Hoping Racists Are Wrong -- But Fearing They're Right

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    Fred Reed on American Renaissance.

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    American Renaissance: Racists or Diagnosticians? | The Occidental Quarterly

    Racism is in bad odor among the virtuous. I wonder why. At least, I wonder why any discussion of race is thought to be racism. The United States faces grave racial problems—more accurately, has them but doesn’t face them. Refusal to acknowledge their existence is not productive: Few problems are solved by forbidding their mention. The question should not be whether views are racist, but whether they are wrong.

    American Renaissance, run by Jared Taylor, is quite racist in the poorly thought out and sniffish sense prevalent today. AmRen (as it is generally known) has recently gotten much bad press because it holds all manner of views whose mention results in pack attack by our arbiters of What Can Be Discussed: For example, that blacks commit violent crime at far higher rates than do whites, that massive immigration from Latin America offers no advantages to the United States but a great many evils, that affirmative action lowers the competence of government, the universities, and schools in general—and so on.

    These ideas are no doubt racist, yes. Unpleasant, yes. But—are they wrong?
     
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    Are we saying "its tough to talk about racism with someone calling you a racist?"
     
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    more like...its impossible to acknowledge that there are different races, ethnicities and genders without being called a racist.
     
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    Shouldn't the question be whether racist views are right? What are the positives in being a racist that makes a diverse society better?
     
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    "Racism is not about how you look, it is about how people assign meaning to how you look." Robin D.G. Kelley

    When man first climbed out of the muck that created life some core piece of code claimed that the man was special and that the other men were not special. Conscious life made each of us special but soon we die, in a moment, soon, yet some persist after cleaning off the muck in their specialness. It makes them feel important and more real than they do normally. But each person goes through the same birth growth aging and sickness and death. So there is nothing special about any of us, but no one can say that, can face that, they must look at the other as the fault of all that is, and they must raise themselves up to be special. The muck is gone but the emptiness persists. Every group of immigrants who came to this country faced the same hatreds, it seems having something confers on the owner a specialness that then allows them to hate the next group to rise out of the muck, or to want a better life for them and theirs. Weird how primitive man is after a mere few thousand years. Will some future species dig up our bones and ponder the beliefs of these small dinosaurs with large heads filled with emptiness. Probably.

    "Racism isn't born, folks, it's taught. I have a two-year-old son. You know what he hates? Naps!" Dennis Leary


    MYTH: Affirmative action is reverse discrimination, it gives preferential treatment to people of color and women.

    FACT: Racism is power plus discrimination. The parameters of discrimination based on race are distinguished by the power dynamics. Reverse racism is not, therefore a reality if people of color are not in positions of power and perpetrating the discrimination. An Urban Institute study shows that less that 100 of 3000 cases could be considered reverse discrimination. Less that six of those cases were deemed by the court to be substantiated.

    Talking About Affirmative Action

    'Poll: Most Americans see lingering racism -- in others' Poll: Most Americans see lingering racism -- in others - CNN.com

    White affirmative action.
    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/When-Affirmative-Action-White-Twentieth-Century/dp/0393328511/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8]Amazon.com: When Affirmative Action Was White: An Untold History of Racial Inequality in Twentieth-Century America (9780393328516): Ira Katznelson: Books[/ame]


    Racial grammar
    Vijay Prashad: Racist Grammar


    "What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator." Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 8
     
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    Yeah... on opposite day!
     

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