Hitler and the right

Communism certainly wanted the people devoted to the cult of the leader and the cult of the worker and farmer, so political cultism is not limited to just the right.
 
Communism certainly wanted the people devoted to the cult of the leader and the cult of the worker and farmer, so political cultism is not limited to just the right.

There is nothing liberal or socialist about communism. Socialism, where the people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works never happened in Russia, China, Cuba or Cambodia. The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.
 
I was waiting for this nonsense. Bfgrn and others in the leftist cause do not get to recreate definitions and historical narratives to meet their own desired results, any more than do wack right wing extremists.

No, kiddo, the commies were not conservatives.

Communism certainly wanted the people devoted to the cult of the leader and the cult of the worker and farmer, so political cultism is not limited to just the right.

There is nothing liberal or socialist about communism. Socialism, where the people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works never happened in Russia, China, Cuba or Cambodia. The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.
 
I've seen and heard the 'liberty' conservatives are fighting for. It represents the lowest form of life. The subservient...

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Just the same stupid old slogans.

It couldn't be more right on. It is who and what you folks are. You get down on your knees and worship the opulent every single day.

Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

These ideas are not new. Indeed they were common sense until recently. Nowadays, though, most of the people who call themselves "conservatives" have little notion of what conservatism even is. They have been deceived by one of the great public relations campaigns of human history. Only by analyzing this deception will it become possible to revive democracy in the United States.

The Main Arguments of Conservatism

From the pharaohs of ancient Egypt to the self-regarding thugs of ancient Rome to the glorified warlords of medieval and absolutist Europe, in nearly every urbanized society throughout human history, there have been people who have tried to constitute themselves as an aristocracy. These people and their allies are the conservatives.

The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them.


Man you're screwed up..How do you function in the real world? That stupid post is exactly the opposite of what a conservative is. "individual liberty" is what conservatives are fighting for.... You're a nut case :cuckoo:
 
I was waiting for this nonsense. Bfgrn and others in the leftist cause do not get to recreate definitions and historical narratives to meet their own desired results, any more than do wack right wing extremists.

No, kiddo, the commies were not conservatives.

Communism certainly wanted the people devoted to the cult of the leader and the cult of the worker and farmer, so political cultism is not limited to just the right.

There is nothing liberal or socialist about communism. Socialism, where the people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works never happened in Russia, China, Cuba or Cambodia. The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

Oh yes they were Jake. You are disoriented by your parochial indoctrination. You don't know what the definition of conservatism is.
 
Just the same stupid old slogans.

It couldn't be more right on. It is who and what you folks are. You get down on your knees and worship the opulent every single day.

Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.

Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

These ideas are not new. Indeed they were common sense until recently. Nowadays, though, most of the people who call themselves "conservatives" have little notion of what conservatism even is. They have been deceived by one of the great public relations campaigns of human history. Only by analyzing this deception will it become possible to revive democracy in the United States.

The Main Arguments of Conservatism

From the pharaohs of ancient Egypt to the self-regarding thugs of ancient Rome to the glorified warlords of medieval and absolutist Europe, in nearly every urbanized society throughout human history, there have been people who have tried to constitute themselves as an aristocracy. These people and their allies are the conservatives.

The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them.


Man you're screwed up..How do you function in the real world? That stupid post is exactly the opposite of what a conservative is. "individual liberty" is what conservatives are fighting for.... You're a nut case :cuckoo:

Sure you are...your idea of 'individual liberty' is social Darwinism...survival of the richest.
 
I was waiting for this nonsense. Bfgrn and others in the leftist cause do not get to recreate definitions and historical narratives to meet their own desired results, any more than do wack right wing extremists.

No, kiddo, the commies were not conservatives.

There is nothing liberal or socialist about communism. Socialism, where the people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works never happened in Russia, China, Cuba or Cambodia. The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering.

Oh yes they were Jake. You are disoriented by your parochial indoctrination. You don't know what the definition of conservatism is.
I don't think communists are conservatives. Stalinists, probably were.
 
I was waiting for this nonsense. Bfgrn and others in the leftist cause do not get to recreate definitions and historical narratives to meet their own desired results, any more than do wack right wing extremists.

No, kiddo, the commies were not conservatives.

Oh yes they were Jake. You are disoriented by your parochial indoctrination. You don't know what the definition of conservatism is.
I don't think communists are conservatives. Stalinists, probably were.

Define conservative.

Russia is one of the most conservative countries in the world. Liberal are an endangered species in Russia. More than 300 journalists have been killed in Russia since 1993.
 
Get over yourself, Bfgrn. You don't get to redefine the traditional political and historical narrative of communism. You are nonsensical as the far right extremists who want to make fascism a left wing philosophy.

Your side of the lefties are as bad as the the far side of the righties when you try, miserably, to pull this off.

For shame.


Oh yes they were Jake. You are disoriented by your parochial indoctrination. You don't know what the definition of conservatism is.
I don't think communists are conservatives. Stalinists, probably were.

Define conservative.

Russia is one of the most conservative countries in the world. Liberal are an endangered species in Russia. More than 300 journalists have been killed in Russia since 1993.
 
You mean classical liberalism, which in today's world is neither the left nor the right.

Oh yes they were Jake. You are disoriented by your parochial indoctrination. You don't know what the definition of conservatism is.
I don't think communists are conservatives. Stalinists, probably were.

Define conservative.

Russia is one of the most conservative countries in the world. Liberal are an endangered species in Russia. More than 300 journalists have been killed in Russia since 1993.
 
Doubt that Hitler had the support of the conservative right wing?

"Hitler found his greatest support in traditionally conservative small towns."


that was when he had a very conservative message in the very very beginning. If Hitler had told the truth and said his plan was to conquer the entire world militarily and kill every jew on earth he would have had no support.

Sorry but that makes your premise absurd
 
Oh yes they were Jake. You are disoriented by your parochial indoctrination. You don't know what the definition of conservatism is.
I don't think communists are conservatives. Stalinists, probably were.

Define conservative.

Russia is one of the most conservative countries in the world. Liberal are an endangered species in Russia. More than 300 journalists have been killed in Russia since 1993.

I have never considered that Russia was a communist country. It may have pretended to be one, but it never was.

For most of recent history it has been an authoritarian rightwing dream world.
 
Edward has the story backward, as usual.

Doubt that Hitler had the support of the conservative right wing?

"Hitler found his greatest support in traditionally conservative small towns."


that was when he had a very conservative message in the very very beginning. If Hitler had told the truth and said his plan was to conquer the entire world militarily and kill every jew on earth he would have had no support.

Sorry but that makes your premise absurd
 
Edward has the story backward, as usual.

Doubt that Hitler had the support of the conservative right wing?

"Hitler found his greatest support in traditionally conservative small towns."


that was when he had a very conservative message in the very very beginning. If Hitler had told the truth and said his plan was to conquer the entire world militarily and kill every jew on earth he would have had no support.

Sorry but that makes your premise absurd
Maybe he never heard of Hitler's little book.
 

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