History Is Clear: Socialism Isn't the Cure. So Why Do Millennials Like It?

[The Purge]

Every generation have ideals they become interested in trying, like socialism - regardless of what history teaches about the outcomes. There will be a day when these younger generations are in the majority and will have it their way. Conservatives will only be able to hold it off for so long. When it comes, God help us all.

I just hope I'm not alive to see a socialist America.

of course as a GOP dupe, you conflate socialism and communism although they are totally different. Socialism everywhere but your bubble of garbage propaganda is always Democratic fair capitalism with a good safety net. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry and no one is for it unless they have a gun to their head. Dumbass dupe.

FRANCO, EVER THINK of trying to make a rational point....I do so much enjoy pointing out that a gnat has a higher IQ than you, but I believe we would all benefit of your enlightenment if you only tried to articulate your opinions and positions so that we could understand where a Communists mind is when posting!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Dude, please pull your head from your ass and stop allowing the truth to scare the piss out of you...WTF are you a Berkeley student or something?

you use the term "darkie" and then whine about being called a racist!

This is why I am on this forum, this shit is funner than fiction.

 

[Doc7505]

Multiple forms of socialism, from hard Stalinism to European redistribution, continue to fail.

Russia and China are still struggling with the legacy of genocidal communism. Eastern Europe still suffers after decades of Soviet-imposed socialist chaos.

Cuba, Nicaragua, North Korea and Venezuela are unfree, poor and failed states. Baathism -- a synonym for pan-Arabic socialism -- ruined the postwar Middle East.


(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...

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Because Work is hard and doesn’t leave enough time to smoke weed, play video games and jack off with their buddies.....and FREE is a word that the socialist educators have inbeded into their heads without explaining that NOTHING IS FREE, whether you pay for it now or down the road!

I'd like to know why you and every other conservative in the USA is such an idiot.

Most every liberal and progressive I know does NOT WANT SOCIALISM like in "venezuela" or "cuba"

we are more inclined to want socialism like in Norway and Sweden.


But every time we say that, ignorant morons like you accuse us of wanting SOCIALISM like in Venezuela!


so

why do you do that?

why do you lie?

who do you accuse us of wanting socialism like VENEZUELA even though we say we do NOT want that, even though we STATE we want socialism like NORWAY.....

?

why?

are you a lying piece of scum?

or you a ROTTEN lying piece of scum?

do you have a desire to kill people for crimes they didn't actually commit?

we do NOT want SOCIALISM like VENZUELA!

we want socialism like in Norway.

we are more inclined to want socialism like in Norway and Sweden.

Can't make it up folks, not any way.

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Except for the fact that neither Norway or Sweden Socialist, They are capitalist nations....

 

[BS Filter]

Millennials like socialism because they are ignorant of the history of socialism. It sounds appealing. It sounds fair. If these kids were educated in world history they would reject it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I don't entirely disagree with him, there are many fine black and Hispanic people in America. But if you look at crime stats, even an honest leftist loon (you might be one) has to admit the CRIME is predominantly done by blacks and Hispanics as to a proportion of population, and not by just a little. It does suggest if you or your forefathers came from 3rd world countries that your moral, ethic and principles are COMPROMISED by the culture of corruption and crime of your native country....Care to show where my observation is wrong?

Which is a greater determiner of future crime, race or economic status?

Or to put it differently...

Is a black or Hispanic millionaire more likely to commit crime than a white millionaire?

Is a black or Hispanic person that makes 100 grand a year more likely to commit crime than a white person making the same amount?

 

[Mac1958]

Yes, overall the economy is in pretty good shape.

 

[Mac1958]

The answer is clear, but the Right doesn't like it. Or, more likely, they won't understand it.

It's the fact that capitalism has been so damaged and distorted that more people are open to other ideas.

And there ya go.
.

Or maybe because the left has controlled education for 4 or so decades that their message is the only one getting across.

Sure, you can run with that.
.

Wow, talk about a casual dismissal.

Do you truly think the educational community doesn't have a leftist bent in general?

Yes, of course it does.

But it's the Right that has damaged and distorted capitalism.
.

Most of the crony capitalism happens in Blue States.

Link to that claim, please.

Aside from that, the Right has constantly pushed de-regulation, such as that which created the Meltdown; constantly pushed for lower taxes, which have exacerbated our insane wealth disparity; and allowed far too much shallow & simplistic pseudo-libertarianism to pollute its view of markets, even though low-regulation icon Alan Greenspan admitted the role it played in the Meltdown, and that he fucked up.

I know you don't agree. You asked, I answered.
.

Bare in mind martybegan Mac is a ‘financial advisor’. Would you consult with a financial professional who thought you deserved to pay more income tax and be leveraged by Father Government with more regulation?

I do have several nutter clients who get their economic "information" from talk radio, granted.

I ignore their comical mix of economic ignorance and arrogance and take care of them anyway.
.

 

[Doc7505]

We have something here that most other places don't have, and I'd hate to see it thrown away because capitalism is just too hard of an economic system to live under.

That's only part of the reason. Capitalism has been distorted by people who refuse to regulate it properly (see Greenspan, Alan, 2008 Meltdown), and people also look at those people who support it. They don't like what they see. If some nasty, hateful hardcore left winger passionately supported something, it would be less likely that you would, too. That's just fundamental human nature, and the GOP is ignoring it.

So, another system that comes along will get a closer look than it might have otherwise. And that's exactly what's happening right now.

I know you'll disagree. But at least now you have a bigger picture.
.

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There's a big difference in looking at a system and attempting to implement it against the wishes of the people.

 

[anynameyouwish]

The answer is clear, but the Right doesn't like it. Or, more likely, they won't understand it.

It's the fact that capitalism has been so damaged and distorted that more people are open to other ideas.

And there ya go.
.

Or maybe because the left has controlled education for 4 or so decades that their message is the only one getting across.

Sure, you can run with that.
.

Wow, talk about a casual dismissal.

Do you truly think the educational community doesn't have a leftist bent in general?

"Do you truly think the educational community doesn't have a leftist bent in general?"

if by "leftist bent" you mean they are no longer teaching YOUR religion or everyone's kids to hate gays, muslims, atheists, feminists, liberals and progressives then, yes, it has a LEFTIST bent. or a RATIONAL bent, or a REASONABLE bent, or a FAIR bent.....

 

[anynameyouwish]

Multiple forms of socialism, from hard Stalinism to European redistribution, continue to fail.

Russia and China are still struggling with the legacy of genocidal communism. Eastern Europe still suffers after decades of Soviet-imposed socialist chaos.

Cuba, Nicaragua, North Korea and Venezuela are unfree, poor and failed states. Baathism -- a synonym for pan-Arabic socialism -- ruined the postwar Middle East.


(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...

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Because Work is hard and doesn’t leave enough time to smoke weed, play video games and jack off with their buddies.....and FREE is a word that the socialist educators have inbeded into their heads without explaining that NOTHING IS FREE, whether you pay for it now or down the road!

I'd like to know why you and every other conservative in the USA is such an idiot.

Most every liberal and progressive I know does NOT WANT SOCIALISM like in "venezuela" or "cuba"

we are more inclined to want socialism like in Norway and Sweden.


But every time we say that, ignorant morons like you accuse us of wanting SOCIALISM like in Venezuela!


so

why do you do that?

why do you lie?

who do you accuse us of wanting socialism like VENEZUELA even though we say we do NOT want that, even though we STATE we want socialism like NORWAY.....

?

why?

are you a lying piece of scum?

or you a ROTTEN lying piece of scum?

do you have a desire to kill people for crimes they didn't actually commit?

we do NOT want SOCIALISM like VENZUELA!

we want socialism like in Norway.

we are more inclined to want socialism like in Norway and Sweden.

Can't make it up folks, not any way.

~~~~~~
Except for the fact that neither Norway or Sweden Socialist, They are capitalist nations....

"Except for the fact that neither Norway or Sweden Socialist, They are capitalist nations..."

with socialist programs like AFFORDABLE EDUCATION and AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE.

And since most liberals and progressives and democrats in the USA want to be more like NORWAY and SWEDEN then you have just verified that we do NOT want "SOCIALISM!".....we want CAPITALISM like NORWAY!

 

[martybegan]

The answer is clear, but the Right doesn't like it. Or, more likely, they won't understand it.

It's the fact that capitalism has been so damaged and distorted that more people are open to other ideas.

And there ya go.
.

Or maybe because the left has controlled education for 4 or so decades that their message is the only one getting across.

Sure, you can run with that.
.

Wow, talk about a casual dismissal.

Do you truly think the educational community doesn't have a leftist bent in general?

"Do you truly think the educational community doesn't have a leftist bent in general?"

if by "leftist bent" you mean they are no longer teaching YOUR religion or everyone's kids to hate gays, muslims, atheists, feminists, liberals and progressives then, yes, it has a LEFTIST bent. or a RATIONAL bent, or a REASONABLE bent, or a FAIR bent.....

No I mean leftist bent similar to your rant about your view of non progressive positions.

If one thinks homosexuality is immoral, is that the same as hating them in your opinion?

 

[martybegan]

Multiple forms of socialism, from hard Stalinism to European redistribution, continue to fail.

Russia and China are still struggling with the legacy of genocidal communism. Eastern Europe still suffers after decades of Soviet-imposed socialist chaos.

Cuba, Nicaragua, North Korea and Venezuela are unfree, poor and failed states. Baathism -- a synonym for pan-Arabic socialism -- ruined the postwar Middle East.


(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...

-----------'

Because Work is hard and doesn’t leave enough time to smoke weed, play video games and jack off with their buddies.....and FREE is a word that the socialist educators have inbeded into their heads without explaining that NOTHING IS FREE, whether you pay for it now or down the road!

I'd like to know why you and every other conservative in the USA is such an idiot.

Most every liberal and progressive I know does NOT WANT SOCIALISM like in "venezuela" or "cuba"

we are more inclined to want socialism like in Norway and Sweden.


But every time we say that, ignorant morons like you accuse us of wanting SOCIALISM like in Venezuela!


so

why do you do that?

why do you lie?

who do you accuse us of wanting socialism like VENEZUELA even though we say we do NOT want that, even though we STATE we want socialism like NORWAY.....

?

why?

are you a lying piece of scum?

or you a ROTTEN lying piece of scum?

do you have a desire to kill people for crimes they didn't actually commit?

we do NOT want SOCIALISM like VENZUELA!

we want socialism like in Norway.

we are more inclined to want socialism like in Norway and Sweden.

Can't make it up folks, not any way.

~~~~~~
Except for the fact that neither Norway or Sweden Socialist, They are capitalist nations....

"Except for the fact that neither Norway or Sweden Socialist, They are capitalist nations..."

with socialist programs like AFFORDABLE EDUCATION and AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE.

And since most liberals and progressives and democrats in the USA want to be more like NORWAY and SWEDEN then you have just verified that we do NOT want "SOCIALISM!".....we want CAPITALISM like NORWAY!

What they really resemble is the natural evolution of the Bismark "Welfare State" concept.

 

[alang1216]

Multiple forms of socialism, from hard Stalinism to European redistribution, continue to fail.

I believe the Nordic Europeans are very happy with their brand of socialism.

Haha..”brand of socialism”....WTF?
Fucking hilarious, I gotta hand it to you...you people really work hard to fabricate new angles to justify your begging for free shit. You’ll go as far as pretending there are multiple definitions for “socialism”. Good ole Mac1958 tries to sell that bullshit constantly.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun

1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

The Purge and I recognize that there is a difference between Norway and China.

Multiple forms of socialism, from hard Stalinism to European redistribution, continue to fail.

I believe the Nordic Europeans are very happy with their brand of socialism.

Please be specific as to country and will check to see if they have a Muslim problem....all welcome under socialism?

I think you overestimate the influence of their "Muslim problem":

The 2019 report features the happiness score averaged over the years 2016-2018. As per the 2019 Happiness Index, Finland is the happiest country in the world. Denmark, Norway, Iceland and Netherlands hold the next top positions. The report was published on 20 March 2019 by UN. The full report can be read at 2019 Report​

FYI, the US is 19th.

Well. Polls often lie as we see since our 2016 elections and then there is this for a start....

Sweden rape: Most convicted attackers foreign-born, says TV - BBC News
Aug 22, 2018 · Swedish national TV says 58% of men convicted of rape in the past ... Immigration and crime are major issues in Sweden's general

Yet those Swedes are still happy. The fools.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Multiple forms of socialism, from hard Stalinism to European redistribution, continue to fail.

I believe the Nordic Europeans are very happy with their brand of socialism.

Haha..”brand of socialism”....WTF?
Fucking hilarious, I gotta hand it to you...you people really work hard to fabricate new angles to justify your begging for free shit. You’ll go as far as pretending there are multiple definitions for “socialism”. Good ole Mac1958 tries to sell that bullshit constantly.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun

1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

I see.


- YOU accuse US of wanting "SOCIALISM" (in the extreme sense of the word)
- we explain to you that we don't want SOCIALISM like venezuela or china
- we then say "we like limited socialism like in Norway, where they have a MIX of capitalism and some socialist programs (cheap/affordable health care and education)
- you then shout "THERE IS NO SUCH THING as LIMITED SOCIALISM!"

even though we can all see Norway and Sweden and Denmark on our globes....

you are truly insane

 

[alang1216]

Multiple forms of socialism, from hard Stalinism to European redistribution, continue to fail.

I believe the Nordic Europeans are very happy with their brand of socialism.

Haha..”brand of socialism”....WTF?
Fucking hilarious, I gotta hand it to you...you people really work hard to fabricate new angles to justify your begging for free shit. You’ll go as far as pretending there are multiple definitions for “socialism”. Good ole Mac1958 tries to sell that bullshit constantly.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun

1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

I see.


- YOU accuse US of wanting "SOCIALISM" (in the extreme sense of the word)
- we explain to you that we don't want SOCIALISM like venezuela or china
- we then say "we like limited socialism like in Norway, where they have a MIX of capitalism and some socialist programs (cheap/affordable health care and education)
- you then shout "THERE IS NO SUCH THING as LIMITED SOCIALISM!"

even though we can all see Norway and Sweden and Denmark on our globes....

you are truly insane

Not insane, just blinded by ideology.

 

[The Purge]

I don't entirely disagree with him, there are many fine black and Hispanic people in America. But if you look at crime stats, even an honest leftist loon (you might be one) has to admit the CRIME is predominantly done by blacks and Hispanics as to a proportion of population, and not by just a little. It does suggest if you or your forefathers came from 3rd world countries that your moral, ethic and principles are COMPROMISED by the culture of corruption and crime of your native country....Care to show where my observation is wrong?

Which is a greater determiner of future crime, race or economic status?

Or to put it differently...

Is a black or Hispanic millionaire more likely to commit crime than a white millionaire?

Is a black or Hispanic person that makes 100 grand a year more likely to commit crime than a white person making the same amount?

With unemployment dropping to new lows, shouldn't black and Hispanics ACT the way most poor whites didc hstorically...WORK HARD to better yourself instead of turning to crime.....and how many WHITE GANGS are there that's purpose is to act badly and criminally?... I remember the 50's and 60's when gang violence was extremely low . But when the police were faced with it. They took appropriate action....funny, back then it was crime and NOT RACE that drove that effort.....seems as more REGRESSIVE THOUGHT was brought into the conversation, and the left realized that promoting the slowly disappearing racial divide into a talking point started in the early 60's into a propaganda point that the MSM jumped on would promote their political gain....after all victim status was a great way to increase the left voter base....

 

[Doc7505]

Multiple forms of socialism, from hard Stalinism to European redistribution, continue to fail.

Russia and China are still struggling with the legacy of genocidal communism. Eastern Europe still suffers after decades of Soviet-imposed socialist chaos.

Cuba, Nicaragua, North Korea and Venezuela are unfree, poor and failed states. Baathism -- a synonym for pan-Arabic socialism -- ruined the postwar Middle East.


(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...

-----------'

Because Work is hard and doesn’t leave enough time to smoke weed, play video games and jack off with their buddies.....and FREE is a word that the socialist educators have inbeded into their heads without explaining that NOTHING IS FREE, whether you pay for it now or down the road!

I'd like to know why you and every other conservative in the USA is such an idiot.

Most every liberal and progressive I know does NOT WANT SOCIALISM like in "venezuela" or "cuba"

we are more inclined to want socialism like in Norway and Sweden.


But every time we say that, ignorant morons like you accuse us of wanting SOCIALISM like in Venezuela!


so

why do you do that?

why do you lie?

who do you accuse us of wanting socialism like VENEZUELA even though we say we do NOT want that, even though we STATE we want socialism like NORWAY.....

?

why?

are you a lying piece of scum?

or you a ROTTEN lying piece of scum?

do you have a desire to kill people for crimes they didn't actually commit?

we do NOT want SOCIALISM like VENZUELA!

we want socialism like in Norway.

we are more inclined to want socialism like in Norway and Sweden.

Can't make it up folks, not any way.

~~~~~~
Except for the fact that neither Norway or Sweden Socialist, They are capitalist nations....

"Except for the fact that neither Norway or Sweden Socialist, They are capitalist nations..."

with socialist programs like AFFORDABLE EDUCATION and AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE.

And since most liberals and progressives and democrats in the USA want to be more like NORWAY and SWEDEN then you have just verified that we do NOT want "SOCIALISM!".....we want CAPITALISM like NORWAY!

~~~~~~
Indeed. we do have similar programs. Ever hear of PEL, ROTC, Medicare, Medicaid and Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act?

24 States That Offer Tuition-Free College Programs
https://www.usnews.com/education/be...se-states-offer-tuition-free-college-programs

 

[BrokeLoser]

Or maybe because the left has controlled education for 4 or so decades that their message is the only one getting across.

Sure, you can run with that.
.

Wow, talk about a casual dismissal.

Do you truly think the educational community doesn't have a leftist bent in general?

Yes, of course it does.

But it's the Right that has damaged and distorted capitalism.
.

Most of the crony capitalism happens in Blue States.

Link to that claim, please.

Aside from that, the Right has constantly pushed de-regulation, such as that which created the Meltdown; constantly pushed for lower taxes, which have exacerbated our insane wealth disparity; and allowed far too much shallow & simplistic pseudo-libertarianism to pollute its view of markets, even though low-regulation icon Alan Greenspan admitted the role it played in the Meltdown, and that he fucked up.

I know you don't agree. You asked, I answered.
.

Bare in mind martybegan Mac is a ‘financial advisor’. Would you consult with a financial professional who thought you deserved to pay more income tax and be leveraged by Father Government with more regulation?

I do have several nutter clients who get their economic "information" from talk radio, granted.

I ignore their comical mix of economic ignorance and arrogance and take care of them anyway.
.

Mac, I have you pegged...you are in fact a financial advisor...you advise Guadalupe and ShaQuita on how to maximize their EBT card usage and how to fuck real Americans over just a little bit more...that actually aligns with the tone of your posts.

 

[Mac1958]

Sure, you can run with that.
.

Wow, talk about a casual dismissal.

Do you truly think the educational community doesn't have a leftist bent in general?

Yes, of course it does.

But it's the Right that has damaged and distorted capitalism.
.

Most of the crony capitalism happens in Blue States.

Link to that claim, please.

Aside from that, the Right has constantly pushed de-regulation, such as that which created the Meltdown; constantly pushed for lower taxes, which have exacerbated our insane wealth disparity; and allowed far too much shallow & simplistic pseudo-libertarianism to pollute its view of markets, even though low-regulation icon Alan Greenspan admitted the role it played in the Meltdown, and that he fucked up.

I know you don't agree. You asked, I answered.
.

Bare in mind martybegan Mac is a ‘financial advisor’. Would you consult with a financial professional who thought you deserved to pay more income tax and be leveraged by Father Government with more regulation?

I do have several nutter clients who get their economic "information" from talk radio, granted.

I ignore their comical mix of economic ignorance and arrogance and take care of them anyway.
.

Mac, I have you pegged...you are in fact a financial advisor...you advise Guadalupe and ShaQuita on how to maximize their EBT card usage and how to fuck real Americans over just a little bit more...that actually aligns with your posts.

You're just too smart for me!
.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Wow, talk about a casual dismissal.

Do you truly think the educational community doesn't have a leftist bent in general?

Yes, of course it does.

But it's the Right that has damaged and distorted capitalism.
.

Most of the crony capitalism happens in Blue States.

Link to that claim, please.

Aside from that, the Right has constantly pushed de-regulation, such as that which created the Meltdown; constantly pushed for lower taxes, which have exacerbated our insane wealth disparity; and allowed far too much shallow & simplistic pseudo-libertarianism to pollute its view of markets, even though low-regulation icon Alan Greenspan admitted the role it played in the Meltdown, and that he fucked up.

I know you don't agree. You asked, I answered.
.

Bare in mind martybegan Mac is a ‘financial advisor’. Would you consult with a financial professional who thought you deserved to pay more income tax and be leveraged by Father Government with more regulation?

I do have several nutter clients who get their economic "information" from talk radio, granted.

I ignore their comical mix of economic ignorance and arrogance and take care of them anyway.
.

Mac, I have you pegged...you are in fact a financial advisor...you advise Guadalupe and ShaQuita on how to maximize their EBT card usage and how to fuck real Americans over just a little bit more...that actually aligns with your posts.

You're just too smart for me!
.

He is just too smart for all of us...nothing yells superior intelligence more than calling people "darkies".