Here’s Proof That the Modern Day GOP Built Itself on Racism

[45gfeay45]

It's called re-writing history, The powerful often do that.

Who is rewriting history?

You are..

Only three democrats switched, the rest like Al Gore's dad remained in the democrat party.

Jimmy Carter won the South.

The youth of the redstates wanted middle class manufacturing jobs instead of farm or textile jobs and the republicans delivered in states like South and North Carolina.

The last president to win white males was LBJ, wonder why?

Carter won due to Watergate, and Clinton due to Perot. By 2000, demographics had begun to change, and Gore had won the Popular Vote on his own.

What the duck does Carter winning the redstates have to do with Watergate?

You don't even know the real reason why Carter beat Ford dumbass

Go back to school

He won due to Watergate causing the new southern voters to have some second thoughts about the republicans.

 

[45gfeay45]

...Although Democrats were once a party driven by white supremacy and racism - the Party of Lincoln now owns that legacy.

Lyndon Baines Johnson (D) 1963... "These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference... I'll have them nig---s voting Democratic for the next two hundred years".

President LBJ: "I’ll have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years" - Is this a real quote? • /r/AskHistorians

Yawzirrr, boss...

Barack Obama says the N-word in Marc Maron's podcast - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Rustic]

The usual “go-to” rhetoric from many conservatives and Republicans regarding racism harkens back to the fact that during the days of the Civil War, the creation and rise of the Ku Klux Klan and the decades of segregation, the Democratic party was mostly behind all of that.

Well, that much is true; there’s no denying that Democrats were once a party driven by white supremacy and overrun with racists.

The problem, of course, is that there’s a distinction which is often overlooked by these modern day Republicans who often use this rhetoric: When the Democratic party was the party of racism, they were considered conservatives while Republicans were considered the liberals. It’s why Republicans mostly flourished in the North while Democrats ruled the South.

That all began to change around the mid-40’s during President Truman’s time in office. He was the first Democratic president who really began to push civil rights into the Democratic platform. It was a move which was so controversial among Southern Democrats that it briefly spawned the “Dixiecrats” in 1948, which was a segregationist party that picked renowned racist Strom Thurmond as its presidential candidate, winning the states of Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Georgia.

I would like to point out that those are all former Confederate states and are currently states considered “strongly Republican.”

By the way, the staunch racist and segregationist Thurmond, who was furious that Democrats were embracing equality, denounced his allegiance to the party in 1964 and joined the Republicans. You know, the same year the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed, officially ending segregation. This was also around the same time that the GOP was implementing what’s known as the “Southern Strategy” – a strategic ploy to pander to white racism to lure in voters as more African-Americans began aligning with Democrats.


Interesting fact: Between the Senate and the House, only 9 of the 124 politicians from “Confederate states” (all Democrats) voted for the Civil Rights Act. It didn’t get a single Southern Republican vote – not one.

There’s a reason why when we look at our nation’s history, practically every state that fought for the Confederacy, and in turn supported slavery (and are today “red”/Republican states), are also the same ones that:

• Opposed women’s suffrage.
  
• Supported segregation.
  
• Banned interracial marriage.
  
• Opposed the Civil Rights Act.

As The Guardian points out concerning the vote on the Civil Rights Act:

You can see that geography was far more predictive of voting coalitions on the Civil Rights than party affiliation. ​

And why is that? Because this was right in the middle of the transition where Republicans began to embrace racism and Democrats were pushing for civil rights and equality. And once again, the “constant” in determining which states were on the “right side of history” on these issues came down to who fought for the North and who fought for the South – regardless of party affiliation.

While some Democrats remained in the South through the 70’s and 80’s, most of them were leftovers from the past as Republicans continued to gain a stronghold over most of these former Confederate states. And as we all know, Republicans are now the unheralded political force in most of the former Confederate South.

So, it’s not exactly difficult to follow the historical pattern that began during the 40’s to see where the dynamics of the parties switched, as Democrats embraced equality and civil rights while the Republican party was quick to embrace the racism and hate Democrats were leaving behind.

That’s why when I encounter one of these Republicans who ignores this clear historic shift between the parties (which is almost always) I ask these three questions:

1. What party do white supremacists and the KKK vote for today?
   
2. Which party elected former Grand Wizard of the KKK, David Duke, in 1989?
   
3. Which party had one of its highest ranking member speak in front of a white supremacist group in 2001?

Typically you won’t get many of these folks to give you a straight answer to any of those, if they’ll even answer them at all. They usually just deflect back to 50+ years ago because they know the answers to those questions are all the same: The Republican party.

Oh, and let me debunk a quick myth that’s been going around about Bill Clinton and a campaign button from his 1992 election depicting the Confederate flag. While the button apparently did exist, it was never sanctioned by the Clinton campaign and was basically just something someone made on their own. It “proves” nothing because it has no ties or affiliation with the former president’s campaign in any way.

Like I’ve said plenty of times before, denial is a powerful thing. Conservatives will continue to cling to their myths, folklores and delusions because that’s what they’ve been told their whole lives and no amount of factual evidence will ever matter to the overwhelming majority of these people.

But the indisputable facts remain that practically every state that fought for the Confederacy, and supported some of the most horrific policies in our nation’s history, today are all “strongly Republican,” and the modern day GOP is supported by white supremacist groups and the KKK.

And while conservatives can twist all of this however they like (and I’m sure they will) that doesn’t change the reality they seem determined to pretend doesn’t exist.

No Longer the Party of Lincoln: Here's Proof That the Modern Day GOP Built Itself on Racism

Although Democrats were once a party driven by white supremacy and racism - the Party of Lincoln now owns that legacy.

Washington redskin, political correctness is racism... Progressives have it in spades. Dumbass
Lol

 

[Iceweasel]

Leftists have been trying this song and dance for a long time. There was NO migration to the GOP. Three guys switched parties and only one was a racist, Strom Thurman, who renounced his past behavior.

The south wanted more economic freedom (sound familiar) and the GOP platform was more attractive so they grew while the Dems shrank. Today the Democrat party still relies heavily on race to divide and conquer.

No, the south was fine with all of FDR's economic programs, they were even willing to sign on with a national healthcare system, it was Truman desegregating the military and the Northern Democrats that advocated desegregation that changed everything in the coalition. Then Goldwater and Reagan said they were against the civil rights act, and the racists went over to vote for them ever since.

Harry Truman and Health Care Reform: The Debate Started Here | Pediatrics Perspectives | Pediatrics

The only state that voted against FDR all times was Vermont, because the old school republican party was very different, there were no bigots and religious fanatics like in modern times. Those guys were conservative democrats back then.

No, you don't get to rewrite history to suit your hatred. Sorry. Three guys jumped ship and not because of racial matter. The GOP helped pass civil rights legislation, the dems were holding it up.

Nope, both the northern democrats and republicans supported it. It was the southerners (both democrats, and the couple of republicans) that opposed it. Then they ran Goldwater who campaigned against Civil Rights, and promised to never sign the legislation for president, and then Goldwater got the southern votes. Later Nixon campaigned against Forced Busing, and Reagan was also against the Civil Rights by appealing to those same racists.

A higher percentage of non-southern democrats supported the Civil Rights Act vs. Republicans.

Were Republicans really the party of civil rights in the 1960s? | Harry J Enten

The south voted for FDR 4 times (while Vermont voted against him), then magically Truman starts talking about desegregation and they start to leave the party, hmmm, why could that be? Even when they otherwise supported his economic proposals including national healthcare.

A few Republicans in the south opposed the civil rights bill so that shoots the rest of your theory down. Cherry picking won't work, sorry.

And by the way, the ability to post a link doesn't win anything. Any retard can do it. If you are too lazy or stupid to find the content it isn't our problem.

 

[45gfeay45]

Leftists have been trying this song and dance for a long time. There was NO migration to the GOP. Three guys switched parties and only one was a racist, Strom Thurman, who renounced his past behavior.

The south wanted more economic freedom (sound familiar) and the GOP platform was more attractive so they grew while the Dems shrank. Today the Democrat party still relies heavily on race to divide and conquer.

No, the south was fine with all of FDR's economic programs, they were even willing to sign on with a national healthcare system, it was Truman desegregating the military and the Northern Democrats that advocated desegregation that changed everything in the coalition. Then Goldwater and Reagan said they were against the civil rights act, and the racists went over to vote for them ever since.

Harry Truman and Health Care Reform: The Debate Started Here | Pediatrics Perspectives | Pediatrics

The only state that voted against FDR all times was Vermont, because the old school republican party was very different, there were no bigots and religious fanatics like in modern times. Those guys were conservative democrats back then.

No, you don't get to rewrite history to suit your hatred. Sorry. Three guys jumped ship and not because of racial matter. The GOP helped pass civil rights legislation, the dems were holding it up.

Nope, both the northern democrats and republicans supported it. It was the southerners (both democrats, and the couple of republicans) that opposed it. Then they ran Goldwater who campaigned against Civil Rights, and promised to never sign the legislation for president, and then Goldwater got the southern votes. Later Nixon campaigned against Forced Busing, and Reagan was also against the Civil Rights by appealing to those same racists.

A higher percentage of non-southern democrats supported the Civil Rights Act vs. Republicans.

Were Republicans really the party of civil rights in the 1960s? | Harry J Enten

The south voted for FDR 4 times (while Vermont voted against him), then magically Truman starts talking about desegregation and they start to leave the party, hmmm, why could that be? Even when they otherwise supported his economic proposals including national healthcare.

A few Republicans in the south opposed the civil rights bill so that shoots the rest of your theory down. Cherry picking won't work, sorry.

And by the way, the ability to post a link doesn't win anything. Any retard can do it. If you are too lazy or stupid to find the content it isn't our problem.

No, it shows that more non-southern democrats supported civil rights vs. republicans. The democrats who opposed it were almost exclusively southerners, but guess what? The few southern republican congressman also opposed it.

 

[Iceweasel]

Articles: The Secret Racist History of the Democratic Party
Clearly, the latter half of the 19th Century, and for much of the early half of the 20th Century, it was the Republican Party that was the party of choice for blacks. How can this be? Because the Republican Party was formed in the late 1850s as an oppositional force to the pro-slavery Democratic Party. Republicans wanted to return to the principles that were originally established in the republic’s founding documents and in doing so became the first party to openly advocated strong civil rights legislation. Voters took notice and in 1860 Abraham Lincoln was elected President along with a Republican Congress. This infuriated the southern Democrats, who soon afterwards left Congress and took their states with them to form what officially became known as The Slaveholding Confederate States of America.

Meanwhile, Republicans pushed full steam ahead. Take, for example, the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution that officially abolished slavery in 1864. Of the 118 Republicans in Congress (House and Senate) at the time, all 118 voted in favor of the legislation, while only 19 of 82 Democrats voted likewise. Then there’s the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments guaranteeing rights of citizenship and voting to black males. Not a single Democrat voted in favor of either the Fourteenth (House and Senate) or Fifteenth (House and Senate) Amendments.

In spite of this, in almost every Southern state, the Republican Party was actually formed by blacks, not whites. Case in point is Houston, Texas, where 150 blacks and 20 whites created the Republican Party of Texas. But perhaps most telling of all with respect to the Republican Party’s achievements is that black men were continuously elected to public office. For example, 42 blacks were elected to the Texas legislature, 112 in Mississippi, 190 in South Carolina, 95 representatives and 32 senators in Louisiana, and many more elected in other states -- all Republican. Democrats didn’t elect their first black American to the U.S. House until 1935!

Political Gangs With Pointy Hoods

By the mid-1860s, the Republican Party’s alliance with blacks had caused a noticeable strain on the Democrats’ struggle for electoral significance in the post-Civil War era. This prompted the Democratic Party in 1866 to develop a new pseudo-secret political action group whose sole purpose was to help gain control of the electorate. The new group was known simply by their initials, KKK (Ku Klux Klan).

This political relationship was nationally solidified shortly thereafter during the 1868 Democratic National Convention when former Civil War General Nathan Bedford Forrest was honored as the KKK’s first Grand Wizard. But don’t bother checking the Democratic National Committee’s website for proof. For many years, even up through the 2012 Presidential Election, the DNC had omitted all related history from 1848 to 1900 from their timeline -- half a century worth! Now, for the 2016 election cycle, they’ve scratched even more history. Apparently, they believe it’s easier to just lie and claim to have fought for civil rights for over 200 hundred years, while seeing fit to list only a select few distorted events as exemplary, beginning as late as the 1920s. Incredibly, the DNC conveniently jumps past more than 100 years of American history!

Nevertheless, this sordid history is still well documented. There’s even a thirteen-volume set of Congressional investigations dating from 1872 detailing the Klan’s connection to the Democratic Party. The official documents, titled Report of the Joint Select Committee to Inquire Into the Condition of Affairs in the Late Insurrectionary States, irrefutably proves the KKK’s prominent role in the Democratic Party.

One of the most vivid examples of collusion between the KKK and Democratic Party was when Democrat Senator Wade Hampton ran for the governorship of South Carolina in 1876. The Klan put into action a battle plan to help Democrats win, stating: “Every Democrat must feel honor bound to control the vote of at least one Negro by intimidation…. Democrats must go in as large numbers…and well-armed.” An issue of Harper’s Weekly that same year illustrated this mindset with a depiction of two white Democrats standing next to a black man while pointing a gun at him. At the bottom of the depiction is a caption that reads: “Of Course He Wants To Vote The Democratic Ticket!”

 

[45gfeay45]

Articles: The Secret Racist History of the Democratic Party
Clearly, the latter half of the 19th Century, and for much of the early half of the 20th Century, it was the Republican Party that was the party of choice for blacks. How can this be? Because the Republican Party was formed in the late 1850s as an oppositional force to the pro-slavery Democratic Party. Republicans wanted to return to the principles that were originally established in the republic’s founding documents and in doing so became the first party to openly advocated strong civil rights legislation. Voters took notice and in 1860 Abraham Lincoln was elected President along with a Republican Congress. This infuriated the southern Democrats, who soon afterwards left Congress and took their states with them to form what officially became known as The Slaveholding Confederate States of America.

Meanwhile, Republicans pushed full steam ahead. Take, for example, the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution that officially abolished slavery in 1864. Of the 118 Republicans in Congress (House and Senate) at the time, all 118 voted in favor of the legislation, while only 19 of 82 Democrats voted likewise. Then there’s the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments guaranteeing rights of citizenship and voting to black males. Not a single Democrat voted in favor of either the Fourteenth (House and Senate) or Fifteenth (House and Senate) Amendments.

In spite of this, in almost every Southern state, the Republican Party was actually formed by blacks, not whites. Case in point is Houston, Texas, where 150 blacks and 20 whites created the Republican Party of Texas. But perhaps most telling of all with respect to the Republican Party’s achievements is that black men were continuously elected to public office. For example, 42 blacks were elected to the Texas legislature, 112 in Mississippi, 190 in South Carolina, 95 representatives and 32 senators in Louisiana, and many more elected in other states -- all Republican. Democrats didn’t elect their first black American to the U.S. House until 1935!

Political Gangs With Pointy Hoods

By the mid-1860s, the Republican Party’s alliance with blacks had caused a noticeable strain on the Democrats’ struggle for electoral significance in the post-Civil War era. This prompted the Democratic Party in 1866 to develop a new pseudo-secret political action group whose sole purpose was to help gain control of the electorate. The new group was known simply by their initials, KKK (Ku Klux Klan).

This political relationship was nationally solidified shortly thereafter during the 1868 Democratic National Convention when former Civil War General Nathan Bedford Forrest was honored as the KKK’s first Grand Wizard. But don’t bother checking the Democratic National Committee’s website for proof. For many years, even up through the 2012 Presidential Election, the DNC had omitted all related history from 1848 to 1900 from their timeline -- half a century worth! Now, for the 2016 election cycle, they’ve scratched even more history. Apparently, they believe it’s easier to just lie and claim to have fought for civil rights for over 200 hundred years, while seeing fit to list only a select few distorted events as exemplary, beginning as late as the 1920s. Incredibly, the DNC conveniently jumps past more than 100 years of American history!

Nevertheless, this sordid history is still well documented. There’s even a thirteen-volume set of Congressional investigations dating from 1872 detailing the Klan’s connection to the Democratic Party. The official documents, titled Report of the Joint Select Committee to Inquire Into the Condition of Affairs in the Late Insurrectionary States, irrefutably proves the KKK’s prominent role in the Democratic Party.

One of the most vivid examples of collusion between the KKK and Democratic Party was when Democrat Senator Wade Hampton ran for the governorship of South Carolina in 1876. The Klan put into action a battle plan to help Democrats win, stating: “Every Democrat must feel honor bound to control the vote of at least one Negro by intimidation…. Democrats must go in as large numbers…and well-armed.” An issue of Harper’s Weekly that same year illustrated this mindset with a depiction of two white Democrats standing next to a black man while pointing a gun at him. At the bottom of the depiction is a caption that reads: “Of Course He Wants To Vote The Democratic Ticket!”

Yes, until Goldwater, and Reagan came along and opposed the Civil Rights Act:

Reagan's Race Record

 

[Iceweasel]

Leftists have been trying this song and dance for a long time. There was NO migration to the GOP. Three guys switched parties and only one was a racist, Strom Thurman, who renounced his past behavior.

The south wanted more economic freedom (sound familiar) and the GOP platform was more attractive so they grew while the Dems shrank. Today the Democrat party still relies heavily on race to divide and conquer.

No, the south was fine with all of FDR's economic programs, they were even willing to sign on with a national healthcare system, it was Truman desegregating the military and the Northern Democrats that advocated desegregation that changed everything in the coalition. Then Goldwater and Reagan said they were against the civil rights act, and the racists went over to vote for them ever since.

Harry Truman and Health Care Reform: The Debate Started Here | Pediatrics Perspectives | Pediatrics

The only state that voted against FDR all times was Vermont, because the old school republican party was very different, there were no bigots and religious fanatics like in modern times. Those guys were conservative democrats back then.

No, you don't get to rewrite history to suit your hatred. Sorry. Three guys jumped ship and not because of racial matter. The GOP helped pass civil rights legislation, the dems were holding it up.

Nope, both the northern democrats and republicans supported it. It was the southerners (both democrats, and the couple of republicans) that opposed it. Then they ran Goldwater who campaigned against Civil Rights, and promised to never sign the legislation for president, and then Goldwater got the southern votes. Later Nixon campaigned against Forced Busing, and Reagan was also against the Civil Rights by appealing to those same racists.

A higher percentage of non-southern democrats supported the Civil Rights Act vs. Republicans.

Were Republicans really the party of civil rights in the 1960s? | Harry J Enten

The south voted for FDR 4 times (while Vermont voted against him), then magically Truman starts talking about desegregation and they start to leave the party, hmmm, why could that be? Even when they otherwise supported his economic proposals including national healthcare.

A few Republicans in the south opposed the civil rights bill so that shoots the rest of your theory down. Cherry picking won't work, sorry.

And by the way, the ability to post a link doesn't win anything. Any retard can do it. If you are too lazy or stupid to find the content it isn't our problem.

No, it shows that more non-southern democrats supported civil rights vs. republicans. The democrats who opposed it were almost exclusively southerners, but guess what? The few southern republican congressman also opposed it.

Non-southern? Most people call those northerners. Like I said, a few Republicans opposed it so why would the racist Democrats run over there? Makes no sense. Not to mention there is no record of that happening.

Fail.

 

[Iceweasel]

Articles: The Secret Racist History of the Democratic Party
Clearly, the latter half of the 19th Century, and for much of the early half of the 20th Century, it was the Republican Party that was the party of choice for blacks. How can this be? Because the Republican Party was formed in the late 1850s as an oppositional force to the pro-slavery Democratic Party. Republicans wanted to return to the principles that were originally established in the republic’s founding documents and in doing so became the first party to openly advocated strong civil rights legislation. Voters took notice and in 1860 Abraham Lincoln was elected President along with a Republican Congress. This infuriated the southern Democrats, who soon afterwards left Congress and took their states with them to form what officially became known as The Slaveholding Confederate States of America.

Meanwhile, Republicans pushed full steam ahead. Take, for example, the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution that officially abolished slavery in 1864. Of the 118 Republicans in Congress (House and Senate) at the time, all 118 voted in favor of the legislation, while only 19 of 82 Democrats voted likewise. Then there’s the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments guaranteeing rights of citizenship and voting to black males. Not a single Democrat voted in favor of either the Fourteenth (House and Senate) or Fifteenth (House and Senate) Amendments.

In spite of this, in almost every Southern state, the Republican Party was actually formed by blacks, not whites. Case in point is Houston, Texas, where 150 blacks and 20 whites created the Republican Party of Texas. But perhaps most telling of all with respect to the Republican Party’s achievements is that black men were continuously elected to public office. For example, 42 blacks were elected to the Texas legislature, 112 in Mississippi, 190 in South Carolina, 95 representatives and 32 senators in Louisiana, and many more elected in other states -- all Republican. Democrats didn’t elect their first black American to the U.S. House until 1935!

Political Gangs With Pointy Hoods

By the mid-1860s, the Republican Party’s alliance with blacks had caused a noticeable strain on the Democrats’ struggle for electoral significance in the post-Civil War era. This prompted the Democratic Party in 1866 to develop a new pseudo-secret political action group whose sole purpose was to help gain control of the electorate. The new group was known simply by their initials, KKK (Ku Klux Klan).

This political relationship was nationally solidified shortly thereafter during the 1868 Democratic National Convention when former Civil War General Nathan Bedford Forrest was honored as the KKK’s first Grand Wizard. But don’t bother checking the Democratic National Committee’s website for proof. For many years, even up through the 2012 Presidential Election, the DNC had omitted all related history from 1848 to 1900 from their timeline -- half a century worth! Now, for the 2016 election cycle, they’ve scratched even more history. Apparently, they believe it’s easier to just lie and claim to have fought for civil rights for over 200 hundred years, while seeing fit to list only a select few distorted events as exemplary, beginning as late as the 1920s. Incredibly, the DNC conveniently jumps past more than 100 years of American history!

Nevertheless, this sordid history is still well documented. There’s even a thirteen-volume set of Congressional investigations dating from 1872 detailing the Klan’s connection to the Democratic Party. The official documents, titled Report of the Joint Select Committee to Inquire Into the Condition of Affairs in the Late Insurrectionary States, irrefutably proves the KKK’s prominent role in the Democratic Party.

One of the most vivid examples of collusion between the KKK and Democratic Party was when Democrat Senator Wade Hampton ran for the governorship of South Carolina in 1876. The Klan put into action a battle plan to help Democrats win, stating: “Every Democrat must feel honor bound to control the vote of at least one Negro by intimidation…. Democrats must go in as large numbers…and well-armed.” An issue of Harper’s Weekly that same year illustrated this mindset with a depiction of two white Democrats standing next to a black man while pointing a gun at him. At the bottom of the depiction is a caption that reads: “Of Course He Wants To Vote The Democratic Ticket!”

Yes, until Goldwater, and Reagan came along and opposed the Civil Rights Act:

Reagan's Race Record

Look asshole. I'm not leaving the board to read your stupid links. You're too dense to find content, you've made that clear.

 

[45gfeay45]

No, the south was fine with all of FDR's economic programs, they were even willing to sign on with a national healthcare system, it was Truman desegregating the military and the Northern Democrats that advocated desegregation that changed everything in the coalition. Then Goldwater and Reagan said they were against the civil rights act, and the racists went over to vote for them ever since.

Harry Truman and Health Care Reform: The Debate Started Here | Pediatrics Perspectives | Pediatrics

The only state that voted against FDR all times was Vermont, because the old school republican party was very different, there were no bigots and religious fanatics like in modern times. Those guys were conservative democrats back then.

No, you don't get to rewrite history to suit your hatred. Sorry. Three guys jumped ship and not because of racial matter. The GOP helped pass civil rights legislation, the dems were holding it up.

Nope, both the northern democrats and republicans supported it. It was the southerners (both democrats, and the couple of republicans) that opposed it. Then they ran Goldwater who campaigned against Civil Rights, and promised to never sign the legislation for president, and then Goldwater got the southern votes. Later Nixon campaigned against Forced Busing, and Reagan was also against the Civil Rights by appealing to those same racists.

A higher percentage of non-southern democrats supported the Civil Rights Act vs. Republicans.

Were Republicans really the party of civil rights in the 1960s? | Harry J Enten

The south voted for FDR 4 times (while Vermont voted against him), then magically Truman starts talking about desegregation and they start to leave the party, hmmm, why could that be? Even when they otherwise supported his economic proposals including national healthcare.

A few Republicans in the south opposed the civil rights bill so that shoots the rest of your theory down. Cherry picking won't work, sorry.

And by the way, the ability to post a link doesn't win anything. Any retard can do it. If you are too lazy or stupid to find the content it isn't our problem.

No, it shows that more non-southern democrats supported civil rights vs. republicans. The democrats who opposed it were almost exclusively southerners, but guess what? The few southern republican congressman also opposed it.

Non-southern? Most people call those northerners. Like I said, a few Republicans opposed it so why would the racist Democrats run over there? Makes no sense. Not to mention there is no record of that happening.

Fail.

Because there were few southern republicans in the first place, since the south was democratic.

Since you're from Washington, Oregon was a staunch republican state until the the 1980s, and was founded on racism:

http://gizmodo.com/oregon-was-founded-as-a-racist-utopia-1539567040

 

[Iceweasel]

You Democrats still need to white wash your horrible history don't you?



Gee, guess who first introduced what would later become the 19th Amendment? And guess what party he belonged to?

"In January 1878, Senator Sargent introduced the 29 words that would later become the 19th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, allowing women the right to vote. Sargent’s wife, Ellen Clark Sargent, was a leading voting rights advocate, and a friend of such suffrage leaders as Susan B. Anthony. The bill calling for the amendment would be introduced unsuccessfully each year for the next forty years. Sargent returned to California in 1880."

Aaron A. Sargent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have news for you. Lincoln hated State's Rights and the Supreme Court. He ignored 'constitutional principles' and laughed at the Court as illegitimate when they ruled against him, since he never gave a shit about the constitution or principles as he wasn't a conservative when he launch a civil war against state's rights.

Back it up. You keep spewing shit like you were our master. It doesn't work that way here, you aren't at the playground anymore.

 

[Iceweasel]

No, you don't get to rewrite history to suit your hatred. Sorry. Three guys jumped ship and not because of racial matter. The GOP helped pass civil rights legislation, the dems were holding it up.

Nope, both the northern democrats and republicans supported it. It was the southerners (both democrats, and the couple of republicans) that opposed it. Then they ran Goldwater who campaigned against Civil Rights, and promised to never sign the legislation for president, and then Goldwater got the southern votes. Later Nixon campaigned against Forced Busing, and Reagan was also against the Civil Rights by appealing to those same racists.

A higher percentage of non-southern democrats supported the Civil Rights Act vs. Republicans.

Were Republicans really the party of civil rights in the 1960s? | Harry J Enten

The south voted for FDR 4 times (while Vermont voted against him), then magically Truman starts talking about desegregation and they start to leave the party, hmmm, why could that be? Even when they otherwise supported his economic proposals including national healthcare.

A few Republicans in the south opposed the civil rights bill so that shoots the rest of your theory down. Cherry picking won't work, sorry.

And by the way, the ability to post a link doesn't win anything. Any retard can do it. If you are too lazy or stupid to find the content it isn't our problem.

No, it shows that more non-southern democrats supported civil rights vs. republicans. The democrats who opposed it were almost exclusively southerners, but guess what? The few southern republican congressman also opposed it.

Non-southern? Most people call those northerners. Like I said, a few Republicans opposed it so why would the racist Democrats run over there? Makes no sense. Not to mention there is no record of that happening.

Fail.

Because there were few southern republicans in the first place, since the south was democratic.

Since you're from Washington, Oregon was a staunch republican state until the the 1980s, and was founded on racism:

http://gizmodo.com/oregon-was-founded-as-a-racist-utopia-1539567040

Your theory makes no sense, throwing another smokescreen out won't work. Post the record of the dems' switch to republican. Then you've made your case, until then you are talking shit.

 

[45gfeay45]

Nope, both the northern democrats and republicans supported it. It was the southerners (both democrats, and the couple of republicans) that opposed it. Then they ran Goldwater who campaigned against Civil Rights, and promised to never sign the legislation for president, and then Goldwater got the southern votes. Later Nixon campaigned against Forced Busing, and Reagan was also against the Civil Rights by appealing to those same racists.

A higher percentage of non-southern democrats supported the Civil Rights Act vs. Republicans.

Were Republicans really the party of civil rights in the 1960s? | Harry J Enten

The south voted for FDR 4 times (while Vermont voted against him), then magically Truman starts talking about desegregation and they start to leave the party, hmmm, why could that be? Even when they otherwise supported his economic proposals including national healthcare.

A few Republicans in the south opposed the civil rights bill so that shoots the rest of your theory down. Cherry picking won't work, sorry.

And by the way, the ability to post a link doesn't win anything. Any retard can do it. If you are too lazy or stupid to find the content it isn't our problem.

No, it shows that more non-southern democrats supported civil rights vs. republicans. The democrats who opposed it were almost exclusively southerners, but guess what? The few southern republican congressman also opposed it.

Non-southern? Most people call those northerners. Like I said, a few Republicans opposed it so why would the racist Democrats run over there? Makes no sense. Not to mention there is no record of that happening.

Fail.

Because there were few southern republicans in the first place, since the south was democratic.

Since you're from Washington, Oregon was a staunch republican state until the the 1980s, and was founded on racism:

http://gizmodo.com/oregon-was-founded-as-a-racist-utopia-1539567040

Your theory makes no sense, throwing another smokescreen out won't work. Post the record of the dems' switch to republican. Then you've made your case, until then you are talking shit.

It shows that there were Republicans who were Racists too, hence why more non-southern democrats voted for the civil rights act than non-southern republicans. Non-Southern Republicans were also racist like Goldwater and Reagan who were against the Civil Rights Act. Oregon was founded on racism, and it was one of the most republican states until the 1980s.

 

[Correll]

The usual “go-to” rhetoric from many conservatives and Republicans regarding racism harkens back to the fact that during the days of the Civil War, the creation and rise of the Ku Klux Klan and the decades of segregation, the Democratic party was mostly behind all of that.

Well, that much is true; there’s no denying that Democrats were once a party driven by white supremacy and overrun with racists.

The problem, of course, is that there’s a distinction which is often overlooked by these modern day Republicans who often use this rhetoric: When the Democratic party was the party of racism, they were considered conservatives while Republicans were considered the liberals. It’s why Republicans mostly flourished in the North while Democrats ruled the South.

That all began to change around the mid-40’s during President Truman’s time in office. He was the first Democratic president who really began to push civil rights into the Democratic platform. It was a move which was so controversial among Southern Democrats that it briefly spawned the “Dixiecrats” in 1948, which was a segregationist party that picked renowned racist Strom Thurmond as its presidential candidate, winning the states of Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Georgia.

I would like to point out that those are all former Confederate states and are currently states considered “strongly Republican.”

By the way, the staunch racist and segregationist Thurmond, who was furious that Democrats were embracing equality, denounced his allegiance to the party in 1964 and joined the Republicans. You know, the same year the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed, officially ending segregation. This was also around the same time that the GOP was implementing what’s known as the “Southern Strategy” – a strategic ploy to pander to white racism to lure in voters as more African-Americans began aligning with Democrats.


Interesting fact: Between the Senate and the House, only 9 of the 124 politicians from “Confederate states” (all Democrats) voted for the Civil Rights Act. It didn’t get a single Southern Republican vote – not one.

There’s a reason why when we look at our nation’s history, practically every state that fought for the Confederacy, and in turn supported slavery (and are today “red”/Republican states), are also the same ones that:

• Opposed women’s suffrage.
  
• Supported segregation.
  
• Banned interracial marriage.
  
• Opposed the Civil Rights Act.

As The Guardian points out concerning the vote on the Civil Rights Act:

You can see that geography was far more predictive of voting coalitions on the Civil Rights than party affiliation. ​

And why is that? Because this was right in the middle of the transition where Republicans began to embrace racism and Democrats were pushing for civil rights and equality. And once again, the “constant” in determining which states were on the “right side of history” on these issues came down to who fought for the North and who fought for the South – regardless of party affiliation.

While some Democrats remained in the South through the 70’s and 80’s, most of them were leftovers from the past as Republicans continued to gain a stronghold over most of these former Confederate states. And as we all know, Republicans are now the unheralded political force in most of the former Confederate South.

So, it’s not exactly difficult to follow the historical pattern that began during the 40’s to see where the dynamics of the parties switched, as Democrats embraced equality and civil rights while the Republican party was quick to embrace the racism and hate Democrats were leaving behind.

That’s why when I encounter one of these Republicans who ignores this clear historic shift between the parties (which is almost always) I ask these three questions:

1. What party do white supremacists and the KKK vote for today?
   
2. Which party elected former Grand Wizard of the KKK, David Duke, in 1989?
   
3. Which party had one of its highest ranking member speak in front of a white supremacist group in 2001?

Typically you won’t get many of these folks to give you a straight answer to any of those, if they’ll even answer them at all. They usually just deflect back to 50+ years ago because they know the answers to those questions are all the same: The Republican party.

Oh, and let me debunk a quick myth that’s been going around about Bill Clinton and a campaign button from his 1992 election depicting the Confederate flag. While the button apparently did exist, it was never sanctioned by the Clinton campaign and was basically just something someone made on their own. It “proves” nothing because it has no ties or affiliation with the former president’s campaign in any way.

Like I’ve said plenty of times before, denial is a powerful thing. Conservatives will continue to cling to their myths, folklores and delusions because that’s what they’ve been told their whole lives and no amount of factual evidence will ever matter to the overwhelming majority of these people.

But the indisputable facts remain that practically every state that fought for the Confederacy, and supported some of the most horrific policies in our nation’s history, today are all “strongly Republican,” and the modern day GOP is supported by white supremacist groups and the KKK.

And while conservatives can twist all of this however they like (and I’m sure they will) that doesn’t change the reality they seem determined to pretend doesn’t exist.

No Longer the Party of Lincoln: Here's Proof That the Modern Day GOP Built Itself on Racism

Although Democrats were once a party driven by white supremacy and racism - the Party of Lincoln now owns that legacy.

What you just did there was prove that you don't know the meaning of the word "proof".


And post some lies.


You are a moron.

 

[Iceweasel]

A few Republicans in the south opposed the civil rights bill so that shoots the rest of your theory down. Cherry picking won't work, sorry.

And by the way, the ability to post a link doesn't win anything. Any retard can do it. If you are too lazy or stupid to find the content it isn't our problem.

No, it shows that more non-southern democrats supported civil rights vs. republicans. The democrats who opposed it were almost exclusively southerners, but guess what? The few southern republican congressman also opposed it.

Non-southern? Most people call those northerners. Like I said, a few Republicans opposed it so why would the racist Democrats run over there? Makes no sense. Not to mention there is no record of that happening.

Fail.

Because there were few southern republicans in the first place, since the south was democratic.

Since you're from Washington, Oregon was a staunch republican state until the the 1980s, and was founded on racism:

http://gizmodo.com/oregon-was-founded-as-a-racist-utopia-1539567040

Your theory makes no sense, throwing another smokescreen out won't work. Post the record of the dems' switch to republican. Then you've made your case, until then you are talking shit.

It shows that there were Republicans who were Racists too, hence why more non-southern democrats voted for the civil rights act than non-southern republicans. Non-Southern Republicans were also racist like Goldwater and Reagan who were against the Civil Rights Act. Oregon was founded on racism, and it was one of the most republican states until the 1980s.

So you still have nothing.

 

[owebo]

You Democrats still need to white wash your horrible history don't you?



Gee, guess who first introduced what would later become the 19th Amendment? And guess what party he belonged to?

"In January 1878, Senator Sargent introduced the 29 words that would later become the 19th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, allowing women the right to vote. Sargent’s wife, Ellen Clark Sargent, was a leading voting rights advocate, and a friend of such suffrage leaders as Susan B. Anthony. The bill calling for the amendment would be introduced unsuccessfully each year for the next forty years. Sargent returned to California in 1880."

Aaron A. Sargent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have news for you. Lincoln hated State's Rights and the Supreme Court. He ignored 'constitutional principles' and laughed at the Court as illegitimate when they ruled against him, since he never gave a shit about the constitution or principles as he wasn't a conservative when he launch a civil war against state's rights.

No...he hated you slavry owner/slavery champion liberals....

 

[Correll]

With the Dem Party giving up resistance to Civil Rights, Civil Rights became the National Consensus.

The strained alliance between the more rural South and the immigrant urban dems of the North broke apart as the Dems were not offering the race voters of the South anything.

Civil Rights became a non issue as BOTH parties supported it.

Thus the new rising Middle Class of the South flipped the South from the Dems to the Republicans.

There was no "Southern Strategy" in the sense of a outreach to racist voters.

Anyone that thinks that Law and Order was nothing but "code" for racism is forgetting the rise is crime during the 60s and the 70s, not to mention the very large scale RIOTS, with hundreds dead in the streets.

 

[tinydancer]

You Democrats still need to white wash your horrible history don't you?



Gee, guess who first introduced what would later become the 19th Amendment? And guess what party he belonged to?

"In January 1878, Senator Sargent introduced the 29 words that would later become the 19th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, allowing women the right to vote. Sargent’s wife, Ellen Clark Sargent, was a leading voting rights advocate, and a friend of such suffrage leaders as Susan B. Anthony. The bill calling for the amendment would be introduced unsuccessfully each year for the next forty years. Sargent returned to California in 1880."

Aaron A. Sargent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have news for you. Lincoln hated State's Rights and the Supreme Court. He ignored 'constitutional principles' and laughed at the Court as illegitimate when they ruled against him, since he never gave a shit about the constitution or principles as he wasn't a conservative when he launch a civil war against state's rights.

I didn't talk about Lincoln at all. Oh and btw the reason it took so long to get a handle on women's rights is because there were two major activist groups that were at each others throats during this time period.

And at the same time, the women activists wanted to be part of the 14th but the R's insisted that the freed slaves needed to be given suffrage first because it was a matter of life and death for the freemen.

Now I hate revisionist historians. Now please deal with your lousy past will you?

"That war began in 1878, when a California Republican named A.A. Sargent introduced the 19th Amendment only to see it voted down by a Democrat-controlled Congress. It finally ended four decades later, when the Republicans won landslide victories in the House and the Senate, giving them the power to pass the amendment despite continued opposition from most elected Democrats — including President Woodrow Wilson, to whom the suffragettes frequently referred as “Kaiser Wilson.”

Republicans and Women’s Rights: A Brief Reality Check | The American Spectator

 

[buckeye45_73]

The usual “go-to” rhetoric from many conservatives and Republicans regarding racism harkens back to the fact that during the days of the Civil War, the creation and rise of the Ku Klux Klan and the decades of segregation, the Democratic party was mostly behind all of that.

Well, that much is true; there’s no denying that Democrats were once a party driven by white supremacy and overrun with racists.

The problem, of course, is that there’s a distinction which is often overlooked by these modern day Republicans who often use this rhetoric: When the Democratic party was the party of racism, they were considered conservatives while Republicans were considered the liberals. It’s why Republicans mostly flourished in the North while Democrats ruled the South.

That all began to change around the mid-40’s during President Truman’s time in office. He was the first Democratic president who really began to push civil rights into the Democratic platform. It was a move which was so controversial among Southern Democrats that it briefly spawned the “Dixiecrats” in 1948, which was a segregationist party that picked renowned racist Strom Thurmond as its presidential candidate, winning the states of Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Georgia.

I would like to point out that those are all former Confederate states and are currently states considered “strongly Republican.”

By the way, the staunch racist and segregationist Thurmond, who was furious that Democrats were embracing equality, denounced his allegiance to the party in 1964 and joined the Republicans. You know, the same year the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed, officially ending segregation. This was also around the same time that the GOP was implementing what’s known as the “Southern Strategy” – a strategic ploy to pander to white racism to lure in voters as more African-Americans began aligning with Democrats.


Interesting fact: Between the Senate and the House, only 9 of the 124 politicians from “Confederate states” (all Democrats) voted for the Civil Rights Act. It didn’t get a single Southern Republican vote – not one.

There’s a reason why when we look at our nation’s history, practically every state that fought for the Confederacy, and in turn supported slavery (and are today “red”/Republican states), are also the same ones that:

• Opposed women’s suffrage.
  
• Supported segregation.
  
• Banned interracial marriage.
  
• Opposed the Civil Rights Act.

As The Guardian points out concerning the vote on the Civil Rights Act:

You can see that geography was far more predictive of voting coalitions on the Civil Rights than party affiliation. ​

And why is that? Because this was right in the middle of the transition where Republicans began to embrace racism and Democrats were pushing for civil rights and equality. And once again, the “constant” in determining which states were on the “right side of history” on these issues came down to who fought for the North and who fought for the South – regardless of party affiliation.

While some Democrats remained in the South through the 70’s and 80’s, most of them were leftovers from the past as Republicans continued to gain a stronghold over most of these former Confederate states. And as we all know, Republicans are now the unheralded political force in most of the former Confederate South.

So, it’s not exactly difficult to follow the historical pattern that began during the 40’s to see where the dynamics of the parties switched, as Democrats embraced equality and civil rights while the Republican party was quick to embrace the racism and hate Democrats were leaving behind.

That’s why when I encounter one of these Republicans who ignores this clear historic shift between the parties (which is almost always) I ask these three questions:

1. What party do white supremacists and the KKK vote for today?
   
2. Which party elected former Grand Wizard of the KKK, David Duke, in 1989?
   
3. Which party had one of its highest ranking member speak in front of a white supremacist group in 2001?

Typically you won’t get many of these folks to give you a straight answer to any of those, if they’ll even answer them at all. They usually just deflect back to 50+ years ago because they know the answers to those questions are all the same: The Republican party.

Oh, and let me debunk a quick myth that’s been going around about Bill Clinton and a campaign button from his 1992 election depicting the Confederate flag. While the button apparently did exist, it was never sanctioned by the Clinton campaign and was basically just something someone made on their own. It “proves” nothing because it has no ties or affiliation with the former president’s campaign in any way.

Like I’ve said plenty of times before, denial is a powerful thing. Conservatives will continue to cling to their myths, folklores and delusions because that’s what they’ve been told their whole lives and no amount of factual evidence will ever matter to the overwhelming majority of these people.

But the indisputable facts remain that practically every state that fought for the Confederacy, and supported some of the most horrific policies in our nation’s history, today are all “strongly Republican,” and the modern day GOP is supported by white supremacist groups and the KKK.

And while conservatives can twist all of this however they like (and I’m sure they will) that doesn’t change the reality they seem determined to pretend doesn’t exist.

No Longer the Party of Lincoln: Here's Proof That the Modern Day GOP Built Itself on Racism

Although Democrats were once a party driven by white supremacy and racism - the Party of Lincoln now owns that legacy.

So Woodrow Wilson and FDR were conservatives?

That alone proves you're totally full of shit. Democrats have always been in favor of big government and tax and spend.

Bingo, not to mention who was against curbing lynchings? was it Nixon? No was it Eisenhower? No, was it Robert Taft? No....it was FDR...yes our favorite American fascist....wanted nothing to do with anti-lynching legislation.

 

[tinydancer]

It's called re-writing history, The powerful often do that.

Before the deranged (mostly southern) rednecks and religious freaks (aka most of the delusional posters on here)

Didn't make it past that. It's rubber room material.

Note the newbie appears to have a hate on for USMB conservative posters and yet he just joined. Interesting.