Here is my question to Senate Repubs

Members of the POT (party of Trump) and their right wing media cohorts are free to express their opinion that the impeachment inquiry is a sham. But those allegations don't change the constitutional authority given to the House committees to lawfully conduct it. So riddle me this.
We know for an absolute certainty Trump has obstructed the inquiry by refusing to release requested documents and by ordering that subpoenaed witnesses not testify. Therefore, we know one of the articles of impeachment will include a charge of obstruction.
Senate Repubs can disingenuously claim the extortion of Ukraine does not, in their minds, rise to the level of an impeachable offense. But how will they get around the fact Trump has obstructed the inquiry?

As an aside, it should be noted the Trump admin may open itself up to the commission of another impeachable offense. The hypocritical Trump lackey known as Lindsey Graham has requested from the State Dept. documents pertaining to Joe Biden's activities with respect to the US government's demands the corrupt prosecutor Shokin be removed from office because he refused to prosecute cases of corruption in Ukraine. If the admin acquiesces to this request while blocking the release of documents sought by the House Intel Committee in the course of its impeachment inquiry it runs the risk of being charged with selectively releasing documents for investigations it favors. Representing yet another abuse of power.

You can't charge a President with obstruction when he exercises his Executive Privilege outlined in the Constitution. The commies in the House do not run the entire government, and get what they want by demands.
There is no dispute over whether there is a right for the prez to claim EP regarding certain conversations. But this bogus claim of absolute immunity for members of the admin to keep them from testifying is unprecedented and non-existent. Simply put, there is no such thing. Nixon found that out when the SC unanimously ruled Congress had the right to get the tapes.

Fine, then let the commies take it to court and see what happens. The Nixon tapes were not a witch hunt for political purposes. It was evidence of criminal activity. The only reason the commies want members of Trump's staff to testify is to attempt to setup a perjury trap.
 
It should also be noted that when Mike Pompeo was heading up one of the Benghazi Inquiries, he demanded tens of thousands of documents from the State Department, and then castigated Hillary Clinton's State Department for not producing the documents fast enough, and threatened to charge the Obama Administration with Obstruction of Congress, because they took too long.

Pompeo's State Department has refused to turn over a single document and has tried to block staff from testifying.
No doubt the hypocrisy of Repubs is just stunning. There are no shortage of examples from Pompeo, Graham, Gowdy, Jordan, etc.
There's going to be a ruling on the McGahn case on Monday. I don't see how the court can rule he will not be compelled to testify unless the decision is left to Trump appointees. Once the ruling is made it gives the obstruction charge even more substantive legal backing. It is not disputable that Trump has obstructed a fully authorized impeachment inquiry...........just as Nixon did. It only takes one count of the articles of impeachment to pass to remove the prez. I don't see how the Repubs can vote against the charge of obstruction without twisting themselves in knots.

The Democrats will never see 67 Senate votes on this matter.

They know that well ahead of time. But the Democrats also understand they have zero chance of winning the next election, so this is their desperate attempt to try and tarnish Trump's name in effort to win.
 
The real question...the democrats won't control the Senate Hearing....the Republicans can call whoever they want and will question them under oath on live television.....joe biden, adam schiff, hunter biden, the whistle blower.....and any other number of people who won't do well under oath.....do the democrats really want to expose themselves like that?
 
Republicans really are stupid, no other explanation. They let Hillary and Comey get walk.

James "Q" Comey gets a big hoot when we listen to him telling us about "the Plan"
 
The real question...the democrats won't control the Senate Hearing....the Republicans can call whoever they want and will question them under oath on live television.....joe biden, adam schiff, hunter biden, the whistle blower.....and any other number of people who won't do well under oath.....do the democrats really want to expose themselves like that?
That is the Democrats delima.

The MSM won't be able to bail them out.
 
The real question...the democrats won't control the Senate Hearing....the Republicans can call whoever they want and will question them under oath on live television.....joe biden, adam schiff, hunter biden, the whistle blower.....and any other number of people who won't do well under oath.....do the democrats really want to expose themselves like that?

That's what most of us thought. But check out the Laura show last night, and click on the 13 minute mark and watch from there.

insolito
 
Members of the POT (party of Trump) and their right wing media cohorts are free to express their opinion that the impeachment inquiry is a sham. But those allegations don't change the constitutional authority given to the House committees to lawfully conduct it. So riddle me this.
We know for an absolute certainty Trump has obstructed the inquiry by refusing to release requested documents and by ordering that subpoenaed witnesses not testify. Therefore, we know one of the articles of impeachment will include a charge of obstruction.
Senate Repubs can disingenuously claim the extortion of Ukraine does not, in their minds, rise to the level of an impeachable offense. But how will they get around the fact Trump has obstructed the inquiry?

As an aside, it should be noted the Trump admin may open itself up to the commission of another impeachable offense. The hypocritical Trump lackey known as Lindsey Graham has requested from the State Dept. documents pertaining to Joe Biden's activities with respect to the US government's demands the corrupt prosecutor Shokin be removed from office because he refused to prosecute cases of corruption in Ukraine. If the admin acquiesces to this request while blocking the release of documents sought by the House Intel Committee in the course of its impeachment inquiry it runs the risk of being charged with selectively releasing documents for investigations it favors. Representing yet another abuse of power.

You can't charge a President with obstruction when he exercises his Executive Privilege outlined in the Constitution. The commies in the House do not run the entire government, and get what they want by demands.

Trump doesn't have "executive privilege" as a blanket defence. The Constitution mandates oversight, and it also mandates that the Executive Branch must submit to Congressional oversight. Trump doesn't get to decide that his decisions can't be questioned. He is not an absolute ruler.

Trump runs the executive branch of government. Through the separation of powers, he has the exclusive right to keep executive matters out of the public eye, and yes, even Congress. Piglosi won't even bother taking this to court, and in public, admitted as such. She would have no case.

Congress does have oversight, but they do not have the right to invade and reveal executive matters.
Nope.

"The term executive privilege was not used until the 1950s. The doctrine’s contours were unclear until a 1974 Supreme Court ruling. In the case U.S. v. Nixon, President Richard Nixon was ordered to deliver tapes and other subpoenaed materials to a federal judge for review. The justices ruled 9-0 that a president’s right to privacy in his communications must be balanced against the authority of Congress to investigate and oversee the executive branch.

The U.S. v. Nixon ruling is also widely understood to mean that executive privilege cannot be used to cover up wrongdoing.
That view was endorsed by current U.S. Attorney General William Barr during his Senate confirmation hearing."
Explainer: Can Trump use executive privilege to block congressional probes?
 
My question is how someone as utterly retarded as these bed wetting liberal pieces of shit manage to evade natural selection that long.

/ignored


.

You can't answer, can you.

You are in denial because that's all that's left.
 
Members of the POT (party of Trump) and their right wing media cohorts are free to express their opinion that the impeachment inquiry is a sham. But those allegations don't change the constitutional authority given to the House committees to lawfully conduct it. So riddle me this.
We know for an absolute certainty Trump has obstructed the inquiry by refusing to release requested documents and by ordering that subpoenaed witnesses not testify. Therefore, we know one of the articles of impeachment will include a charge of obstruction.
Senate Repubs can disingenuously claim the extortion of Ukraine does not, in their minds, rise to the level of an impeachable offense. But how will they get around the fact Trump has obstructed the inquiry?

As an aside, it should be noted the Trump admin may open itself up to the commission of another impeachable offense. The hypocritical Trump lackey known as Lindsey Graham has requested from the State Dept. documents pertaining to Joe Biden's activities with respect to the US government's demands the corrupt prosecutor Shokin be removed from office because he refused to prosecute cases of corruption in Ukraine. If the admin acquiesces to this request while blocking the release of documents sought by the House Intel Committee in the course of its impeachment inquiry it runs the risk of being charged with selectively releasing documents for investigations it favors. Representing yet another abuse of power.

You can't charge a President with obstruction when he exercises his Executive Privilege outlined in the Constitution. The commies in the House do not run the entire government, and get what they want by demands.
Executive privilege doesn't apply to hiding crimes.
 
It should also be noted that when Mike Pompeo was heading up one of the Benghazi Inquiries, he demanded tens of thousands of documents from the State Department, and then castigated Hillary Clinton's State Department for not producing the documents fast enough, and threatened to charge the Obama Administration with Obstruction of Congress, because they took too long.

Pompeo's State Department has refused to turn over a single document and has tried to block staff from testifying.
Hillary was not president and when it comes to "not producing the documents fast enough", she fucking bleach-bitted 33,000 emails. Yeah, we know, they were all about Chelsea's wedding and yoga lessons.
Fake news. Please stop spreading debunked conspiracy theories. It makes you look stupid.
 
It should also be noted that when Mike Pompeo was heading up one of the Benghazi Inquiries, he demanded tens of thousands of documents from the State Department, and then castigated Hillary Clinton's State Department for not producing the documents fast enough, and threatened to charge the Obama Administration with Obstruction of Congress, because they took too long.

Pompeo's State Department has refused to turn over a single document and has tried to block staff from testifying.
Hillary was not president and when it comes to "not producing the documents fast enough", she fucking bleach-bitted 33,000 emails. Yeah, we know, they were all about Chelsea's wedding and yoga lessons.
Fake news. Please stop spreading debunked conspiracy theories. It makes you look stupid.
Eh?
 
But how will they get around the fact Trump has obstructed the inquiry?

There is no crime when one is obstructing or opposing Liberals, Progressive or Democrats by any or all means
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Members of the POT (party of Trump) and their right wing media cohorts are free to express their opinion that the impeachment inquiry is a sham. But those allegations don't change the constitutional authority given to the House committees to lawfully conduct it. So riddle me this.
We know for an absolute certainty Trump has obstructed the inquiry by refusing to release requested documents and by ordering that subpoenaed witnesses not testify. Therefore, we know one of the articles of impeachment will include a charge of obstruction.
Senate Repubs can disingenuously claim the extortion of Ukraine does not, in their minds, rise to the level of an impeachable offense. But how will they get around the fact Trump has obstructed the inquiry?

As an aside, it should be noted the Trump admin may open itself up to the commission of another impeachable offense. The hypocritical Trump lackey known as Lindsey Graham has requested from the State Dept. documents pertaining to Joe Biden's activities with respect to the US government's demands the corrupt prosecutor Shokin be removed from office because he refused to prosecute cases of corruption in Ukraine. If the admin acquiesces to this request while blocking the release of documents sought by the House Intel Committee in the course of its impeachment inquiry it runs the risk of being charged with selectively releasing documents for investigations it favors. Representing yet another abuse of power.

You can't charge a President with obstruction when he exercises his Executive Privilege outlined in the Constitution. The commies in the House do not run the entire government, and get what they want by demands.

Yes "you"*** can charge a President in an article of impeachment for obstruction of justice.

***The Congress can and will add examples of Obstruction of Justice in the Articles of Impeachment.
 
I have a simple litmus test for how seriously one really feels about this impeachment inquiry and how much you are just being a blind partisan. If everything was the same except the President being investigated was a Democrat and it was a Republican controlled House doing the impeachment inquiry would you still support it and if you are on the right would you still oppose it? For the record I feel this impeachment attempt is a total sham and is being doen simply because the Democrats did not get what they wanted with the Mueller investigation and if this was a Democrat President and Republican controlled House doing this I would feel the same way. Impeachment is a drastic and serious matter and should not used in a light hearted and trivial manner the way it is being used here I will remind the left this will not end when Trump leaves office one day the precedent that has been set by the Democrats with this attempted impeachment will be used against a Democrat President.
 
It should also be noted that when Mike Pompeo was heading up one of the Benghazi Inquiries, he demanded tens of thousands of documents from the State Department, and then castigated Hillary Clinton's State Department for not producing the documents fast enough, and threatened to charge the Obama Administration with Obstruction of Congress, because they took too long.

Pompeo's State Department has refused to turn over a single document and has tried to block staff from testifying.
Hillary was not president and when it comes to "not producing the documents fast enough", she fucking bleach-bitted 33,000 emails. Yeah, we know, they were all about Chelsea's wedding and yoga lessons.
Fake news. Please stop spreading debunked conspiracy theories. It makes you look stupid.
Eh?
To many long words for ya?
 
Members of the POT (party of Trump) and their right wing media cohorts are free to express their opinion that the impeachment inquiry is a sham. But those allegations don't change the constitutional authority given to the House committees to lawfully conduct it. So riddle me this.
We know for an absolute certainty Trump has obstructed the inquiry by refusing to release requested documents and by ordering that subpoenaed witnesses not testify. Therefore, we know one of the articles of impeachment will include a charge of obstruction.
Senate Repubs can disingenuously claim the extortion of Ukraine does not, in their minds, rise to the level of an impeachable offense. But how will they get around the fact Trump has obstructed the inquiry?

As an aside, it should be noted the Trump admin may open itself up to the commission of another impeachable offense. The hypocritical Trump lackey known as Lindsey Graham has requested from the State Dept. documents pertaining to Joe Biden's activities with respect to the US government's demands the corrupt prosecutor Shokin be removed from office because he refused to prosecute cases of corruption in Ukraine. If the admin acquiesces to this request while blocking the release of documents sought by the House Intel Committee in the course of its impeachment inquiry it runs the risk of being charged with selectively releasing documents for investigations it favors. Representing yet another abuse of power.

You can't charge a President with obstruction when he exercises his Executive Privilege outlined in the Constitution. The commies in the House do not run the entire government, and get what they want by demands.
Executive privilege doesn't apply to hiding crimes.

Nobody is hiding anything. Show me where anybody in the Trump administration demonstrated criminal activity.
 
It should also be noted that when Mike Pompeo was heading up one of the Benghazi Inquiries, he demanded tens of thousands of documents from the State Department, and then castigated Hillary Clinton's State Department for not producing the documents fast enough, and threatened to charge the Obama Administration with Obstruction of Congress, because they took too long.

Pompeo's State Department has refused to turn over a single document and has tried to block staff from testifying.
No doubt the hypocrisy of Repubs is just stunning. There are no shortage of examples from Pompeo, Graham, Gowdy, Jordan, etc.
There's going to be a ruling on the McGahn case on Monday. I don't see how the court can rule he will not be compelled to testify unless the decision is left to Trump appointees. Once the ruling is made it gives the obstruction charge even more substantive legal backing. It is not disputable that Trump has obstructed a fully authorized impeachment inquiry...........just as Nixon did. It only takes one count of the articles of impeachment to pass to remove the prez. I don't see how the Repubs can vote against the charge of obstruction without twisting themselves in knots.

The Democrats will never see 67 Senate votes on this matter.
Not only that but a lot of Dems will be ruined as information on the money laundering in Ukraine comes out.
The senate will be allowed to actually call witnesses and ask questions of all witnesses. It will not be the narrow Schiff circus that it was in the house.

The information on money laundering in the Ukraine has already come out. It was called the "Black Ledger". Paul Manafort's name appear next to millions of dollars of payments. That was the damaging information that came out during the campaign that caused Trump to fire Manafort.

Trump is part of what Trump calls the "Ukrainian effort to undermine his candidacy". Trump is only in favour of people finding corruption that doesn't involve his friends.
 
Republicans really are stupid, no other explanation. They let Hillary and Comey get walk.

James "Q" Comey gets a big hoot when we listen to him telling us about "the Plan"


Just hold your fire. Comey and Hillary will make great witnesses against Obama when they flip to save their own asses.
 
Members of the POT (party of Trump) and their right wing media cohorts are free to express their opinion that the impeachment inquiry is a sham. But those allegations don't change the constitutional authority given to the House committees to lawfully conduct it. So riddle me this.
We know for an absolute certainty Trump has obstructed the inquiry by refusing to release requested documents and by ordering that subpoenaed witnesses not testify. Therefore, we know one of the articles of impeachment will include a charge of obstruction.
Senate Repubs can disingenuously claim the extortion of Ukraine does not, in their minds, rise to the level of an impeachable offense. But how will they get around the fact Trump has obstructed the inquiry?

As an aside, it should be noted the Trump admin may open itself up to the commission of another impeachable offense. The hypocritical Trump lackey known as Lindsey Graham has requested from the State Dept. documents pertaining to Joe Biden's activities with respect to the US government's demands the corrupt prosecutor Shokin be removed from office because he refused to prosecute cases of corruption in Ukraine. If the admin acquiesces to this request while blocking the release of documents sought by the House Intel Committee in the course of its impeachment inquiry it runs the risk of being charged with selectively releasing documents for investigations it favors. Representing yet another abuse of power.

You can't charge a President with obstruction when he exercises his Executive Privilege outlined in the Constitution. The commies in the House do not run the entire government, and get what they want by demands.

Trump doesn't have "executive privilege" as a blanket defence. The Constitution mandates oversight, and it also mandates that the Executive Branch must submit to Congressional oversight. Trump doesn't get to decide that his decisions can't be questioned. He is not an absolute ruler.

Trump runs the executive branch of government. Through the separation of powers, he has the exclusive right to keep executive matters out of the public eye, and yes, even Congress. Piglosi won't even bother taking this to court, and in public, admitted as such. She would have no case.

Congress does have oversight, but they do not have the right to invade and reveal executive matters.
Nope.

"The term executive privilege was not used until the 1950s. The doctrine’s contours were unclear until a 1974 Supreme Court ruling. In the case U.S. v. Nixon, President Richard Nixon was ordered to deliver tapes and other subpoenaed materials to a federal judge for review. The justices ruled 9-0 that a president’s right to privacy in his communications must be balanced against the authority of Congress to investigate and oversee the executive branch.

The U.S. v. Nixon ruling is also widely understood to mean that executive privilege cannot be used to cover up wrongdoing.
That view was endorsed by current U.S. Attorney General William Barr during his Senate confirmation hearing."
Explainer: Can Trump use executive privilege to block congressional probes?

Read it again, it said evidence to be delivered to a judge for review, not an open House looking for a crime that isn't there.
 

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