High emphasizes on Standardized Tests

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    Every state, except Iowa now administers test based on the states standards. Some states require students to pass these standardized tests in order to receive a HS Diploma; if they do not pass these exams they will only receive a certificate of attendance. Standardize testing in each state share these common factors: high standards for what all students should know and do; tests aligned to the standards to measure student progress; and accountability for schools based on the results.

    Therefore, many teachers have resulted to teaching to the test. As a result, students are not in an engaging learning environment but are being forced to memorize facts and practice test taking skills. Although, teaching to the test will help the students become more familiar with the content on the test, other valuable information is being excluded from the curriculum.

    What do you all think? Should testing play a huge role in determining whether students graduate or not?
     
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    That is because after the left destroyed the Public Education system a knee jerk reaction was to create "tests" to prove everyone was learning. It is because the Federal Government got involved in an area they have no authority or right to be in. The Feds want proof their money is not wasted and so "tests" are the proof.

    It is because Teacher Unions have made it nearly impossible to fire tenured incompetent teachers and school districts shift more and more teachers into admin positions to meet all the paper work drills required by a growing Government interference.
     
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    I think that for a HS diploma to have any value, it shouldn't be handed out to anyone for just showing up. I've looked at some of these tests and anyone at graduation age that can't pass the damn thing is a retard and doesn't deserve a diploma. If teaching to the tests results in students acquiring basic math and reading skills, what's the problem with that? Isn't that really what it should be about anyway?
     
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    Because it hurts gifted kids who can do more. We shouldn't ask the bare minimum of those kids, we should ask more and give them more.

    Because it keeps kids from exploring and finding out what they love.

    Because it stifles creativity because there's simply no time.

    I could probably go on.
     
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    I don’t understand it. I do not see how standardized test will solve our education problem. There are still students below grade level and struggling with the basics: reading, writing, arithmetic, there is still a shortage of qualified and dedicated teachers, schools are still under funded and lacking resources; however, states find funding for these exams?? Makes no sense:eusa_eh: .
     
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    That's been a problem since long before these tests so I'm not sure why you would blame the tests. There is no reason why minimum graduation standards cannot co-exist with programs for gifted students.

    Namby Pamby Bullshit...no offense.

    See previous response.

    Of that I have absolutely no doubt. :cool:
     
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    It's not that they CAN'T. It's that they DON'T. Because when teachers are measured by stats, they can't take the time



    How old are your girls? Talk to me again when you realize how their education is being screwed up.



     
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    The problem is these test arent basic math, reading and writing. These tests require far more critical thinking and problem solving skills that students are not being exposed to in class. How can you jump to solving two-step equations if the student can't even add integers? But if you follow the outline of the test that's where you are suppose to start. There’s not enough time set in place for students to work on their personal weakness or build up their strengths because that time is now allocated for test preparation. Instead of school being an institution of learning, where students explore each subject artistically, it has become a place of memorization.
     
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    Like I said, I've seen the tests. I could've passed them in 6th grade.
     
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    You would have failed statistics though :D
     

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