Hitler and the right

[Ravi]

Only a leftist imbecile would accuse conservatives of being communists! Here's a primer for you idiot, conservatives support limited government with maximum freedoms for the citizen.

Leftist collectivists (like you) believe the State should have the power and the individual should be subjugated to the power of that State.

Got it?

Oh, thats right! Conservatives in Russia support limited government with maximum freedoms for the citizen. Conservatives in Russia espouse all the virtues of Americana; they warmly embrace the US Constitution, can recite the Declaration of Independence by heart. They love capitalism and the 'invisible hand'

You're delusional Conservatives in Russia long for the days of the Soviet Union. Conservatives in America long for the days of limited Constitutional government. The two don't equate…. I hate keeping this stupid ass thread going. It should be in the conspriacy room with the rest of the nut job threads

What nonsense. Conservatives in America long for the days when women were "in their place", the government decided who gives birth and when, and the government decided whom may marry whom.

They wouldn't know limited constitutional government if it bit them in the ass.

 

[Bfgrn]

Only a leftist imbecile would accuse conservatives of being communists! Here's a primer for you idiot, conservatives support limited government with maximum freedoms for the citizen.

Leftist collectivists (like you) believe the State should have the power and the individual should be subjugated to the power of that State.

Got it?

Oh, thats right! Conservatives in Russia support limited government with maximum freedoms for the citizen. Conservatives in Russia espouse all the virtues of Americana; they warmly embrace the US Constitution, can recite the Declaration of Independence by heart. They love capitalism and the 'invisible hand'

You're delusional Conservatives in Russia long for the days of the Soviet Union. Conservatives in America long for the days of limited Constitutional government. The two don't equate…. I hate keeping this stupid ass thread going. It should be in the conspriacy room with the rest of the nut job threads

The last 30 years has been the conservative era. How much did Republicans limit government? Oh, that right, they GREW government. But they didn't want to PAY for it.

Where did our debt come from? When did massive debt become part of the American economy?

Reagan switched the federal government from what he critically called, a “tax and spend” policy, to a “borrow and spend” policy, where the government continued its heavy spending, but used borrowed money instead of tax revenue to pay the bills. The results were catastrophic. Although it had taken the United States more than 200 years to accumulate the first $1 trillion of national debt, it took only five years under Reagan to add the second one trillion dollars to the debt. By the end of the 12 years of the Reagan-Bush administrations, the national debt had quadrupled to $4 trillion!

daveman accuses me of wanting to implement European policies in America. The TRUTH is Russia is the model conservatives want to turn America into.

Conservative Russia

People simply do not realize that Russia is a deeply conservative country.

Fiscal policy is buttressed on a low, flat rate of income tax (13%), and there is virtually no social safety net, with spending on unemployment security, medical provision, disability aid, infrastructure, the environment, and urban regeneration far lower, in both absolute terms and as a percentage of GDP, than its G8 contemporaries.

Similarly, military spending is high in comparison — and growing — medical care is available free in theory, but requires private insurance or additional cash payment in practice, and businesses are in reality pretty un-regulated.

If that doesn’t sound to you like a set of policies Newt Gingrich or William F Buckley would support, then you don’t know your dyed in the wool conservatives from your woolly jumper wearing liberals.

After 80 years of Marxist indoctrination, young ladies in Russia often reject feminism, men ooze with unrepentant machismo, and the population appears to generally support a penal code that could have been based on Dostoyevsky’s work.

Many cities and regions across Russia have passed "anti-gay" laws that ban gay parades and gay propaganda. St.Petersburg's recently proposed legislation

"Under the proposed legislation, promoting homosexuality will be punishable by fines ranging from 5,000 rubles ($168) for individuals to 500,000 rubles ($16,800) for legal entities. This is almost 10 times more than in the first version of the law."

Mothers petition St. Petersburg to drop anti-gay legislation — RT

Russia and Belarus are the only countries in Europe to still use the death penalty (ban expired 2011). Russia forces sex offenders to have chemical castration.

"From now on people found guilty of sex crimes against children under the age of 14 will face chemical castration, while repeat offenders face a life sentence."

Russia introduces chemical castration for pedophiles — RT

A few months ago, Russia passed strict new anti-abortion laws.

"President Dmitri A. Medvedev has signed into law the first steps intended to restrict abortion since the collapse of communism. The new law made mandatory a waiting period of two to seven days before an abortion can be performed, to allow the woman to "reconsider her decision"

Russia Restricts Abortions As Population Dips

 

[thanatos144]

Isn't it humorous that Progressives keep trying to paint their failures as rightwing?

 

[daveman]

WOW, you should take Shakespeare's wisdom. But, conservatives in America believe they are the center of the universe, and any other philosophy must be dismissed. EVEN when it is the conservatism of other conservatives on this planet.

October 16, 2001

What's truly ironic about this whole war is that the conservatives in our country do not seem to realize that the Taliban is simply an extreme version of the same primal impulse that drives them.

In every population there is a distribution of conservative to progressive, aggressive to peaceful, etc.

Of course, it's funny how the same personality type seems to latch on to radically different ideas depending on the society. "Conservatives" here profess a belief in capitalism and extol the virtues of the good old days of the 1950's, a half century ago; "conservatives" in Russia pine for the bygone days of the stability of the old Soviet empire. I believe that the propensity in conservatives is not towards ideologies per se, but rather towards status quo versus change. I'd bet you'd find much more psychologically (and perhaps genetically?) similar between conservatives here and in Russia, despite the fact that they profess supposedly opposite nostalgias.

When discussing American politics, only American conservatism is applicable.

But of course a typical conservative doesn't look at the conservatism of their enemy and learn to moderate themselves; they see the enemy as an "other", as confirmation of their own rigid views, despite the evident similarity between the two stances.
M. Hadeishi

The American left calls for the same policies that are sinking Europe, but insists what's happening to the European economies can't happen here.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to vote Democrat.

Hitler was an American?

Stop drinking the bong water.

You want America to follow European nations' economic policies. You ignore the reality that shows such policies are unsustainable and are failing.

They're running out of Other People's Money. You simply aren't capable of understanding that.

Oh yea, the Sarah Palin syndrome... Africa (Europe) is a country...

"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats that don't know what's going on"
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

I'll bet RFK wouldn't stupidly insist that Communism is a conservative philosophy.

You know, like you do. Moron.

 

[daveman]

Isn't it humorous that Progressives keep trying to paint their failures as rightwing?

It's like Obama's campaign: There are no successes to trumpet, so they have to blame their failures on others.

 

[Peach]

Only a leftist imbecile would accuse conservatives of being communists! Here's a primer for you idiot, conservatives support limited government with maximum freedoms for the citizen.

Leftist collectivists (like you) believe the State should have the power and the individual should be subjugated to the power of that State.

Got it?

Oh, thats right! Conservatives in Russia support limited government with maximum freedoms for the citizen. Conservatives in Russia espouse all the virtues of Americana; they warmly embrace the US Constitution, can recite the Declaration of Independence by heart. They love capitalism and the 'invisible hand'

Totalitarians cannot be neatly stacked as "left" or "right". But those that were D students in high school history like to play 'PRETEND'.

 

[Bfgrn]

Only a leftist imbecile would accuse conservatives of being communists! Here's a primer for you idiot, conservatives support limited government with maximum freedoms for the citizen.

Leftist collectivists (like you) believe the State should have the power and the individual should be subjugated to the power of that State.

Got it?

Oh, thats right! Conservatives in Russia support limited government with maximum freedoms for the citizen. Conservatives in Russia espouse all the virtues of Americana; they warmly embrace the US Constitution, can recite the Declaration of Independence by heart. They love capitalism and the 'invisible hand'

Totalitarians cannot be neatly stacked as "left" or "right". But those that were D students in high school history like to play 'PRETEND'.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

The D student is unable to complete even the most basic functions like reading. When their failure is explained to them, they PRETEND they knew all along.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

 

[westwall]

Oh, thats right! Conservatives in Russia support limited government with maximum freedoms for the citizen. Conservatives in Russia espouse all the virtues of Americana; they warmly embrace the US Constitution, can recite the Declaration of Independence by heart. They love capitalism and the 'invisible hand'

Totalitarians cannot be neatly stacked as "left" or "right". But those that were D students in high school history like to play 'PRETEND'.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

The D student is unable to complete even the most basic functions like reading. When their failure is explained to them, they PRETEND they knew all along.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

All highly authoritarian figures are conservative? Really? Tell us then, what was conservative about Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot and Mugabe.

 

[Bfgrn]

Totalitarians cannot be neatly stacked as "left" or "right". But those that were D students in high school history like to play 'PRETEND'.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

The D student is unable to complete even the most basic functions like reading. When their failure is explained to them, they PRETEND they knew all along.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

All highly authoritarian figures are conservative? Really? Tell us then, what was conservative about Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot and Mugabe.

They all professed the same survival of the fittest, social Darwinism you folks spew every day. They all considered some group of people less than human, just like you folks profess every day.

There is NOTHING liberal about any of those depots.

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

"Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads."

Combat Liberalism

 

[thanatos144]

Oh, thats right! Conservatives in Russia support limited government with maximum freedoms for the citizen. Conservatives in Russia espouse all the virtues of Americana; they warmly embrace the US Constitution, can recite the Declaration of Independence by heart. They love capitalism and the 'invisible hand'

Totalitarians cannot be neatly stacked as "left" or "right". But those that were D students in high school history like to play 'PRETEND'.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

The D student is unable to complete even the most basic functions like reading. When their failure is explained to them, they PRETEND they knew all along.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

And yet the largest Totalitarian governments were all socialist...

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

a liberal will actually be so stupid as to not know that liberalism has many meanings. Where does such stupidity come from??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
John Kenneth Galbraith

John Kenneth Galbraith, an intellectual icon of the Old Left and New Left, said of the Soviets’ overtaking of Poland after World War II: “Russia should be permitted to absorb Poland, the Balkans, and the whole of Eastern Europe in order to spread the benefits of Communism” (Emphasis added).


For example, who can forget his infamous 1984 quote that the communist system in the former Soviet Union was superior to capitalism because, according to Galbraith, the communists somehow made better and more efficient use of its "manpower" than did the West? Indeed, to the very end, Galbraith was a socialist impersonating an economist

 

[Peach]

Oh, thats right! Conservatives in Russia support limited government with maximum freedoms for the citizen. Conservatives in Russia espouse all the virtues of Americana; they warmly embrace the US Constitution, can recite the Declaration of Independence by heart. They love capitalism and the 'invisible hand'

Totalitarians cannot be neatly stacked as "left" or "right". But those that were D students in high school history like to play 'PRETEND'.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

The D student is unable to complete even the most basic functions like reading. When their failure is explained to them, they PRETEND they knew all along.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

No, a stage is reached wherein "right" and "left" no longer apply, totalitarians seek not conversion to ideas, rather the elimination OF thought(.) Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mussolini are examples.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

No, a stage is reached wherein "right" and "left" no longer apply, totalitarians seek not conversion to ideas, rather the elimination OF thought(.) Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mussolini are examples.

too stupid!!! the Jeffersonian right seeks elimination of government so there is evolutionary thinking.

The history of human kind is the struggle between liberal government and freedom. Guess which side our Founders were on??

 

[Bfgrn]

Totalitarians cannot be neatly stacked as "left" or "right". But those that were D students in high school history like to play 'PRETEND'.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

The D student is unable to complete even the most basic functions like reading. When their failure is explained to them, they PRETEND they knew all along.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

And yet the largest Totalitarian governments were all socialist...

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

Hitler removed the socialists from the party in 1934, the night of the long knives. The anti-capitalist, anti-tradition sentiments often expressed by SA leaders and echoed by the restless masses of storm troopers also caused great concern to big industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had done. However, now his own storm troopers with their talk of a 'second revolution' were sounding more and more like Marxists themselves.

 

[thanatos144]

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

The D student is unable to complete even the most basic functions like reading. When their failure is explained to them, they PRETEND they knew all along.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Conservatism is based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

And yet the largest Totalitarian governments were all socialist...

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

Hitler removed the socialists from the party in 1934, the night of the long knives. The anti-capitalist, anti-tradition sentiments often expressed by SA leaders and echoed by the restless masses of storm troopers also caused great concern to big industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had done. However, now his own storm troopers with their talk of a 'second revolution' were sounding more and more like Marxists themselves.

You pathetic spin is nothing but air......They were socialists and that is what socialism looks like. It is sad you are to ignorant to see that.

 

[Bfgrn]

And yet the largest Totalitarian governments were all socialist...

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

Hitler removed the socialists from the party in 1934, the night of the long knives. The anti-capitalist, anti-tradition sentiments often expressed by SA leaders and echoed by the restless masses of storm troopers also caused great concern to big industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had done. However, now his own storm troopers with their talk of a 'second revolution' were sounding more and more like Marxists themselves.

You pathetic spin is nothing but air......They were socialists and that is what socialism looks like. It is sad you are to ignorant to see that.

I understand why you NEED it to be that way. Otherwise the truth would overwhelm your dogma driven beliefs.

True socialism looks NOTHING like that. Fascism and communism look like that. Fascism and communism are not liberal beliefs, they are conservative beliefs.

 

[thanatos144]

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

Hitler removed the socialists from the party in 1934, the night of the long knives. The anti-capitalist, anti-tradition sentiments often expressed by SA leaders and echoed by the restless masses of storm troopers also caused great concern to big industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had done. However, now his own storm troopers with their talk of a 'second revolution' were sounding more and more like Marxists themselves.

You pathetic spin is nothing but air......They were socialists and that is what socialism looks like. It is sad you are to ignorant to see that.

I understand why you NEED it to be that way. Otherwise the truth would overwhelm your dogma driven beliefs.

True socialism looks NOTHING like that. Fascism and communism look like that. Fascism and communism are not liberal beliefs, they are conservative beliefs.

fascism is the true face of socialism you fool.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Fascism and communism are not liberal beliefs, they are conservative beliefs.

too stupid by 1000%!!! Fascism, communism, liberalism, and monarchy are all based on big powerful central government.

Conservatism is 100% the exact opposite, it is about Jeffersonian freedom from big central government.

It is hard to imagine how stupid one would have to be to lack the IQ to grasp that simple point.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives

that makes perfect sense given that our liberals spied for Stalin!! Stalin was very authoritarian which will come as a surprise to you.

It is hard to comprehend how stupid a liberal is.

One does not debate a liberal, one instructs a child with a low IQ!!