Hospitals save $100 million in Medicare costs under state experiment

Many don't remember the huge hit hospitals took under Ronnie Ray-Gun's socialist EMTALA. The US no longer has burn units, trauma centers and many clinics and hospitals have closed. Professional staff have taken huge cuts in pay and benefits.

We should repeal stupid laws rather than pass more stupid laws to "compensate".

Now if only everyone shared your definition of "stupid laws," what a wonderful world it would be.

And we have that agreement. I'm talking about EMTALA - which everyone seems to agree was a bad law.

It was a Band-aid on a desperate situation. An inexcusable situation, one might argue, in the Best Damn Country in the World™.

Why is it "I love my country...I just hate most of the people in it"?

??? Are you trying to make a point?

You and the other shills love to bag on EMTALA, using it as an excuse to let the insurance industry rape us with ACA. If EMTALA was the problem, all we needed to do was repeal it. We didn't need to sell our souls to Aetna.
 
Many don't remember the huge hit hospitals took under Ronnie Ray-Gun's socialist EMTALA. The US no longer has burn units, trauma centers and many clinics and hospitals have closed. Professional staff have taken huge cuts in pay and benefits.

We should repeal stupid laws rather than pass more stupid laws to "compensate".

Now if only everyone shared your definition of "stupid laws," what a wonderful world it would be.

And we have that agreement. I'm talking about EMTALA - which everyone seems to agree was a bad law.

It was a Band-aid on a desperate situation. An inexcusable situation, one might argue, in the Best Damn Country in the World™.

Why is it "I love my country...I just hate most of the people in it"?

??? Are you trying to make a point?

You and the other shills love to bag on EMTALA, using it as an excuse to let the insurance industry rape us with ACA. If EMTALA was the problem, all we needed to do was repeal it. We didn't need to sell our souls to Aetna.

Nope.
 
We should repeal stupid laws rather than pass more stupid laws to "compensate".

Now if only everyone shared your definition of "stupid laws," what a wonderful world it would be.

And we have that agreement. I'm talking about EMTALA - which everyone seems to agree was a bad law.

It was a Band-aid on a desperate situation. An inexcusable situation, one might argue, in the Best Damn Country in the World™.

Why is it "I love my country...I just hate most of the people in it"?

??? Are you trying to make a point?

You and the other shills love to bag on EMTALA, using it as an excuse to let the insurance industry rape us with ACA. If EMTALA was the problem, all we needed to do was repeal it. We didn't need to sell our souls to Aetna.

Nope.

Heh... that's all ya got.
 
Now if only everyone shared your definition of "stupid laws," what a wonderful world it would be.

And we have that agreement. I'm talking about EMTALA - which everyone seems to agree was a bad law.

It was a Band-aid on a desperate situation. An inexcusable situation, one might argue, in the Best Damn Country in the World™.

Why is it "I love my country...I just hate most of the people in it"?

??? Are you trying to make a point?

You and the other shills love to bag on EMTALA, using it as an excuse to let the insurance industry rape us with ACA. If EMTALA was the problem, all we needed to do was repeal it. We didn't need to sell our souls to Aetna.

Nope.

Heh... that's all ya got.

None of you are able to refute it.
 
Medicare already fines hospitals millions for what they deem "unnecessary" treatment....so why not.

Links?
Again.

Why is it you never know anything related to healthcare?

Medicare Fines 2,610 Hospitals In Third Round Of Readmission Penalties

Which, if you really were in the healthcare business, you'd understand as a function of excessive billing.

Example: Medicare patient with CHF and comorbidities requires a TAVR. Cardiologist, cardiac surgeon, sleep specialist, etc., etc., etc. require multiple EKGs, echocardiograms, sleep studies, MRIs, rinse, repeat in order to come to the same conclusion: Patient needs a TAVR.

Why do they do this? Because the hospital they're affiliated with is one of the top hospitals for cardiac surgery in the nation. If the patient dies before he undergoes surgery, it doesn't make them look bad. The longer they can stall and keep billing Medicare, the better.
And they fine hospitals unfairly. Which btw are usually the hospitals serving the poorest communities .
***************************************

"Dr. Don Goldmann, chief medical and science officer at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, a Massachusetts nonprofit, cautioned against attributing the drop in readmissions only to the penalties, since the government also has other, less punitive programs underway. “There’s so much at play,” Goldmann said. “I’d be careful about imputing the reduction to any one intervention.”

As the penalties have played out, an increasing number of prominent experts are voicing concerns that the punishments are too harsh and doled out unfairly. For one thing, Medicare lowers payments to hospitals even if they have reduced their readmission rates from the previous year—so long as their rate is still higher than what the government believes is appropriate for that hospital. Medicare uses the national readmission rate to help decide what appropriate rates for each hospital, so to reduce their fines from previous years or avoid them altogether, hospitals must not only reduce their readmission rates but do so better than the industry did overall."

The source you've cited is from October, 2014. Has there been an update?
You mean you don't know?
 
Many don't remember the huge hit hospitals took under Ronnie Ray-Gun's socialist EMTALA. The US no longer has burn units, trauma centers and many clinics and hospitals have closed. Professional staff have taken huge cuts in pay and benefits.

We should repeal stupid laws rather than pass more stupid laws to "compensate".

Now if only everyone shared your definition of "stupid laws," what a wonderful world it would be.

And we have that agreement. I'm talking about EMTALA - which everyone seems to agree was a bad law.

It was a Band-aid on a desperate situation. An inexcusable situation, one might argue, in the Best Damn Country in the World™.

Why is it "I love my country...I just hate most of the people in it"?

??? Are you trying to make a point?

You and the other shills love to bag on EMTALA, using it as an excuse to let the insurance industry rape us with ACA. If EMTALA was the problem, all we needed to do was repeal it. We didn't need to sell our souls to Aetna.

Yes, Obamanomics is working just great now.

Give an industry a captive market and kid yourself into thinking that those "improvements" on paper are really improvements.
 

Which, if you really were in the healthcare business, you'd understand as a function of excessive billing.

Example: Medicare patient with CHF and comorbidities requires a TAVR. Cardiologist, cardiac surgeon, sleep specialist, etc., etc., etc. require multiple EKGs, echocardiograms, sleep studies, MRIs, rinse, repeat in order to come to the same conclusion: Patient needs a TAVR.

Why do they do this? Because the hospital they're affiliated with is one of the top hospitals for cardiac surgery in the nation. If the patient dies before he undergoes surgery, it doesn't make them look bad. The longer they can stall and keep billing Medicare, the better.
And they fine hospitals unfairly. Which btw are usually the hospitals serving the poorest communities .
***************************************

"Dr. Don Goldmann, chief medical and science officer at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, a Massachusetts nonprofit, cautioned against attributing the drop in readmissions only to the penalties, since the government also has other, less punitive programs underway. “There’s so much at play,” Goldmann said. “I’d be careful about imputing the reduction to any one intervention.”

As the penalties have played out, an increasing number of prominent experts are voicing concerns that the punishments are too harsh and doled out unfairly. For one thing, Medicare lowers payments to hospitals even if they have reduced their readmission rates from the previous year—so long as their rate is still higher than what the government believes is appropriate for that hospital. Medicare uses the national readmission rate to help decide what appropriate rates for each hospital, so to reduce their fines from previous years or avoid them altogether, hospitals must not only reduce their readmission rates but do so better than the industry did overall."

The source you've cited is from October, 2014. Has there been an update?
You mean you don't know?

Bing.......you got it.
 
And we have that agreement. I'm talking about EMTALA - which everyone seems to agree was a bad law.

It was a Band-aid on a desperate situation. An inexcusable situation, one might argue, in the Best Damn Country in the World™.

Why is it "I love my country...I just hate most of the people in it"?

??? Are you trying to make a point?

You and the other shills love to bag on EMTALA, using it as an excuse to let the insurance industry rape us with ACA. If EMTALA was the problem, all we needed to do was repeal it. We didn't need to sell our souls to Aetna.

Nope.

Heh... that's all ya got.

None of you are able to refute it.

Unable to 'refute' childish negation? Uh... ok, I guess not. You are the winner!
 
There have been several articles written about it...

Here is one of many.

Safety net hospitals hit hardest by Medicare fines

But didn't you know that hospitals are making money.

Because those with overpriced plans who can afford to utilize them are now reducing the number of people going to the hospital (hospitals now have different models....don't let them come back....no matter what). But those who do pay....

The rest just suck on it.
 
Hospitals could save a lot of money if we allowed them to turn away people at the ER.

They can also save a lot of money if they get to people before they show up in the ER, as Maryland is showing. Once hospitals can generate margin by keeping people healthy instead of increasing service volume, they've got a whole new business model to operate under. One in which health care isn't just about waiting for acute events to hit and making money off them, but rather about focusing on the health of the community outside the hospital's walls.

If I could laugh any harder I would.

Hospitals are only getting those who can afford to go there to begin with.

When your deductible is to high....you don't go.

So, it's great that Obamacare has weeded out people and marked them for "no care" instead of worrying about the quality of care.

[Crickets]
 

Which, if you really were in the healthcare business, you'd understand as a function of excessive billing.

Example: Medicare patient with CHF and comorbidities requires a TAVR. Cardiologist, cardiac surgeon, sleep specialist, etc., etc., etc. require multiple EKGs, echocardiograms, sleep studies, MRIs, rinse, repeat in order to come to the same conclusion: Patient needs a TAVR.

Why do they do this? Because the hospital they're affiliated with is one of the top hospitals for cardiac surgery in the nation. If the patient dies before he undergoes surgery, it doesn't make them look bad. The longer they can stall and keep billing Medicare, the better.
And they fine hospitals unfairly. Which btw are usually the hospitals serving the poorest communities .
***************************************

"Dr. Don Goldmann, chief medical and science officer at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, a Massachusetts nonprofit, cautioned against attributing the drop in readmissions only to the penalties, since the government also has other, less punitive programs underway. “There’s so much at play,” Goldmann said. “I’d be careful about imputing the reduction to any one intervention.”

As the penalties have played out, an increasing number of prominent experts are voicing concerns that the punishments are too harsh and doled out unfairly. For one thing, Medicare lowers payments to hospitals even if they have reduced their readmission rates from the previous year—so long as their rate is still higher than what the government believes is appropriate for that hospital. Medicare uses the national readmission rate to help decide what appropriate rates for each hospital, so to reduce their fines from previous years or avoid them altogether, hospitals must not only reduce their readmission rates but do so better than the industry did overall."

The source you've cited is from October, 2014. Has there been an update?
You mean you don't know?

I mean intelligent people understand that if they want to prove their point, they're able to post current information. Apparently you're unable to do that.
 
Again.

Why is it you never know anything related to healthcare?

Medicare Fines 2,610 Hospitals In Third Round Of Readmission Penalties

Which, if you really were in the healthcare business, you'd understand as a function of excessive billing.

Example: Medicare patient with CHF and comorbidities requires a TAVR. Cardiologist, cardiac surgeon, sleep specialist, etc., etc., etc. require multiple EKGs, echocardiograms, sleep studies, MRIs, rinse, repeat in order to come to the same conclusion: Patient needs a TAVR.

Why do they do this? Because the hospital they're affiliated with is one of the top hospitals for cardiac surgery in the nation. If the patient dies before he undergoes surgery, it doesn't make them look bad. The longer they can stall and keep billing Medicare, the better.
And they fine hospitals unfairly. Which btw are usually the hospitals serving the poorest communities .
***************************************

"Dr. Don Goldmann, chief medical and science officer at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, a Massachusetts nonprofit, cautioned against attributing the drop in readmissions only to the penalties, since the government also has other, less punitive programs underway. “There’s so much at play,” Goldmann said. “I’d be careful about imputing the reduction to any one intervention.”

As the penalties have played out, an increasing number of prominent experts are voicing concerns that the punishments are too harsh and doled out unfairly. For one thing, Medicare lowers payments to hospitals even if they have reduced their readmission rates from the previous year—so long as their rate is still higher than what the government believes is appropriate for that hospital. Medicare uses the national readmission rate to help decide what appropriate rates for each hospital, so to reduce their fines from previous years or avoid them altogether, hospitals must not only reduce their readmission rates but do so better than the industry did overall."

The source you've cited is from October, 2014. Has there been an update?
You mean you don't know?

I mean intelligent people understand that if they want to prove their point, they're able to post current information. Apparently you're unable to do that.
Riiight.
 
There have been several articles written about it...

Here is one of many.

Safety net hospitals hit hardest by Medicare fines

But didn't you know that hospitals are making money.

Because those with overpriced plans who can afford to utilize them are now reducing the number of people going to the hospital (hospitals now have different models....don't let them come back....no matter what). But those who do pay....

The rest just suck on it.
Libs are apparently okay with low income hospitals getting funding only to have the government steal it with bogus Medicare fines.
 
Which, if you really were in the healthcare business, you'd understand as a function of excessive billing.

Example: Medicare patient with CHF and comorbidities requires a TAVR. Cardiologist, cardiac surgeon, sleep specialist, etc., etc., etc. require multiple EKGs, echocardiograms, sleep studies, MRIs, rinse, repeat in order to come to the same conclusion: Patient needs a TAVR.

Why do they do this? Because the hospital they're affiliated with is one of the top hospitals for cardiac surgery in the nation. If the patient dies before he undergoes surgery, it doesn't make them look bad. The longer they can stall and keep billing Medicare, the better.
And they fine hospitals unfairly. Which btw are usually the hospitals serving the poorest communities .
***************************************

"Dr. Don Goldmann, chief medical and science officer at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, a Massachusetts nonprofit, cautioned against attributing the drop in readmissions only to the penalties, since the government also has other, less punitive programs underway. “There’s so much at play,” Goldmann said. “I’d be careful about imputing the reduction to any one intervention.”

As the penalties have played out, an increasing number of prominent experts are voicing concerns that the punishments are too harsh and doled out unfairly. For one thing, Medicare lowers payments to hospitals even if they have reduced their readmission rates from the previous year—so long as their rate is still higher than what the government believes is appropriate for that hospital. Medicare uses the national readmission rate to help decide what appropriate rates for each hospital, so to reduce their fines from previous years or avoid them altogether, hospitals must not only reduce their readmission rates but do so better than the industry did overall."

The source you've cited is from October, 2014. Has there been an update?
You mean you don't know?

I mean intelligent people understand that if they want to prove their point, they're able to post current information. Apparently you're unable to do that.
Riiight.

Isn't it ironic that the board moron who posts nothing in the way of information is making this statement.

ROTFLMAO
 
And they fine hospitals unfairly. Which btw are usually the hospitals serving the poorest communities .
***************************************

"Dr. Don Goldmann, chief medical and science officer at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, a Massachusetts nonprofit, cautioned against attributing the drop in readmissions only to the penalties, since the government also has other, less punitive programs underway. “There’s so much at play,” Goldmann said. “I’d be careful about imputing the reduction to any one intervention.”

As the penalties have played out, an increasing number of prominent experts are voicing concerns that the punishments are too harsh and doled out unfairly. For one thing, Medicare lowers payments to hospitals even if they have reduced their readmission rates from the previous year—so long as their rate is still higher than what the government believes is appropriate for that hospital. Medicare uses the national readmission rate to help decide what appropriate rates for each hospital, so to reduce their fines from previous years or avoid them altogether, hospitals must not only reduce their readmission rates but do so better than the industry did overall."

The source you've cited is from October, 2014. Has there been an update?
You mean you don't know?

I mean intelligent people understand that if they want to prove their point, they're able to post current information. Apparently you're unable to do that.
Riiight.

Isn't it ironic that the board moron who posts nothing in the way of information is making this statement.

ROTFLMAO

I give you far more credit than you give yourself.
 

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