government by purchase. In 94 there was the house bank, and the bribery scandals that never seemed to end. The Democrats refused to get it, and the GOP promised more open government, and delivered for a short while. In 2006 the Republicans obviously forgot the message, and they were reminded by the voters about what is truly important. And the Democrats went back on their pledges as well.
    Which is why so many lost this time.
     
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    This I think is Erickson's whole point and why I used the 'hostile takeover' analogy. As he said, Mitch McConnell hasn't learned a damn thing and intends to be business as usual in the senate. When he rejected a call for a moratorium on earmarks, that said volumes. He's still in it for the benefit of Mitch McConnell which seems to be a chronic syndrome with too many of our fearless leaders.

    But we do have opportunity to make some important inroads in the House and that starts with putting people into key positions who are likely to walk the walk. And it will appear to be a 'hostile takeover' to replace some of the old guard with the new visionaries.
     
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    The GOP needs to morph itself into the Tea Party or vice versa. No need for a third party, just keep replacing RINOS with conservatives.
     
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    Of course I agree, but the observation here is that the RINOs won't go without a fight. I agree that the GOP can stop the runaway train and put us back on a road to balanced budgets, full employment, and prosperity again IF they embrace the Tea Party ideals. If they return to the 'liberal light' mentality that has cost them much of their base, I really do think they'll be done and we can stick the fork in them in another two years.
     
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    Those who barenakedislam call RINOS are going nowhere but are committed to eliminating neo-conservatism, corporatism, and social values ideology in the party. If the Tea Party right are willing to do that, then the center and left in the party will join them.
     
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    I love it, every time the extremist right wing GOP fails the CON$ claim the GOP was not CON$ervative enough. I can remember KrautHammer&Sickle telling us that the GOP had purged the last vestiges of the Rockefeller Republicans in 2006 and moved to the Right. When will the GOP ever be CON$ervative enough?????

    Charles Krauthammer - Only a Minor Earthquake - washingtonpost.com
    Only a Minor Earthquake
    By Charles Krauthammer
    Friday, November 10, 2006; Page A31

    This is not realignment. As has been the case for decades, American politics continues to be fought between the 40-yard lines. The Europeans fight goal line to goal line, from socialist left to ultra-nationalist right. On the American political spectrum, these extremes are negligible. American elections are fought on much narrower ideological grounds. In this election the Democrats carried the ball from their own 45-yard line to the Republican 45-yard line.

    The fact that the Democrats crossed midfield does not make this election a great anti-conservative swing. Republican losses included a massacre of moderate Republicans in the Northeast and Midwest. And Democratic gains included the addition of many conservative Democrats, brilliantly recruited by Rep. Rahm Emanuel with classic Clintonian triangulation. Hence Heath Shuler of North Carolina, antiabortion, pro-gun, anti-tax -- and now a Democratic House member.

    The result is that both parties have moved to the right. The Republicans have shed the last vestiges of their centrist past, the Rockefeller Republicans. And the Democrats have widened their tent to bring in a new crop of blue-dog conservatives.
     
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    Social values - like what? Is corporatism another word for capitalism? But seriously, get rid of all that and the RINOS should just become Democrats. The RINOS have ruined the GOP and now they are on their way out. Just as the left is getting rid of their blue dogs, we will get rid of the RINOS.
     

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