Hillary Clinton: Qualifications to be President

[rightwinger]

Hillary Rodham Clinton
Facts, information and accomplishments about Hillary Rodham Clinton

Hillary Rodham Clinton: 67th United States Secretary of State, United States Senator, First Lady of the United States and First Lady of Arkansas. She is well-known across the globe as an American politician. Hillary Rodham Clinton was the Secretary of State for the US from 2009-2013. She served under President Barack Obama. She went to Wellesley College and was a commencement speaker which is where she first attracted national attention.

Twice, Hillary Clinton has been listed in the list of the100 most influential American lawyers. When she was the First lady of Arkansas while her husband served as the governor she was successful in leading the task force that reformed the education system in Arkansas. During her time as First Lady the Whitewater controversy and the Lewinski scandal were highly publicized in the media. The public's opinion of her increased sizably during the Lewinski scandal and many speculated it was because of the poise with which she carried herself during the time.

Hillary Clinton is regarded as the First Lady that has been most empowered, except Eleanor Roosevelt. She has served two terms as a US Senator and ran for the presidential office. The American general public considers her a liberal. She has worked in favor of universal health care. No other First ladies held a post-graduate degree before Hillary Rodham Clinton. Bill was heard during his campaign to say he was providing, 'two for one price,' in reference to the work that his wife would be doing alongside him. She has been a strong advocate for a revamping of society morally, stating we were suffering from a 'sleeping sickness of the soul.' She and Bill Clinton have one daughter, Chelsea.

Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments

This is what they list as her accomplishments.....

"She went to Wellesley College and was a commencement speaker which is where she first attracted national attention." - See more at: Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments

"When she was the First lady of Arkansas while her husband served as the governor she was successful in leading the task force that reformed the education system in Arkansas." - See more at: Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments


That's it. Everything else is a list of jobs she got because her husband was POTUS once upon a time.

That's really the best you can come up with?

I know it is the current rightwing talking point, but it is far from the truth

Hillary was ELECTED twice to the Senate from NY. It was her name on the ballot
Hillary was named to be Secretary of State not because of who her husband was but because of how well she had done in the Presidential primaries

 

[westwall]

Hillary Rodham Clinton
Facts, information and accomplishments about Hillary Rodham Clinton

Hillary Rodham Clinton: 67th United States Secretary of State, United States Senator, First Lady of the United States and First Lady of Arkansas. She is well-known across the globe as an American politician. Hillary Rodham Clinton was the Secretary of State for the US from 2009-2013. She served under President Barack Obama. She went to Wellesley College and was a commencement speaker which is where she first attracted national attention.

Twice, Hillary Clinton has been listed in the list of the100 most influential American lawyers. When she was the First lady of Arkansas while her husband served as the governor she was successful in leading the task force that reformed the education system in Arkansas. During her time as First Lady the Whitewater controversy and the Lewinski scandal were highly publicized in the media. The public's opinion of her increased sizably during the Lewinski scandal and many speculated it was because of the poise with which she carried herself during the time.

Hillary Clinton is regarded as the First Lady that has been most empowered, except Eleanor Roosevelt. She has served two terms as a US Senator and ran for the presidential office. The American general public considers her a liberal. She has worked in favor of universal health care. No other First ladies held a post-graduate degree before Hillary Rodham Clinton. Bill was heard during his campaign to say he was providing, 'two for one price,' in reference to the work that his wife would be doing alongside him. She has been a strong advocate for a revamping of society morally, stating we were suffering from a 'sleeping sickness of the soul.' She and Bill Clinton have one daughter, Chelsea.

Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments

This is what they list as her accomplishments.....

"She went to Wellesley College and was a commencement speaker which is where she first attracted national attention." - See more at: Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments

"When she was the First lady of Arkansas while her husband served as the governor she was successful in leading the task force that reformed the education system in Arkansas." - See more at: Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments


That's it. Everything else is a list of jobs she got because her husband was POTUS once upon a time.

That's really the best you can come up with?

I know it is the current rightwing talking point, but it is far from the truth

Hillary was ELECTED twice to the Senate from NY. It was her name on the ballot
Hillary was named to be Secretary of State not because of who her husband was but because of how well she had done in the Presidential primaries

She was elected because her husband had been Pres, that's it. The Democrat machine got behind her because they wanted her in that position to help them. When she was there what the hell did she do? C'mon mr. fluffer, there's lots of Senators out there. What the hell did she do in 12 years? Name the bills she co-authored. Name the committee's she sat on and the influential decisions she helped craft. C'mon. Show us something other than her despotism derived jobs.

 

[rightwinger]

Hillary Rodham Clinton
Facts, information and accomplishments about Hillary Rodham Clinton

Hillary Rodham Clinton: 67th United States Secretary of State, United States Senator, First Lady of the United States and First Lady of Arkansas. She is well-known across the globe as an American politician. Hillary Rodham Clinton was the Secretary of State for the US from 2009-2013. She served under President Barack Obama. She went to Wellesley College and was a commencement speaker which is where she first attracted national attention.

Twice, Hillary Clinton has been listed in the list of the100 most influential American lawyers. When she was the First lady of Arkansas while her husband served as the governor she was successful in leading the task force that reformed the education system in Arkansas. During her time as First Lady the Whitewater controversy and the Lewinski scandal were highly publicized in the media. The public's opinion of her increased sizably during the Lewinski scandal and many speculated it was because of the poise with which she carried herself during the time.

Hillary Clinton is regarded as the First Lady that has been most empowered, except Eleanor Roosevelt. She has served two terms as a US Senator and ran for the presidential office. The American general public considers her a liberal. She has worked in favor of universal health care. No other First ladies held a post-graduate degree before Hillary Rodham Clinton. Bill was heard during his campaign to say he was providing, 'two for one price,' in reference to the work that his wife would be doing alongside him. She has been a strong advocate for a revamping of society morally, stating we were suffering from a 'sleeping sickness of the soul.' She and Bill Clinton have one daughter, Chelsea.

Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments

This is what they list as her accomplishments.....

"She went to Wellesley College and was a commencement speaker which is where she first attracted national attention." - See more at: Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments

"When she was the First lady of Arkansas while her husband served as the governor she was successful in leading the task force that reformed the education system in Arkansas." - See more at: Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments


That's it. Everything else is a list of jobs she got because her husband was POTUS once upon a time.

That's really the best you can come up with?

I know it is the current rightwing talking point, but it is far from the truth

Hillary was ELECTED twice to the Senate from NY. It was her name on the ballot
Hillary was named to be Secretary of State not because of who her husband was but because of how well she had done in the Presidential primaries

She was elected because her husband had been Pres, that's it. The Democrat machine got behind her because they wanted her in that position to help them. When she was there what the hell did she do? C'mon mr. fluffer, there's lots of Senators out there. What the hell did she do in 12 years? Name the bills she co-authored. Name the committee's she sat on and the influential decisions she helped craft. C'mon. Show us something other than her despotism derived jobs.

Can we discuss how George W Bush got elected then?

 

[westwall]

Hillary Rodham Clinton
Facts, information and accomplishments about Hillary Rodham Clinton

Hillary Rodham Clinton: 67th United States Secretary of State, United States Senator, First Lady of the United States and First Lady of Arkansas. She is well-known across the globe as an American politician. Hillary Rodham Clinton was the Secretary of State for the US from 2009-2013. She served under President Barack Obama. She went to Wellesley College and was a commencement speaker which is where she first attracted national attention.

Twice, Hillary Clinton has been listed in the list of the100 most influential American lawyers. When she was the First lady of Arkansas while her husband served as the governor she was successful in leading the task force that reformed the education system in Arkansas. During her time as First Lady the Whitewater controversy and the Lewinski scandal were highly publicized in the media. The public's opinion of her increased sizably during the Lewinski scandal and many speculated it was because of the poise with which she carried herself during the time.

Hillary Clinton is regarded as the First Lady that has been most empowered, except Eleanor Roosevelt. She has served two terms as a US Senator and ran for the presidential office. The American general public considers her a liberal. She has worked in favor of universal health care. No other First ladies held a post-graduate degree before Hillary Rodham Clinton. Bill was heard during his campaign to say he was providing, 'two for one price,' in reference to the work that his wife would be doing alongside him. She has been a strong advocate for a revamping of society morally, stating we were suffering from a 'sleeping sickness of the soul.' She and Bill Clinton have one daughter, Chelsea.

Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments

This is what they list as her accomplishments.....

"She went to Wellesley College and was a commencement speaker which is where she first attracted national attention." - See more at: Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments

"When she was the First lady of Arkansas while her husband served as the governor she was successful in leading the task force that reformed the education system in Arkansas." - See more at: Hillary Clinton Facts Summary Accomplishments


That's it. Everything else is a list of jobs she got because her husband was POTUS once upon a time.

That's really the best you can come up with?

I know it is the current rightwing talking point, but it is far from the truth

Hillary was ELECTED twice to the Senate from NY. It was her name on the ballot
Hillary was named to be Secretary of State not because of who her husband was but because of how well she had done in the Presidential primaries

She was elected because her husband had been Pres, that's it. The Democrat machine got behind her because they wanted her in that position to help them. When she was there what the hell did she do? C'mon mr. fluffer, there's lots of Senators out there. What the hell did she do in 12 years? Name the bills she co-authored. Name the committee's she sat on and the influential decisions she helped craft. C'mon. Show us something other than her despotism derived jobs.

Can we discuss how George W Bush got elected then?

Sure thing. In a thread devoted to him. He was a failure too, just so you know where I stand on him.

 

[Judicial review]

How is being a door mat an accomplishment? Do you even know what the word means?

Hillarys exposure to Washington and global politics during her time as First Lady exceeds any current Republican.

You are welcome to try to prove otherwise

Then the Pubs are just gonna have to change the 'experience' benchmarks, from 'exposure to Washington', over to 'governance'.

At least Bubba Clinton had done a stint as a Governor of a State, before we gave him the keys to the White House.

We let a rookie junior first-term Senator from Illinois into the White House, and he managed to screw the pooch, and lose both houses of Congress.

There are, indeed, examples of Presidential success stories, under circumstances wherein the candidate had not governed, first.

But, after this last Presidency, I think the Nation is better off looking for someone who has actually governed, albeit on a State level, rather than giving the job to another political hack and manufactured celebrity, with nothing more than some time in the Senate, as credentials.

You can serve on a Leadership Committee, then go on to actually LEAD, and be successful, but you have a MUCH better CHANCE of succeeding, if you have already cut your teeth on another sizable Leadership opportunity (State governorship), and made most of your mistakes on somebody else's nickle, before trying to play The Palace.

Or so logic would seem to indicate, as a preferred pathway to the Presidency.

Experience in the office you seek beats being a governor

Hillary had eight years in the Whitehouse followed by four years as Secretary of State. She understands the job she is seeking

A governor understands internal politics of his state but has no understanding of international politics, Washington politics or the internal workings of the executive branch

Being a First Lady is not a time-tested and viable pathway to the Presidency.

A governor understands how to intertwine the work of an Executive Branch with a Legislative Branch and a Judicial Branch, albeit on the State level.

It's why so many Governors have made it to the White House, and why no First Ladies have made it to the White House.

Even merely within the timeframe from the passage of the 19th... the track record speaks for itself.

Never been done before. Eleanor Roosevelt had similar executive office experience as First Lady. But combine those eight years experience with eight years in the Senate and four as Secretary of State and you have executive level experience that no Governor can match

Her only major contribution in the senate was Hilarycare and Gingrich destroyed that thank fucking God.

 

[Judicial review]

Hillarys exposure to Washington and global politics during her time as First Lady exceeds any current Republican.

You are welcome to try to prove otherwise

Then the Pubs are just gonna have to change the 'experience' benchmarks, from 'exposure to Washington', over to 'governance'.

At least Bubba Clinton had done a stint as a Governor of a State, before we gave him the keys to the White House.

We let a rookie junior first-term Senator from Illinois into the White House, and he managed to screw the pooch, and lose both houses of Congress.

There are, indeed, examples of Presidential success stories, under circumstances wherein the candidate had not governed, first.

But, after this last Presidency, I think the Nation is better off looking for someone who has actually governed, albeit on a State level, rather than giving the job to another political hack and manufactured celebrity, with nothing more than some time in the Senate, as credentials.

You can serve on a Leadership Committee, then go on to actually LEAD, and be successful, but you have a MUCH better CHANCE of succeeding, if you have already cut your teeth on another sizable Leadership opportunity (State governorship), and made most of your mistakes on somebody else's nickle, before trying to play The Palace.

Or so logic would seem to indicate, as a preferred pathway to the Presidency.

Experience in the office you seek beats being a governor

Hillary had eight years in the Whitehouse followed by four years as Secretary of State. She understands the job she is seeking

A governor understands internal politics of his state but has no understanding of international politics, Washington politics or the internal workings of the executive branch

Being a First Lady is not a time-tested and viable pathway to the Presidency.

A governor understands how to intertwine the work of an Executive Branch with a Legislative Branch and a Judicial Branch, albeit on the State level.

It's why so many Governors have made it to the White House, and why no First Ladies have made it to the White House.

Even merely within the timeframe from the passage of the 19th... the track record speaks for itself.

Never been done before. Eleanor Roosevelt had similar executive office experience as First Lady. But combine those eight years experience with eight years in the Senate and four as Secretary of State and you have executive level experience that no Governor can match

Her only major contribution in the senate was Hilarycare and Gingrich destroyed that thank fucking God.

If that's the path you are going to go with her and all she has then Kasich and Gingrich would destroy her.

 

[Lakhota]

The Clintons deserve 8 more years in the White House after NaziCon witch hunters tried to burn them at the stake when they previously resided there. Go Hillary!!!!!

 

[Statistikhengst]

Being married to a governor or president isn't a qualification. She was a senator without accomplishment there. Hillary is generally regarded as possibly the worst secretary of state that we ever had. In her own words the disastrous reset with Russia was her best work.

Of course being First Lady is an accomplishment, especially one given the access that Hillary was. She met with world leaders, cabinet members, congressional leaders and dealt with the POTUS on a day to day basis.

Does any Republican have knowledge of the day to day workings of the White House?

Just that gives her more qualifications than any current Republican

How is being a door mat an accomplishment? Do you even know what the word means?

Hillarys exposure to Washington and global politics during her time as First Lady exceeds any current Republican.

You are welcome to try to prove otherwise

The White House cleaning staff has the same exposure

Silliness. No, it does not.

 

[westwall]

Being married to a governor or president isn't a qualification. She was a senator without accomplishment there. Hillary is generally regarded as possibly the worst secretary of state that we ever had. In her own words the disastrous reset with Russia was her best work.

Of course being First Lady is an accomplishment, especially one given the access that Hillary was. She met with world leaders, cabinet members, congressional leaders and dealt with the POTUS on a day to day basis.

Does any Republican have knowledge of the day to day workings of the White House?

Just that gives her more qualifications than any current Republican

How is being a door mat an accomplishment? Do you even know what the word means?

Hillarys exposure to Washington and global politics during her time as First Lady exceeds any current Republican.

You are welcome to try to prove otherwise

The White House cleaning staff has the same exposure

Silliness. No, it does not.

You're correct. Many of the cleaning staff are far better qualified than Hillary. Thank you for making the so clear.

 

[Judicial review]

The Clintons deserve 8 more years in the White House after NaziCon witch hunters tried to burn them at the stake when they previously resided there. Go Hillary!!!!!

Fuck her. (She hasn't been laid in 20 years.) We all know why...

 

[Kondor3]

How is being a door mat an accomplishment? Do you even know what the word means?

Hillarys exposure to Washington and global politics during her time as First Lady exceeds any current Republican.

You are welcome to try to prove otherwise

Then the Pubs are just gonna have to change the 'experience' benchmarks, from 'exposure to Washington', over to 'governance'.

At least Bubba Clinton had done a stint as a Governor of a State, before we gave him the keys to the White House.

We let a rookie junior first-term Senator from Illinois into the White House, and he managed to screw the pooch, and lose both houses of Congress.

There are, indeed, examples of Presidential success stories, under circumstances wherein the candidate had not governed, first.

But, after this last Presidency, I think the Nation is better off looking for someone who has actually governed, albeit on a State level, rather than giving the job to another political hack and manufactured celebrity, with nothing more than some time in the Senate, as credentials.

You can serve on a Leadership Committee, then go on to actually LEAD, and be successful, but you have a MUCH better CHANCE of succeeding, if you have already cut your teeth on another sizable Leadership opportunity (State governorship), and made most of your mistakes on somebody else's nickle, before trying to play The Palace.

Or so logic would seem to indicate, as a preferred pathway to the Presidency.

Experience in the office you seek beats being a governor

Hillary had eight years in the Whitehouse followed by four years as Secretary of State. She understands the job she is seeking

A governor understands internal politics of his state but has no understanding of international politics, Washington politics or the internal workings of the executive branch

Being a First Lady is not a time-tested and viable pathway to the Presidency.

A governor understands how to intertwine the work of an Executive Branch with a Legislative Branch and a Judicial Branch, albeit on the State level.

It's why so many Governors have made it to the White House, and why no First Ladies have made it to the White House.

Even merely within the timeframe from the passage of the 19th... the track record speaks for itself.

Never been done before. Eleanor Roosevelt had similar executive office experience as First Lady. But combine those eight years experience with eight years in the Senate and four as Secretary of State and you have executive level experience that no Governor can match

You and I are (apparently) irreconcilable, in our opinions of 'exectuve-level experience' versus 'governing experience'.

I will happily concede that Eleanor Roosevelt, Edith Wilson, and such, were 'Presidential Partners' of the highest caliber. and I'll even concede that Hillary Clinton might arguably be included in that distinguished company, however, I will also stick to my guns, to the extent where I hold that "Observer-caliber" experience is inferior to "Governing-caliber" experience.

A governor has already had front-line experience in balancing a viable Executive alongside the Legislative and Judicial, first hand. An observer lacks that experience.

A legislator (such as a Senator) has merely participated in lawmaking and oversight on a group or committee level, and is not making 'The Buck Stops Here' -caliber decisions as the sole 'Deciderer'.

A department head (such as an SoS) can, indeed, be exposed to a myriad of high-level concepts and goals and constraints - such as those seen within the domain of Foreign Policy - and is, indeed, charged with making mid-range decisions in pursuit of higher-range ones decided by others - but the running of such a department leans heavily upon the entrenched bureaucrats of that department and custom and usage and preexisting strategies and goals and plans and can be run in a rather autocratic fashion, with only a macro-level accountability to the Legislative branch of government.

A governor, on the other hand, has done it all, albeit on a State-level scale - the most important of which, running a 'polity' (a State) - running a 'collective' - with the consent of the governed and alongside a watchful legislature and judiciary: the power of life and death over capital cases, State of the Polity addresses, budgeting, expenditures, collaboration with the Legislature, dealing with the 'mini-governors' of his polity (mayors), soliciting and disbursing Federal tax monies in addition to revenues raised within his own borders, proposing and disposing of policy and strategies, enticing business, taming civil unrest and popular dissatisfaction, tending to Constitutional issues with the courts, etc.

You know.. the kind of things that a Governor (President) of ALL the States does - X (times) 50.

Our 50 governor's mansions are the Minor Leagues from which we draw many of our All-Stars.

Some 50 different Presidential Training Boot Camps - a facility that the American People oftentimes take advantage of.

Given two opposing candidates of good repute and service and vision and prospects, personally, I would choose the former Governor, nearly every time.

I do not see sufficient talent nor vision nor experience on Hillary's part to make this one of those occasional Exceptions - but that's just me.

 

[westwall]

The Clintons deserve 8 more years in the White House after NaziCon witch hunters tried to burn them at the stake when they previously resided there. Go Hillary!!!!!

"Deserve"? Are you insane? No one ":deserves" the fucking office. They have to EARN the damned thing, and then they are supposed to SERVE THE PEOPLE! What the hell do you use for brains?

 

[rightwinger]

Of course being First Lady is an accomplishment, especially one given the access that Hillary was. She met with world leaders, cabinet members, congressional leaders and dealt with the POTUS on a day to day basis.

Does any Republican have knowledge of the day to day workings of the White House?

Just that gives her more qualifications than any current Republican

How is being a door mat an accomplishment? Do you even know what the word means?

Hillarys exposure to Washington and global politics during her time as First Lady exceeds any current Republican.

You are welcome to try to prove otherwise

The White House cleaning staff has the same exposure

Silliness. No, it does not.

You're correct. Many of the cleaning staff are far better qualified than Hillary. Thank you for making the so clear.

Yes we can all play that silly game and claim Republicans are not more qualified than your friendly neighborhood bag lady or drug dealer

Fun isn't it?

 

[HenryBHough]

According to one Democrat theology it's Hillary's turn. Her FAIR turn.

But, alas she's an (alleged?) woman so gets no turn.

Poor conflicted bastards! Let's weep for them......when we get thru laughing at them.

 

[Judicial review]

Hilary wont win because she's a woman. Problem solved and we can all go home. At least Palin was hot like a milf. Hilary has nothing going for her. In fact, she has a lot going against her. Hell Condi rice was hotter and she was black!

 

[rightwinger]

Hillarys exposure to Washington and global politics during her time as First Lady exceeds any current Republican.

You are welcome to try to prove otherwise

Then the Pubs are just gonna have to change the 'experience' benchmarks, from 'exposure to Washington', over to 'governance'.

At least Bubba Clinton had done a stint as a Governor of a State, before we gave him the keys to the White House.

We let a rookie junior first-term Senator from Illinois into the White House, and he managed to screw the pooch, and lose both houses of Congress.

There are, indeed, examples of Presidential success stories, under circumstances wherein the candidate had not governed, first.

But, after this last Presidency, I think the Nation is better off looking for someone who has actually governed, albeit on a State level, rather than giving the job to another political hack and manufactured celebrity, with nothing more than some time in the Senate, as credentials.

You can serve on a Leadership Committee, then go on to actually LEAD, and be successful, but you have a MUCH better CHANCE of succeeding, if you have already cut your teeth on another sizable Leadership opportunity (State governorship), and made most of your mistakes on somebody else's nickle, before trying to play The Palace.

Or so logic would seem to indicate, as a preferred pathway to the Presidency.

Experience in the office you seek beats being a governor

Hillary had eight years in the Whitehouse followed by four years as Secretary of State. She understands the job she is seeking

A governor understands internal politics of his state but has no understanding of international politics, Washington politics or the internal workings of the executive branch

Being a First Lady is not a time-tested and viable pathway to the Presidency.

A governor understands how to intertwine the work of an Executive Branch with a Legislative Branch and a Judicial Branch, albeit on the State level.

It's why so many Governors have made it to the White House, and why no First Ladies have made it to the White House.

Even merely within the timeframe from the passage of the 19th... the track record speaks for itself.

Never been done before. Eleanor Roosevelt had similar executive office experience as First Lady. But combine those eight years experience with eight years in the Senate and four as Secretary of State and you have executive level experience that no Governor can match

You and I are (apparently) irreconcilable, in our opinions of 'exectuve-level experience' versus 'governing experience'.

I will happily concede that Eleanor Roosevelt, Edith Wilson, and such, were 'Presidential Partners' of the highest caliber. and I'll even concede that Hillary Clinton might arguably be included in that distinguished company, however, I will also stick to my guns, to the extent where I hold that "Observer-caliber" experience is inferior to "Governing-caliber" experience.

A governor has already had front-line experience in balancing a viable Executive alongside the Legislative and Judicial, first hand. An observer lacks that experience.

A legislator (such as a Senator) has merely participated in lawmaking and oversight on a group or committee level, and is not making 'The Buck Stops Here' -caliber decisions as the sole 'Deciderer'.

A department head (such as an SoS) can, indeed, be exposed to a myriad of high-level concepts and goals and constraints - such as those seen within the domain of Foreign Policy - and is, indeed, charged with making mid-range decisions in pursuit of higher-range ones decided by others - but the running of such a department leans heavily upon the entrenched bureaucrats of that department and custom and usage and preexisting strategies and goals and plans and can be run in a rather autocratic fashion, with only a macro-level accountability to the Legislative branch of government.

A governor, on the other hand, has done it all, albeit on a State-level scale - the most important of which, running a 'polity' (a State) - running a 'collective' - with the consent of the governed and alongside a watchful legislature and judiciary: the power of life and death over capital cases, State of the Polity addresses, budgeting, expenditures, collaboration with the Legislature, dealing with the 'mini-governors' of his polity (mayors), soliciting and disbursing Federal tax monies in addition to revenues raised within his own borders, proposing and disposing of policy and strategies, enticing business, taming civil unrest and popular dissatisfaction, tending to Constitutional issues with the courts, etc.

You know.. the kind of things that a Governor (President) of ALL the States does - X (times) 50.

Our 50 governor's mansions are the Minor Leagues from which we draw many of our All-Stars.

Some 50 different Presidential Training Boot Camps - a facility that the American People oftentimes take advantage of.

Given two opposing candidates of good repute and service and vision and prospects, personally, I would choose the former Governor, nearly every time.

I do not see sufficient talent nor vision nor experience on Hillary's part to make this one of those occasional Exceptions - but that's just me.

Yes and you can also argue that the mayor of Wasilla also has those experiences but on a "smaller level"

Washington DC is the big time and the Executive Branch is the premier level of experience. Being the Governor of a state, especially a small state does not equate to playing in the big time. You do not have "Federal" responsibilities or experiences

 

[westwall]

How is being a door mat an accomplishment? Do you even know what the word means?

Hillarys exposure to Washington and global politics during her time as First Lady exceeds any current Republican.

You are welcome to try to prove otherwise

The White House cleaning staff has the same exposure

Silliness. No, it does not.

You're correct. Many of the cleaning staff are far better qualified than Hillary. Thank you for making the so clear.

Yes we can all play that silly game and claim Republicans are not more qualified than your friendly neighborhood bag lady or drug dealer

Fun isn't it?

In many cases I would say the drug dealers are more qualified than any of the Repubs out there. They run a business, they engage in espionage, they balance their budgets and they protect what they have, and of course they are masters at corrupting the politicians they need to further their desires. So yes, I would have to agree with you on the drug dealer front. The bag ladies though, I think they could be a good stand in for old Hillary, she was adept at cleaning up after Bill and his bimbo eruptions.

 

[westwall]

Then the Pubs are just gonna have to change the 'experience' benchmarks, from 'exposure to Washington', over to 'governance'.

At least Bubba Clinton had done a stint as a Governor of a State, before we gave him the keys to the White House.

We let a rookie junior first-term Senator from Illinois into the White House, and he managed to screw the pooch, and lose both houses of Congress.

There are, indeed, examples of Presidential success stories, under circumstances wherein the candidate had not governed, first.

But, after this last Presidency, I think the Nation is better off looking for someone who has actually governed, albeit on a State level, rather than giving the job to another political hack and manufactured celebrity, with nothing more than some time in the Senate, as credentials.

You can serve on a Leadership Committee, then go on to actually LEAD, and be successful, but you have a MUCH better CHANCE of succeeding, if you have already cut your teeth on another sizable Leadership opportunity (State governorship), and made most of your mistakes on somebody else's nickle, before trying to play The Palace.

Or so logic would seem to indicate, as a preferred pathway to the Presidency.

Experience in the office you seek beats being a governor

Hillary had eight years in the Whitehouse followed by four years as Secretary of State. She understands the job she is seeking

A governor understands internal politics of his state but has no understanding of international politics, Washington politics or the internal workings of the executive branch

Being a First Lady is not a time-tested and viable pathway to the Presidency.

A governor understands how to intertwine the work of an Executive Branch with a Legislative Branch and a Judicial Branch, albeit on the State level.

It's why so many Governors have made it to the White House, and why no First Ladies have made it to the White House.

Even merely within the timeframe from the passage of the 19th... the track record speaks for itself.

Never been done before. Eleanor Roosevelt had similar executive office experience as First Lady. But combine those eight years experience with eight years in the Senate and four as Secretary of State and you have executive level experience that no Governor can match

You and I are (apparently) irreconcilable, in our opinions of 'exectuve-level experience' versus 'governing experience'.

I will happily concede that Eleanor Roosevelt, Edith Wilson, and such, were 'Presidential Partners' of the highest caliber. and I'll even concede that Hillary Clinton might arguably be included in that distinguished company, however, I will also stick to my guns, to the extent where I hold that "Observer-caliber" experience is inferior to "Governing-caliber" experience.

A governor has already had front-line experience in balancing a viable Executive alongside the Legislative and Judicial, first hand. An observer lacks that experience.

A legislator (such as a Senator) has merely participated in lawmaking and oversight on a group or committee level, and is not making 'The Buck Stops Here' -caliber decisions as the sole 'Deciderer'.

A department head (such as an SoS) can, indeed, be exposed to a myriad of high-level concepts and goals and constraints - such as those seen within the domain of Foreign Policy - and is, indeed, charged with making mid-range decisions in pursuit of higher-range ones decided by others - but the running of such a department leans heavily upon the entrenched bureaucrats of that department and custom and usage and preexisting strategies and goals and plans and can be run in a rather autocratic fashion, with only a macro-level accountability to the Legislative branch of government.

A governor, on the other hand, has done it all, albeit on a State-level scale - the most important of which, running a 'polity' (a State) - running a 'collective' - with the consent of the governed and alongside a watchful legislature and judiciary: the power of life and death over capital cases, State of the Polity addresses, budgeting, expenditures, collaboration with the Legislature, dealing with the 'mini-governors' of his polity (mayors), soliciting and disbursing Federal tax monies in addition to revenues raised within his own borders, proposing and disposing of policy and strategies, enticing business, taming civil unrest and popular dissatisfaction, tending to Constitutional issues with the courts, etc.

You know.. the kind of things that a Governor (President) of ALL the States does - X (times) 50.

Our 50 governor's mansions are the Minor Leagues from which we draw many of our All-Stars.

Some 50 different Presidential Training Boot Camps - a facility that the American People oftentimes take advantage of.

Given two opposing candidates of good repute and service and vision and prospects, personally, I would choose the former Governor, nearly every time.

I do not see sufficient talent nor vision nor experience on Hillary's part to make this one of those occasional Exceptions - but that's just me.

Yes and you can also argue that the mayor of Wasilla also has those experiences but on a "smaller level"

Washington DC is the big time and the Executive Branch is the premier level of experience. Being the Governor of a state, especially a small state does not equate to playing in the big time. You do not have "Federal" responsibilities or experiences

Palin is an embarrassment. The fact that you keep bringing her up when she isn't running for anything really does show what a shitty candidate Hillary is. Don't ya think?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

HC has the one qualification, the only one, that's necessary - she can get elected. Now you know.

 

[Judicial review]

HC has the one qualification, the only one, that's necessary - she can get elected. Now you know.

By New York? Still need you to paint my house. Need a good mexican.