'Homeland' To Buy 22 Million MORE Rounds Of Ammunition...

[paulitician]

DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

Federal agency has now acquired enough bullets to wage 30 year war

The Department of Homeland Security is set to purchase a further 21.6 million rounds of ammunition to add to the 1.6 billion bullets it has already obtained over the course of the last 10 months alone, figures which have stoked concerns that the federal agency is preparing for civil unrest.

A solicitation posted yesterday on the Fed Bid website details how the bullets are required for the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico.

The solicitation asks for 10 million pistol cartridge .40 caliber 165 Grain, jacketed Hollow point bullets (100 quantities of 100,000 rounds) and 10 million 9mm 115 grain jacketed hollow point bullets (100 quantities of 100,000 rounds).

The document also lists a requirement for 1.6 million pistol cartridge 9mm ball bullets (40 quantities of 40,000 rounds).

An approximation of how many rounds of ammunition the DHS has now secured over the last 10 months stands at around 1.625 billion. In March 2012, ATK announced that they had agreed to provide the DHS with a maximum of 450 million bullets over four years, a story that prompted questions about why the feds were buying ammunition in such large quantities.

To put that in perspective, during the height of active battle operations in Iraq, US soldiers used 5.5 million rounds of ammunition a month. Extrapolating the figures, the DHS has purchased enough bullets over the last 10 months to wage a full scale war for almost 30 years.

Such massive quantities of ammo purchases have stoked fears that the agency is preparing for some kind of domestic unrest. In 2011, Department of Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano directed Immigration and Customs Enforcement to prepare for a mass influx of immigrants into the United States, calling for the plan to deal with the “shelter” and “processing” of large numbers of people.

The federal agency’s primary concern is now centered around thwarting “homegrown terrorism,” but information produced and used by the DHS to train its personnel routinely equates conservative political ideology with domestic extremism.

A study funded by the Department of Homeland Security that was leaked last year characterizes Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority,” and “reverent of individual liberty” as “extreme right-wing” terrorists.

In August 2012, the DHS censored information relating to the amount of bullets purchased by the federal agency on behalf of Immigration & Customs Enforcement, citing an “unusual and compelling urgency” to acquire the bullets, noting that there is a shortage of bullets which is threatening a situation that could cause “substantial safety issues for the government” should law enforcement officials not be adequately armed...

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[Katzndogz]

Homeland has to have something to distribute to the cartels.

 

[paulitician]

Not fond of Big Brother? Well guess what, you're considered a Terrorist now. What a country we've become. How sad.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hmmm, buying ammo, asking the military if they'd have a problem firing on US Citizens, using drones to execute American citizens...nope, nothing to see here

 

[paulitician]

Hmmm, buying ammo, asking the military if they'd have a problem firing on US Citizens, using drones to execute American citizens...nope, nothing to see here

Yeah, the NWO Globalist assholes are in full takeover-mode at this point. Now people can understand why there's an ammo shortage. Big Brother is buying it all up to be used against the People in the future. Pretty hard to get ammo these days. But apparently not for Big Brother.

 

[SteadyMercury]

It is entertaining watching you clowns making your leaps of logic to reach your paranoid conclusions.

The training center for this gigantic government agency with quarter of a million employees is buying lots of bullets for its Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. Therefore... they are preparing to use them on the people. Gotcha.

 

[boedicca]

As alarming as this may sound, the real issue is the distortion of the supply chain for the private sector.

In CA, the state government cannot even find the wherewithal to confiscate guns from less than 20,000 known felons and mentally ill people. How on earth is the DHS going to attack the millions of guns owners? Most bureaucratic functionaries are not part of the "gun culture", despite The Won's pathetic Skeet Photo Op. And the Army and the National Guard are not going to attack Americans for exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.

 

[boedicca]

Hmmm, buying ammo, asking the military if they'd have a problem firing on US Citizens, using drones to execute American citizens...nope, nothing to see here

This is contains the correct motorcycle. We're more at risk of drone strikes than armed assault by our government.

 

[tjvh]

It is entertaining watching you clowns making your leaps of logic to reach your paranoid conclusions.

The training center for this gigantic government agency with quarter of a million employees is buying lots of bullets for its Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. Therefore... they are preparing to use them on the people. Gotcha.

Do you know how many centuries it would take the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center to go through that amount of ammo? Don't be ridiculous.

 

[tjvh]

It's obvious to me that the Government is trying to artificially inflate prices, and reduce availability of ammo while Obama embarks on his National gun grab.

 

[Bigfoot]

This seems pretty reasonable to me. This purchase will provide for many agencies with armed personnel. You get thousands of people shooting 500-1000 per day at the range and you go through a lot of rounds.

75 million rounds of ammunition that are fired each year in Switzerland during military and civilian target practice.

..and that's in a country with with an estimated 2.3 to 4.5 million firearms.

The FBI estimates that there are over 200 million privately-owned firearms in the US. If you add those owned by the military, law enforcement agencies and museums, there is probably about 1 gun per person in the country.

The amount of ammo that the government is ordering is not extraordinary and will do little to drive up prices for the average citizen here in the USA.

Reference:

How Switzerland Developed a Gun Culture That Works | TIME.com

How many guns are in the United States of America

 

[Bigfoot]

I found this article here that is also of good interest

As for the ammunition being solicited by DHS with bids ending Feb. 11, here are a few examples to put the amount into perspective:

In 2012, defense contractor AKT was awarded a five-year contract to provide 450 million rounds (max) to DHS.
The government sought 175 million rounds of .223 caliber rifle ammo in 2012 as well.
Maj. Gen. Buford C. Blount III said in 2004 testimony to the Tactical Air and Land Forces Subcommittee of the Committee on Arms Services that soldiers used 72 million rounds in Iraq in 2003 and that their expenditure at the time was 5.5 million rounds per month.

At the time of ATK’s contract award for 450 million rounds last spring, TheBlaze’s Tiffany Gabbay wrote that while this might seem like a lot of ammo, it wasn’t unusual. Gabbay wrote gun experts saying that it was part of a practice by such agencies to spend any budget surplus on useful items before the end of the fiscal year. That could be what is going on with this latest request for ammo but we don’t know for sure.

Former Navy SEAL Brandon Webb, who runs the website SOFREP (the Special Operations Forces Report) told us in an email that everything on the list looks “perfectly normal” to him.

Homeland Security Soliciting Bids for 26.1 Million Rounds of Ammunition But Former SEAL Explains Why It?s Completely Normal | TheBlaze.com

 

[TruthSeeker56]

It's obvious to me that the Government is trying to artificially inflate prices, and reduce availability of ammo while Obama embarks on his National gun grab.

You NAILED it.

The federal government is using taxpayer money and borrowed money to buy as much ammunition as they can get their greedy hands on, under the guise of "national security" and law enforcement "training" and military "training".

Their END GAME is to adversely affect ammo supply so private citizens either can't FIND the ammo for their firearms, or can't AFFORD to buy the ammo for their firearms.

The federal government is using the BACK DOOR to disarm all gun owners, because they know the front door has a loaded gun behind it.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Homeland has to have something to distribute to the cartels.

Hell... they sold em the guns why not the ammo?

 

[MikeK]

It is entertaining watching you clowns making your leaps of logic to reach your paranoid conclusions.

The training center for this gigantic government agency with quarter of a million employees is buying lots of bullets for its Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. Therefore... they are preparing to use them on the people. Gotcha.

The report specifies they are ordering hollow-point ammunition, which is not used for training purposes. The purpose of a hollow-point bullet is enhanced trauma effect on a living organism. The appropriate bullet used in training is ordinary lead ball.

A question arises as to where they plan to store all that ammo. So much lead will eventually produce an extremely unhealthy atmosphere in an enclosed environment.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Hmmm, buying ammo, asking the military if they'd have a problem firing on US Citizens, using drones to execute American citizens...nope, nothing to see here

I know right!! It's become so obvious that I'm starting to think it's a diversion.

 

[Bigfoot]

Gun owners have bought about 12 billion rounds of ammunition in the past year, industry officials estimate. That's up from 7 billion to 10 billion in a normal year.

Bullets are speeding faster out of gun shops in U.S. - Washington Post

 

[Black_Label]

It's obvious to me that the Government is trying to artificially inflate prices, and reduce availability of ammo while Obama embarks on his National gun grab.

You NAILED it.

The federal government is using taxpayer money and borrowed money to buy as much ammunition as they can get their greedy hands on, under the guise of "national security" and law enforcement "training" and military "training".

Their END GAME is to adversely affect ammo supply so private citizens either can't FIND the ammo for their firearms, or can't AFFORD to buy the ammo for their firearms.

The federal government is using the BACK DOOR to disarm all gun owners, because they know the front door has a loaded gun behind it.

The federal government has their own private ammo manufactures that has nothing to do with the civilian open market. Nice tinfoil conspiracy theory

 

[Missourian]

From the NRA:

© 2012 National Rifle Association of America. Institute for Legislative Action. This may be reproduced. It may not be reproduced for commercial purposes.


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Federal Law Enforcement Agencies Buy Ammunition

Posted on August 17, 2012

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You may recently have seen some in the Internet rumor mill feverishly repeating the obvious truth above, in an effort to stir up fear about recent acquisitions of ammunition by the Department of Homeland Security and a number of smaller agencies. The mildest writers have questioned why seemingly mundane agencies would need ammunition at all; more incendiary authors suggest that these government agencies are preparing for a war with the American people.

Much of the concern stems from a lack of understanding of the law enforcement functions carried about by officers in small federal agencies. These agents have the power to make arrests and execute warrants, just like their better-known counterparts at agencies like the FBI.

For instance, the Social Security Administration solicited offers for 174,000 rounds of pistol ammunition. But the agency has 295 special agents who combat Social Security fraud that costs tax payers billions each year, so the order works out to roughly 590 rounds of ammunition per agent for training, mandatory quarterly qualification shooting and duty use. More than a few NRA members would use that much ammunition in a weekend shooting class or plinking session.

Another recent rumor questioned a request for 46,000 rounds of.40-caliber ammo by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. NOAA inadvertently fueled that speculation through a clerical error that suggested the ammunition was destined for the National Weather Service. NOAA later clarified that the ammunition was actually for the little known Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement, which enforces laws against illegal fishing and marine life importation. The ammunition is for 63 personnel, amounting to about 730 rounds per officer.

The most widespread of the recent rumors involves a Department of Homeland Security contract for a maximum of 450 million rounds of .40-caliber jacketed hollow-points, to be supplied over the next five years.

After receiving numerous questions from his constituents regarding the contract, pro-Second Amendment U.S. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.) and his staff set out in search of the truth. In a press release, Rep. Westmoreland's office explains:

If you take the number of agencies that will be using this ammunition – CBP, Citizenship and Immigration Services, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), ICE, the U.S. Secret Service, Transportation Security Administration, the DHS police force, and all the guards that protect the various buildings these agencies are housed in, and spread that out over 5 years, you start to see that 450 million rounds really isn't that large of an order. Especially considering it is used for training purposes like firing range and live fire exercises, on-the-job use (though that is very limited), and to shore up their supplies. In fact, there are 65,000 – 70,000 law enforcement personnel at DHS who would be covered under this … ammunition contract. If DHS were to purchase all 450 million rounds over 5 years, then that would equate to only about 1,384 rounds of ammo per year per law enforcement [officer] … assuming the lower estimate of only 65,000 law enforcement personnel at DHS. Considering those agents go through training exercises several times per year, that is not a lot of ammunition.

Perhaps most strangely, some have cited the purchase of hollow-point ammunition as evidence of the federal government's evil motives. Hollow-points are the defensive ammunition of choice for federal, state and local law enforcement officers across the country, just as they are for private citizens. These attacks are eerily similar to statements made by gun prohibitionists, who spent the much of the '70s, '80s and '90s complaining about "dum dum" bullets. (In fact, the Violence Policy Center's website still exhibits a publication lamenting that federal ammunition law "has no effect on today's generation of high-tech hollow-point ammunition.") The attacks also ignore the fact that federal agents, unlike average taxpayers on more limited budgets, normally train and qualify with their duty ammunition.

As most gun owners will agree, skepticism of government is healthy. But today, there are more than enough actual threats to the Second Amendment to keep gun owners busy. With two key Supreme Court decisions hanging by a one-vote margin, the Justice Department deeply involved in a cover-up of a disastrous Mexican gun smuggling operation, and President Obama touting a ban on popular semi-automatic firearms, there is no need to invent additional threats to our rights.

NRA-ILA | Federal Law Enforcement Agencies Buy Ammunition

 

[SteadyMercury]

Well I guess Missourian's post is quite the wet blanket on the latest tin hatter cause... you guys may now return to refreshing the front page of infowars for your next big expose to regurgitate here.