Hope for the Western USA

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    wow...yes, I HATE Oil companies...

     
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    Well, lets face it, they are entitled to make a profit based on supply and demand. The more fuel efficient cars come out, guess what happens to prices?

    Having a 35% tax, though, doesn't help. At $2.00 a gallon, the price SHOULD be $1.30

    THAT I can live with. :D

    -I have 3 vehicles that get LESS than 12 mpg each.

    -But they have POWER :cool:
     
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    uh - did you read the article?

    that's not simple 'supply and demand'.
     
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    Well, I just RE-READ it and it still seemed ok to me.

    Remember, I don't like paying more than I have to either, but when you own a business, you have a right to charge what you want to.

    Then again, when you have a monopoly going, -oh wait, THAT is illegal.

    They never DO address the issues.

    I guess we need to get the govt. out of there and let the competition take over. If prices and quality are equal across the board, get 'em for price setting. Otherwise, what can they do when regulated by govt.?
     
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    okay -

    is it right for a business to charge WHITE people one price, and black people another?

    That's akin to what the oil companies are doing. For NO reason, other than they have motorists by the balls, they are OVER-CHARGING people in the west.


    see?
     
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    Drive a steam engine then.
    It is called "whatever the market will bear". I am victim to the system as well.

    -Until I take myself OUT of the system.

    Given, most of us need cars to survive, but that is a learned dependency. If we used horses, steam cars, or some other such thing, gas would not be a necessity.

    The point is that just because we see someone else pays less based on economy, that doesn't mean that we should scream that all should pay one price. Last I checked, that was akin to socialism. California has more money floating around which justifies the higher price. As I said, the cars make the consumption less as well therefore driving the price up. It is all really simple.
     
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    Are you gonna shack up in the woods "unibomber style"?
     
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    Well, I am no fan of oil companies per se, but gasoline taxes in WA are insanely high. How about lowering the gas tax for some price relief?
    How about relaxing environmental restrictions to make the cost of refining gasoline cheaper, thereby reducing gasoline prices?
    How about driving more fuel efficient cars? Now before everyone jumps down my throat, I will never advocate the use of government regulation to force people to drive cars they don't want to drive. But, from a purely economical standpoint, it is cheaper to drive a Kia (which I drive) than a Ford Excursion.
    How about ensuring that you go to the gas station with the cheapest prices, instead of habitually hitting the same station, whose prices may be higher than others in the area?
    Or, if all else fails, go buy a bunch of stock in ChevronTexaco, MobilExxon, Shell, etc., and profit off of high gas prices in the way of dividends! ChevronTexaco yiels 3.22%, and Royal Dutch yields 4%.
     
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    Not always...because you drive alone it is. If you had 20 people to haul, I bet it'd be more effiecient in an Excursion. ;)

    This is about price gouging...not taxes nor supply and demand. It's about Oil companies banding together to drive up prices for NO OTHER REASON than 'they can'. Should Power companies, Utilities charge those people EAST of Meridian Avenue/street/whatever, 20% more simply because the people have no choice but to pay it?
     
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    :rolleyes:
     

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