Home Depot Founder: Obama's Regulations Are Killing Businesses

[daveman]

And here was Bush's 'job' while Americans were drowning, dying from heat exposure and dehydration...

I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...

Mother-of-the-president Barbara Bush during a visit to the Hurricane Katrina refugee shelter in the Houston Astrodome:

"What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them."

Irrelevant. NOLA was Nagin's responsibility. He let his citizens down.

And fools like you let him get away with it.

Yes, Bush was irrelevant. The lives of the American people were not his 'burden'...he had more important things to do.

You really need to make up your mind. Was Bush relevant, or not? Oh, and while you're at it, can you show me where the President has the authority to bypass local government and evacuate a city?


OR -- you could just admit Bush had nothing to do with Nagin's failure.

Of course, you will refuse to do either.

 

[Bfgrn]

Irrelevant. NOLA was Nagin's responsibility. He let his citizens down.

And fools like you let him get away with it.

Yes, Bush was irrelevant. The lives of the American people were not his 'burden'...he had more important things to do.

You really need to make up your mind. Was Bush relevant, or not? Oh, and while you're at it, can you show me where the President has the authority to bypass local government and evacuate a city?


OR -- you could just admit Bush had nothing to do with Nagin's failure.

Of course, you will refuse to do either.

Here is your term for the day: NATIONAL DISASTER

And here is how a REAL leader acts:

Hurricane Betsy hits New Orleans

In the first hours, President Lyndon B. Johnson called 20 government agencies: Corps of Engineers, Veterans Administration, Food and Drug Administration, Agricultural Department, Small Business Administration, all the services: Army, Navy, Air Force, the National Command Center, Department of Agriculture, Interior, Maritime, Housing and Home Finance, Bureau of Yards and Docks and Navy, Federal Communications, Federal Aviation, Bureau of Public Roads, Treasury, Commerce, and Interstate Commerce Commission.

5 hours later LBJ, the President of the United States, was in New Orleans running the rescue effort!

LBJ anticipated ALL the problems Bush blames on others!

Before boarding Air Force One LBJ had a phone conversation with Robert Phillips the 1965 version of Michael Brown. LBJ didn't WAIT to see what Phillips would do...

LBJ TOLD Phillips WHAT to do and HOW to do it:

White House Transcript excerpt:
President Lyndon B. Johnson: "we've got to cut out all the red tape. We've got to work around the clock. We've got to ignore hours. We've got to bear in mind that we exist for only one purpose and that's to the greatest good for the greatest number. And the people who've lost their homes, people who have lost their furniture, the people who have lost some of their crops and even their families are not going to be very interested in any individual differences between federal or state or local agencies."

LBJ GOT THINGS DONE! AND; You didn't say NO to LBJ!

Phillips wasn't hoping for "Bobby, you're doing a heck of a job." Phillips was PRAYING HIS nuts wouldn't end up flying from the White House flagpole!!!

EXCUSES are for people that CAN'T get things done. WE CAN'T tolerate that in a President.

Two Texans, ONE President...

 

[Sunshine]

What regulations are KILLING BUSINESS?

ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THIS GUY WAS TALKING ABOUT?

Cannot help but note that so many people bought into this complaint without a qualm, yet nobody seems much interested in discussing which of these business killing regulations the guy was talking about.

Wait a minute, the guy didn't actrally mention any specific "business killing" regs, did he?

Odd that he is so upset about regulations but fails to note even one, don't you think?

Odder still that people sign onto a vague complain like his without having a CLUE what they're also complaining about, too.

Look around your home and name one single thing in it that is not regulated.

An interesting class I had in law school was Administrative Law. Administrative regulation is largely a function of the executive branch. Virtually no one knows what all these regs are just because there are so many boards. People can conceptualize of criminal & civil law because it is so open to them. But most people are minimally aware or completely unaware of the number of administrative regulatory boards there are out there, largely because many of these regulatory agencies are unseen until someone runs afoul of them..

The boards with which I am most familiar are the health related boards. But there are administrative boards which regulate everything in your life.

Just for shits and giggles, here is a list of the regulatory boards here in my little state of KY.

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/kar/titles.htm

Every city, county, and state has regulatory boards, as does the federal government. They are there and you can't even flush your toilet without some regulatory board governing it.

I agree the topic of this thread is vague, but do some digging for yourselves and you will see the big picture emerge. The water you drink, even the air you breathe is regulated.

 

[daveman]

Yes, Bush was irrelevant. The lives of the American people were not his 'burden'...he had more important things to do.

You really need to make up your mind. Was Bush relevant, or not? Oh, and while you're at it, can you show me where the President has the authority to bypass local government and evacuate a city?


OR -- you could just admit Bush had nothing to do with Nagin's failure.

Of course, you will refuse to do either.

Here is your term for the day: NATIONAL DISASTER

I was right. You punked out. Gasp.

 

[daveman]

What regulations are KILLING BUSINESS?

ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THIS GUY WAS TALKING ABOUT?

Cannot help but note that so many people bought into this complaint without a qualm, yet nobody seems much interested in discussing which of these business killing regulations the guy was talking about.

Wait a minute, the guy didn't actrally mention any specific "business killing" regs, did he?

Odd that he is so upset about regulations but fails to note even one, don't you think?

Odder still that people sign onto a vague complain like his without having a CLUE what they're also complaining about, too.

Look around your home and name one single thing in it that is not regulated.

An interesting class I had in law school was Administrative Law. Administrative regulation is largely a function of the executive branch. Virtually no one knows what all these regs are just because there are so many boards. People can conceptualize of criminal & civil law because it is so open to them. But most people are minimally aware or completely unaware of the number of administrative regulatory boards there are out there, largely because many of these regulatory agencies are unseen until someone runs afoul of them..

The boards with which I am most familiar are the health related boards. But there are administrative boards which regulate everything in your life.

Just for shits and giggles, here is a list of the regulatory boards here in my little state of KY.

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/kar/titles.htm

Every city, county, and state has regulatory boards, as does the federal government. They are there and you can't even flush your toilet without some regulatory board governing it.

I agree the topic of this thread is vague, but do some digging for yourselves and you will see the big picture emerge. The water you drink, even the air you breathe is regulated.

But remember: Opposition to stifling and burdensome regulation automatically means you want KKKorporations to have the freedom to poison the air and water, killing their customers, to maximize profit.

Yeah, I know, it doesn't make any sense. But that's leftists for you.

 

[Bfgrn]

You really need to make up your mind. Was Bush relevant, or not? Oh, and while you're at it, can you show me where the President has the authority to bypass local government and evacuate a city?


OR -- you could just admit Bush had nothing to do with Nagin's failure.

Of course, you will refuse to do either.

Here is your term for the day: NATIONAL DISASTER

I was right. You punked out. Gasp.

Was Katrina a 'local' disaster? Take your time...

 

[KissMy]

Wait what the fuck? MORE buses means LESS traffic? Kinda not obvious to me how that's possible, maybe you can explain how dropping 300 buses into a traffic jam makes the traffic jam dissipate.

You seem to lack even the most basic factual understanding. First of all the Buses run on Diesel and or Propane, CNG, LNG but not Gasoline. Gasoline shortage is what caused traffic jams & slow evacuations. There was not a Diesel shortage during Katrina or any other hurricane evacuation. The HOV lanes were not contra-flowed & designated lanes can be established for busses only & convoy. Fuel depots, roads, stores buses & anything else can be commandeered by police with no government orders.

Every bus can take the place of 50 cars & trucks evacuating citizens from a city. The City of New Orleans officials had 550 municipal buses and 300+ additional buses available for evacuation. These 850 buses would have taken 42,500 cars off the highway & out of gas stations per trip & evacuated 80,000 per trip. Less traffic & gas lines means way faster evacuations. There were 1,472 police officers available to load, drive & escort these buses out of New Orleans. Nagin & Blanco screwed up & 200 cops deserted them. This still left 1,272 cops to drive 850 buses! Yet it 100% Bush's fault! You prove yourself to be a bigger idiot with every post.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Here is your term for the day: NATIONAL DISASTER

I was right. You punked out. Gasp.

Was Katrina a 'local' disaster? Take your time...

Katrina was a disaster in NO. Everyone else (like where the center of the storm hit) handled the evacuations and the cleanup just fine.

 

[uscitizen]

if Obama's policies are hurting business so bad, why are the profits they make so large?

Only multi national companies are making money in & from foreign countries. Want a job, move to a foreign country. Profits from USA customers is dismal. Small business in the USA is dead. To many regulations in the USA.

Sure Wally World ig going broke.
LMAO
So are the oil Companies selling us oil.

I believe we are still maybe the buggest buyers of automobiles.
TV's, etc
And how many billion alone is the cellular industry?
I believe the USA is still the largest economy of any country in the world.

 

[Sunshine]

Cannot help but note that so many people bought into this complaint without a qualm, yet nobody seems much interested in discussing which of these business killing regulations the guy was talking about.

Wait a minute, the guy didn't actrally mention any specific "business killing" regs, did he?

Odd that he is so upset about regulations but fails to note even one, don't you think?

Odder still that people sign onto a vague complain like his without having a CLUE what they're also complaining about, too.

Look around your home and name one single thing in it that is not regulated.

An interesting class I had in law school was Administrative Law. Administrative regulation is largely a function of the executive branch. Virtually no one knows what all these regs are just because there are so many boards. People can conceptualize of criminal & civil law because it is so open to them. But most people are minimally aware or completely unaware of the number of administrative regulatory boards there are out there, largely because many of these regulatory agencies are unseen until someone runs afoul of them..

The boards with which I am most familiar are the health related boards. But there are administrative boards which regulate everything in your life.

Just for shits and giggles, here is a list of the regulatory boards here in my little state of KY.

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/kar/titles.htm

Every city, county, and state has regulatory boards, as does the federal government. They are there and you can't even flush your toilet without some regulatory board governing it.

I agree the topic of this thread is vague, but do some digging for yourselves and you will see the big picture emerge. The water you drink, even the air you breathe is regulated.

But remember: Opposition to stifling and burdensome regulation automatically means you want KKKorporations to have the freedom to poison the air and water, killing their customers, to maximize profit.

Yeah, I know, it doesn't make any sense. But that's leftists for you.

It isn't always the regulations themselves that are stifling. Often it is the political nature of the boards. Then again there are regulatory boards that have made it possible for people to enjoy rights they would otherwise have lost. I'm thinking specifically of riparian rights. Example: You have been a cattle farmer for 50 years. Someone buys the next farm over and diverts the water away from your farm where you need it and have used it for 50 years for your cattle.

And we do enjoy a lot of protections through administrative boards. Think about this one. In Egypt they have no state board exam for their students to take when they graduate nursing school. Anyone who graduates from nursing school can practice. Now THAT makes me shiver every time I think about it.

In China, there is no clean water. They have increased the life expectancy of their population by getting the people to boil their water. And I can tell you, they are PICKY about their water. If you think about it, without chlorine WE have no clean water either. We just have the convenience of not having to boil it.

 

[KissMy]

if Obama's policies are hurting business so bad, why are the profits they make so large?

Only multi national companies are making money from foreign countries. Profits from us customers is dismal.

Home Depot Inc., the largest U.S. home-improvement retailer, posted a 21 percent gain in third- quarter profit that beat analysts’ estimates and increased its earnings forecast for the year after curbing expenses.

Home Depot Profit Beats Analysts' Estimate on Improving Margin - Bloomberg

Do you understand the difference in profit margin & sales? Margin means slash expences & cut jobs. Sales & revenue are down.

From your source

The average sales ticket was $51.47, 42 cents lower than a year earlier, as homeowners curbed major expenses such as kitchen remodeling.

Home Depot Inc. Period Ending ................. Jan 30, 2011 ...... Jan 31, 2010 ....... Feb 1, 2009
Total Cash Flow From Operating Activities . $4,585,000,000 ... $5,125,000,000 ... $5,528,000,000

 

[daveman]

Here is your term for the day: NATIONAL DISASTER

I was right. You punked out. Gasp.

Was Katrina a 'local' disaster? Take your time...

Everywhere it hit, it was a local disaster. Nagin's responsibilities to his city didn't disappear because the next town over was also hit.

 

[daveman]

Look around your home and name one single thing in it that is not regulated.

An interesting class I had in law school was Administrative Law. Administrative regulation is largely a function of the executive branch. Virtually no one knows what all these regs are just because there are so many boards. People can conceptualize of criminal & civil law because it is so open to them. But most people are minimally aware or completely unaware of the number of administrative regulatory boards there are out there, largely because many of these regulatory agencies are unseen until someone runs afoul of them..

The boards with which I am most familiar are the health related boards. But there are administrative boards which regulate everything in your life.

Just for shits and giggles, here is a list of the regulatory boards here in my little state of KY.

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/kar/titles.htm

Every city, county, and state has regulatory boards, as does the federal government. They are there and you can't even flush your toilet without some regulatory board governing it.

I agree the topic of this thread is vague, but do some digging for yourselves and you will see the big picture emerge. The water you drink, even the air you breathe is regulated.

But remember: Opposition to stifling and burdensome regulation automatically means you want KKKorporations to have the freedom to poison the air and water, killing their customers, to maximize profit.

Yeah, I know, it doesn't make any sense. But that's leftists for you.

It isn't always the regulations themselves that are stifling. Often it is the political nature of the boards. Then again there are regulatory boards that have made it possible for people to enjoy rights they would otherwise have lost. I'm thinking specifically of riparian rights. Example: You have been a cattle farmer for 50 years. Someone buys the next farm over and diverts the water away from your farm where you need it and have used it for 50 years for your cattle.

And we do enjoy a lot of protections through administrative boards. Think about this one. In Egypt they have no state board exam for their students to take when they graduate nursing school. Anyone who graduates from nursing school can practice. Now THAT makes me shiver every time I think about it.

In China, there is no clean water. They have increased the life expectancy of their population by getting the people to boil their water. And I can tell you, they are PICKY about their water. If you think about it, without chlorine WE have no clean water either. We just have the convenience of not having to boil it.

There are unelected people who have an awful lot of authority over us.

I can see that authority being abused for political reasons, too. Have you seen that?

 

[Sunshine]

But remember: Opposition to stifling and burdensome regulation automatically means you want KKKorporations to have the freedom to poison the air and water, killing their customers, to maximize profit.

Yeah, I know, it doesn't make any sense. But that's leftists for you.

It isn't always the regulations themselves that are stifling. Often it is the political nature of the boards. Then again there are regulatory boards that have made it possible for people to enjoy rights they would otherwise have lost. I'm thinking specifically of riparian rights. Example: You have been a cattle farmer for 50 years. Someone buys the next farm over and diverts the water away from your farm where you need it and have used it for 50 years for your cattle.

And we do enjoy a lot of protections through administrative boards. Think about this one. In Egypt they have no state board exam for their students to take when they graduate nursing school. Anyone who graduates from nursing school can practice. Now THAT makes me shiver every time I think about it.

In China, there is no clean water. They have increased the life expectancy of their population by getting the people to boil their water. And I can tell you, they are PICKY about their water. If you think about it, without chlorine WE have no clean water either. We just have the convenience of not having to boil it.

There are unelected people who have an awful lot of authority over us.

I can see that authority being abused for political reasons, too. Have you seen that?

Yes, in many cases the people on these administrative boards are unelected. Yes, I have seen that. I'm trying to think of a good example. One that would be a local entity close to our hearts.

OK, here's you one: TN nursing board under scrutiny over discipline case | The Tennessean | tennessean.com

 

[daveman]

It isn't always the regulations themselves that are stifling. Often it is the political nature of the boards. Then again there are regulatory boards that have made it possible for people to enjoy rights they would otherwise have lost. I'm thinking specifically of riparian rights. Example: You have been a cattle farmer for 50 years. Someone buys the next farm over and diverts the water away from your farm where you need it and have used it for 50 years for your cattle.

And we do enjoy a lot of protections through administrative boards. Think about this one. In Egypt they have no state board exam for their students to take when they graduate nursing school. Anyone who graduates from nursing school can practice. Now THAT makes me shiver every time I think about it.

In China, there is no clean water. They have increased the life expectancy of their population by getting the people to boil their water. And I can tell you, they are PICKY about their water. If you think about it, without chlorine WE have no clean water either. We just have the convenience of not having to boil it.

There are unelected people who have an awful lot of authority over us.

I can see that authority being abused for political reasons, too. Have you seen that?

Yes, in many cases the people on these administrative boards are unelected. Yes, I have seen that. I'm trying to think of a good example. One that would be a local entity close to our hearts.

OK, here's you one: TN nursing board under scrutiny over discipline case | The Tennessean | tennessean.com

Bad stuff.

No question that boards do a lot of good and necessary work Hopefully, abuses like this interference in a board's decisions are the exception to the rule, as are board decisions based on political considerations.

 

[boedicca]

On a related note: I'm Just Quitting...

After Bryant listened to all of the business-bashing, he finally stood to speak. He sounded a little bit shellshocked, a little bit angry — and a lot frustrated.

"My name’s Ronnie Bryant, and I’m a mine operator…. I’ve been issued a [state] permit in the recent past for [waste water] discharge, and after standing in this room today listening to the comments being made by the people…. [pause] Nearly every day without fail — I have a different perspective — men stream to these [mining] operations looking for work in Walker County. They can’t pay their mortgage. They can’t pay their car note. They can’t feed their families. They don’t have health insurance. And as I stand here today, I just … you know … what’s the use? I got a permit to open up an underground coal mine that would employ probably 125 people. They’d be paid wages from $50,000 to $150,000 a year. We would consume probably $50 million to $60 million in consumables a year, putting more men to work. And my only idea today is to go home. What’s the use? I don’t know. I mean, I see these guys — I see them with tears in their eyes — looking for work. And if there’s so much opposition to these guys making a living, I feel like there’s no need in me putting out the effort to provide work for them. So as I stood against the wall here today, basically what I’ve decided is not to open the mine. I’m just quitting. Thank you."

I have no idea what Bryant will actually do. He might have made a quick emotional decision based on anger at feeling blamed for things that are frequently just normal health issues of life. He might reconsider and go ahead with his project.

The only thing I’m sure of is that what I saw today is a broken process and a sham. We all want a decent environment in which to live, but when various people at a public meeting — including federal officials and community members — talk about “environmental justice” and make it clear that their intent is to make it harder for businesses to operate, well, I can see why a businessman would decide to quit. I consider myself an environmentalist — because I want to live in a safe, secure, clean world — but what I saw isn’t reasonable concern for the environment as much as it’s an ideological agenda...

‘I’m just quitting’: A scene right out of ‘Atlas Shrugged’ in Birmingham « David McElroy

 

[Sunshine]

On a related note: I'm Just Quitting...

After Bryant listened to all of the business-bashing, he finally stood to speak. He sounded a little bit shellshocked, a little bit angry — and a lot frustrated.

"My name’s Ronnie Bryant, and I’m a mine operator…. I’ve been issued a [state] permit in the recent past for [waste water] discharge, and after standing in this room today listening to the comments being made by the people…. [pause] Nearly every day without fail — I have a different perspective — men stream to these [mining] operations looking for work in Walker County. They can’t pay their mortgage. They can’t pay their car note. They can’t feed their families. They don’t have health insurance. And as I stand here today, I just … you know … what’s the use? I got a permit to open up an underground coal mine that would employ probably 125 people. They’d be paid wages from $50,000 to $150,000 a year. We would consume probably $50 million to $60 million in consumables a year, putting more men to work. And my only idea today is to go home. What’s the use? I don’t know. I mean, I see these guys — I see them with tears in their eyes — looking for work. And if there’s so much opposition to these guys making a living, I feel like there’s no need in me putting out the effort to provide work for them. So as I stood against the wall here today, basically what I’ve decided is not to open the mine. I’m just quitting. Thank you."

I have no idea what Bryant will actually do. He might have made a quick emotional decision based on anger at feeling blamed for things that are frequently just normal health issues of life. He might reconsider and go ahead with his project.

The only thing I’m sure of is that what I saw today is a broken process and a sham. We all want a decent environment in which to live, but when various people at a public meeting — including federal officials and community members — talk about “environmental justice” and make it clear that their intent is to make it harder for businesses to operate, well, I can see why a businessman would decide to quit. I consider myself an environmentalist — because I want to live in a safe, secure, clean world — but what I saw isn’t reasonable concern for the environment as much as it’s an ideological agenda...

‘I’m just quitting’: A scene right out of ‘Atlas Shrugged’ in Birmingham « David McElroy

Coal mining has been an issue here in KY for a long time. I just skimmed the article, so I'm asking if this was a town hall meeting which usually ends up with no changes taking place.

Boards often give the people a chance to 'speak out.' Regardless what is said, they go ahead and do their thing. I suspect it was the same her. I have to wonder what this guy got playing the martyr.

 

[jgarden]

Home Depot is the place to 'hire' cheap labor, so contractrors and slum lords as well as some homeowners don't have to pay into Social Security, Medicare, Medicade, UE Insursnce, etc etc.. Maybe the founder ought to police his own parking lot before he offers critiscism of anyone else.

If you're opposed to illegal immigrants you ought to boycott Home Depot.

That's just plain stupid....Home Depot is not encouraging the illegals that hang around their stores looking for work....i know of some stores that have fenced off their lots in order to keep them away...but the illegals still hang around the streets outside the fences...

maybe if the Federal Government did ITS job there wouldn't be this problem...

Home Depot doesn't have a whole lot of choice about "policing its parking lots" in many areas, because liberals have mangled the laws there so badly that trying to move along those illegals loitering around out there would just get HD sued for discrimination.

Luke 18:24-25 The Rich Young Ruler

[24] Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!
[25] Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Perhaps "those illegals loitering around out there" on Home Depot parking lots are waiting "to enter the kingdom" of God," while Bernie Marcus and his rich collegues would be well advised to figure out the logistics of squeezing themselves and their wealth through "the eye of a needle!"