Here is the truth about "Palestine"

[The Irish Ram]

There was no Palestine. This man is telling the real facts about how the squatters ended up stuck where they are. And where they are belongs to Israel...

 

[DukeU]

 

[Winston]

There was no Palestine. This man is telling the real facts about how the squatters ended up stuck where they are. And where they are belongs to Israel...

What a stupid hillbilly. The area "Palestine" goes back to at least 1150 BCE, and that is not including Biblical references to Philistine which is referenced all over the Torah.

Herodotus mentions Palaistinê in his historical accounts and let's just say, if you don't know who Herodotus is, if you have to google him, then GTFO out of the thread. Needless to say, he was using the term Palestine a wee bit before 1948, LIKE OVER TWO THOUSAND YEARS before.

The real con is the whole "Jewish race" horseshit. And the funny part, Judaism, at least as far as "race" is concerned, is traced through maternal lineage. Yet the vast majority of Jews, in Israel, the United States, and Europe, stem from a couple of maternal lines that originated in Europe in the 6th century.

A substantial prehistoric European ancestry amongst Ashkenazi maternal lineages - Nature Communications

Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA variation has four major founders whose sources are difficult to trace due to the rarity of Ashkenazi Jews in the general population. Here, the authors provide evidence that all four major founders originated from Europe and provide a genealogical record of the Ashkenazi.

www.nature.com

But then, well let's look at the paternal heritage.

Study Finds Jews Are Genetic Brothers of Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese

If a common heritage conferred peace, then perhaps the long history of conflict in the Middle East would have been resolved years ago, according to new research directed by UA's Michael Hammer.

news.arizona.edu

Yep, the Jews are the descendants of Abraham, but so are the Palestinians and the Arabs. And I know all about Issac and Ishmael. But in the Muslim tradition, it wasn't Issac that God asked Abraham to sacrifice, it was Ishmael. Like it or not, it is just as likely that the Palestinians are God's chosen people as it is that modern Jews are. Matter of fact, the Koran mentions Moses more than any other prophet, including Mohammad.

 

[Winston]

OK, which is it. There is no such thing as a Palestinian, or all the Palestinians are extinct?

 

[DukeU]

OK, which is it. There is no such thing as a Palestinian, or all the Palestinians are extinct?

Never existed.

 

[The Irish Ram]

What a stupid hillbilly. The area "Palestine" goes back to at least 1150 BCE, and that is not including Biblical references to Philistine which is referenced all over the Torah

'' Unfortunately, the Philistines were neither Arabs nor Semites (which the current Palestinians certainly claim to be), and the name Palestine was assigned to the region after the Romans put down the Bar Kochba rebellion around A.D. 135.

Tracking the Philistines (Published 2003)

www.nytimes.com

Dumbass...

 

[Winston]

Never existed.

Then see my previous post. Besides, your post claims they are "extinct". Which, I guess, depends on what you mean by "extinct". If extinct means that the genetic purity of a particular "race" has been so diluted from interbreeding, yeah, sounds like something you would read on Stromfront, then the "Jews" are extinct as well.

 

[Winston]

'' Unfortunately, the Philistines were neither Arabs nor Semites (which the current Palestinians certainly claim to be), and the name Palestine was assigned to the region after the Romans put down the Bar Kochba rebellion around A.D. 135.

Tracking the Philistines (Published 2003)

www.nytimes.com

Dumbass...

'' Unfortunately, the Philistines were neither Arabs nor Semites (which the current Palestinians certainly claim to be), and the name Palestine was assigned to the region after thI

'' Unfortunately, the Philistines were neither Arabs nor Semites (which the current Palestinians certainly claim to be), and the name Palestine was assigned to the region after the Romans put down the Bar Kochba rebellion around A.D. 135.

Tracking the Philistines (Published 2003)

www.nytimes.com

Dumbass...

WTF did I say. If you don't know who Herodotus is stay the fawk out of the thread. Herodotus used the term "Palestine" 500 years before the Bar Kochba rebellion. Explain that.

Timeline of the name Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[The Irish Ram]

The Greek philosopher called Syria, Palestine. And he never even mentioned the Jews.
I say let's listen to him and send all those squatters in Israel to Syria where Herodotus thought they belonged...

 

[Winston]

The Greek philosopher called Syria, Palestine. And he never even mentioned the Jews.
I say let's listen to him and send all those squatters in Israel to Syria where Herodotus thought they belonged...

You are such an ignorant dumbass.

"The country reaching from the city of Posideium to the borders of Egypt... paid a tribute of three hundred and fifty talents. All Phoenicia, Palestine Syria, and Cyprus, were herein contained.

 

[The Irish Ram]

You are such an ignorant dumbass.

"The country reaching from the city of Posideium to the borders of Egypt... paid a tribute of three hundred and fifty talents. All Phoenicia, Palestine Syria, and Cyprus, were herein contained.

 

[Rigby5]

There was no Palestine. This man is telling the real facts about how the squatters ended up stuck where they are. And where they are belongs to Israel...

Why post such utter nonsense?
Palestinians are referenced before Hebrew, going back to ancient Greek and Egyptian references.
While it is a region and was not made into a country until 1920, it is the only legal country there.
Israel is not a legal country, and its people are European immigrants, not native at all in any way.

 

[Rigby5]

Never existed.

Wrong.
The Canaanites, Chaldeans, Amorites, Phoenicians, Philistine, Urites, Edomites, Nabateans, etc. have all been considered Palestinians for over 3000 years, and are still the 13 million majority there now.

 

[Rigby5]

Anyone who is still at all confused, just read Mark Twain's book, "Innocents Abroad", where he takes a trip to Palestine, and mentions Palestine very frequently.

 

[surada]

There was no Palestine. This man is telling the real facts about how the squatters ended up stuck where they are. And where they are belongs to Israel...

Palestine has been a province of Syria since about 500 BC. Read Herodotus the Greek historian.

 

[surada]

'' Unfortunately, the Philistines were neither Arabs nor Semites (which the current Palestinians certainly claim to be), and the name Palestine was assigned to the region after the Romans put down the Bar Kochba rebellion around A.D. 135.

Tracking the Philistines (Published 2003)

www.nytimes.com

Dumbass...

The Philistines were from the Aegean. The Palestinians are descendants of Canaanites like the Jews, Phoenicians and Palestinians. You're confused.

 

[Shusha]

Wrong.
The Canaanites, Chaldeans, Amorites, Phoenicians, Philistine, Urites, Edomites, Nabateans, etc. have all been considered Palestinians for over 3000 years, and are still the 13 million majority there now.

How would one tell the difference between, say a Canaanite and a Philistine and a modern Palestinian?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Why post such utter nonsense?
Palestinians are referenced before Hebrew, going back to ancient Greek and Egyptian references.
While it is a region and was not made into a country until 1920, it is the only legal country there.
Israel is not a legal country, and its people are European immigrants, not native at all in any way.

The Ottoman Empire controlled the region from 1517 to 1917.
Europeans' reference to the Holy Land as “Palestine” gained greater currency beginning with the Renaissance. Under the Ottoman Empire (1517-1917), the term “Palestine” was used as a general term to describe the land south of Syria; it was not an official designation.

Here's what it looked like:

Where are they? Where are all those Palestinians? Where are all those displaced Palestinians? The land went from the Ottoman Empire to the British Empire. And still no one wanted to live there. You know how many people Samuel Clemens saw when he was there in the 1800's? 1. One nomad passing through.
It was given to the Jews by Britain in that condition in 1948. All of it. Because it was Britain's to give.
Funny, the Arabs didn't give one shit about the land or that dome in 1947...

Israel belongs to the Jews and always will. God's going to see to it...

 

[surada]

How would one tell the difference between, say a Canaanite and a Philistine and a modern Palestinian?

Philistines were Greeks from the Aegean.

 

[surada]

The Ottoman Empire controlled the region from 1517 to 1917.
Europeans' reference to the Holy Land as “Palestine” gained greater currency beginning with the Renaissance. Under the Ottoman Empire (1517-1917), the term “Palestine” was used as a general term to describe the land south of Syria; it was not an official designation.

Here's what it looked like:
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Where are they? Where are all those Palestinians? Where are all those displaced Palestinians? The land went from the Ottoman Empire to the British Empire. And still no one wanted to live there. You know how many people Samuel Clemens saw when he was there in the 1800's? 1. One nomad passing through.
It was given to the Jews by Britain in that condition in 1948. All of it. Because it was Britain's to give.
Funny, the Arabs didn't give one shit about the land or that dome in 1947...

Israel belongs to the Jews and always will. God's going to see to it...

Arabs are out and about in early morning and evening after sundown.

Zionist Aspirations in Palestine - 20.07

Atlantic Unbound: The Atlantic Monthly Magazine Online

www.theatlantic.com

But the Syrian province of Palestine, about one hundred and fifty miles long and fifty miles broad, largely mountainous and sterile, contains at present a population of more than 650,000, divided as follows: Mohammedan Arabs, 515,000; Jews, 63,000; Christian Arabs, 62,000; nomadic Bedouins, 50,000; unclassified, 5000. Of these the Mohammedans and Christians are to a man bitterly opposed to any Zionist claims, whether made by would-be rulers or by settlers. It may not be generally known, but a goodly number of the Jewish dwellers in the land are not anxious to see a large immigration into the country. This is partly due to the fear that the result of such immigration would be an overcrowding of the industrial and agricultural market; but a number of the more respectable older settlers have been disgusted by the recent arrivals in Palestine of their coreligionists, unhappy individuals from Russia and Roumania brought in under the auspices of the Zionist Commission from the cities of Southeastern Europe, and neither able nor willing to work at agriculture or fruit-farming.