Hebrew bible and the Art of Negotiation. If Arabs were as smart as the children of Gad and Reuben

[rylah]

Just imagine if Arabs were to support Israel instead of oppose it at the expense of all.
The thing is, if they said: "let's support You in Your struggle for Your homeland Israel, if anything You are the ones who can assure us the most prosperity and territory", we would all be already living sparsely, each in a vila with their herd.

But the Jihadis and their enablers fight Israel knowingly, that given the chance, they'd turn it into another middle eastern 3-world country.

 

[Bleipriester]

I partly agree. What does Syria have to do with the blackbeards of the Hamas? They are enemies. Nevertheless, Syria is in support of some "Palestinian cause", even when only voiced. This only reduces the prospects of peace and normal relationship with Israel. Relationships with the Palestinians on the other hand are simply fruitless.
Time to adopt a proper policy.

 

[Ecocertifmrl]

GAD!

I said it well

GAD!!

I said it well again.

 

[Sunni Man]

The jew cries out in pain as he stabs you in the back.

old proverb......

 

[Sixties Fan]

The jew cries out in pain as he stabs you in the back.

old proverb......

Yes, from some Jew Hating Polish Christian.

Christian = Jew Hating
Poland = Jew Hating

All learned from the cradle of Christianity

Don't look now......but every time Jews were expelled from one country or another.......that country suffered an economic decline.....


Just saying.....

 

[Sunni Man]

Don't look now......but every time Jews were expelled from one country or another.......that country suffered an economic decline.

The juden were driven out because they had caused the economic decline.

And cleansing the country of them was the first step to economic recovery. ...

 

[Sixties Fan]

Don't look now......but every time Jews were expelled from one country or another.......that country suffered an economic decline.

The juden were driven out because they had caused the economic decline.

And cleansing the country of them was the first step to economic recovery. ...

WAIT.... in which possible way can I laugh my head off at this



The 1492 Expulsion of the Jews Was a Disaster for Spain

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Nine years had hardly passed since the expulsion of 1306 when Louis X of France(1314–16) recalled the Jews. In an edict dated 28 July 1315, he permitted them to return for a period of twelve years, authorizing them to establish themselves in the cities in which they had lived before their banishment. He issued this edict in answer to the demands of the people. Geoffrey of Paris, the popular poet of the time, says in fact that the Jews were gentle in comparison with the Christians who had taken their place, and who had flayed their debtors alive; if the Jews had remained, the country would have been happier; for there were no longer any moneylenders at all (Bouquet, xxii. 118). The king probably had the interests of his treasury also in view. The profits of the former confiscations had gone into the treasury, and by recalling the Jews for only twelve years he would have an opportunity for ransoming them at the end of this period. It appears that they gave the sum of 122,500 livres for the privilege of returning.
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In the beginning of the 17th century Jews began again to re-enter France. This resulted in a new edict of 23 April 1615[35] which forbade Christians, under the penalty of death and confiscation, to shelter Jews or to converse with them.

Alsace and Lorraine were the home of a significant number of Jews. In annexing the provinces in 1648, Louis XIV was at first inclined toward the banishment of Jews living in those provinces, but thought better of it in view of the benefit he could derive from them. On 25 September 1675, he granted these Jews letters patent, taking them under his special protection. This, however, did not prevent them from being subjected to every kind of extortion, and their position remained the same as it had been under the Austrian government.

History of the Jews in France - Wikipedia


Now, again.....please tell us how much you know about Jews and why they were expelled.......which is

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC

(Start your own thread on why Jews were expelled from all the countries where they lived.......and do not fail to mention what Christians learned about Jews from the Gospels and how they made hatred of Jews all of their own.......only to be almost outdone by Islam and their copied hatred of Jews )

 

[Sunni Man]

109 Locations whence Jews have been Expelled since AD250

YEAR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PLACE

250 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Carthage
415 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alexandria
554 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocèse of Clermont (France)
561 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocèse of Uzès (France)
612 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Spain
642 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Empire
855 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
876 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sens
1012 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany
1276 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Upper Bavaria
1290 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - England
1306 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1322 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France (again)
1348 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Switzerland
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hielbronn (Germany)
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Saxony
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1360 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1370 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Belgium
1380 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1388 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1420 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lyons
1421 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Fribourg
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Zurich
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cologne
1432 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Savoy
1438 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1439 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Augsburg
1442 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1444 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1446 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Breslau
1454 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1462 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1483 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1484 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1485 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vincenza (Italy)
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spain
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
1495 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Portugal
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nuremberg
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Navarre
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenberg
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prussia
1514 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1515 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1519 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Regensburg
1533 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1541 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1542 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague & Bohemia
1550 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1551 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1555 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pesaro
1557 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1559 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria
1561 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1567 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1569 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Papal States
1571 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1593 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg, Austria
1597 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cremona, Pavia & Lodi
1614 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frankfort
1615 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Worms
1619 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kiev
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ukraine
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Poland
1649 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hamburg
1654 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1656 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Oran (North Africa)
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1670 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1712 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sandomir
1727 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1738 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurtemburg
1740 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague, Bohemia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Livonia
1745 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moravia
1753 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kovad (Lithuania)
1761 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bordeaux
1772 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia)
1775 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1789 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alsace
1804 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages in Russia
1808 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages & Countrysides (Russia)
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lbeck & Bremen
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria
1820 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bremen
1843 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russian Border Austria & Prussia
1862 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Areas in the U.S. under General Grant's jurisdiction during the Civil war.

1866 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Galatz, Romania
1880s - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1891 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moscow
1919 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria (foreign born Jews)
1938-45 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nazi Controlled Areas
1948 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Arab Countries

109 Locations whence Jews have been Expelled since AD250

 

[Sixties Fan]

109 Locations whence Jews have been Expelled since AD250

YEAR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PLACE

250 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Carthage
415 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alexandria
554 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocèse of Clermont (France)
561 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocèse of Uzès (France)
612 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Spain
642 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Empire
855 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
876 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sens
1012 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany
1276 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Upper Bavaria
1290 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - England
1306 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1322 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France (again)
1348 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Switzerland
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hielbronn (Germany)
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Saxony
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1360 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1370 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Belgium
1380 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1388 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1420 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lyons
1421 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Fribourg
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Zurich
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cologne
1432 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Savoy
1438 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1439 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Augsburg
1442 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1444 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1446 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Breslau
1454 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1462 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1483 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1484 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1485 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vincenza (Italy)
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spain
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
1495 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Portugal
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nuremberg
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Navarre
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenberg
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prussia
1514 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1515 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1519 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Regensburg
1533 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1541 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1542 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague & Bohemia
1550 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1551 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1555 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pesaro
1557 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1559 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria
1561 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1567 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1569 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Papal States
1571 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1593 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg, Austria
1597 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cremona, Pavia & Lodi
1614 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frankfort
1615 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Worms
1619 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kiev
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ukraine
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Poland
1649 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hamburg
1654 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1656 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Oran (North Africa)
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1670 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1712 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sandomir
1727 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1738 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurtemburg
1740 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague, Bohemia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Livonia
1745 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moravia
1753 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kovad (Lithuania)
1761 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bordeaux
1772 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia)
1775 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1789 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alsace
1804 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages in Russia
1808 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages & Countrysides (Russia)
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lbeck & Bremen
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria
1820 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bremen
1843 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russian Border Austria & Prussia
1862 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Areas in the U.S. under General Grant's jurisdiction during the Civil war.

1866 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Galatz, Romania
1880s - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1891 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moscow
1919 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria (foreign born Jews)
1938-45 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nazi Controlled Areas
1948 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Arab Countries

109 Locations whence Jews have been Expelled since AD250

You are TOTALLY off topic

All in your list were from learned Christian and Muslim hatred of Jews.

Without that hatred, as in before Christianity or Islam, those expulsions did not happen.

Not for Jesus and and not for Allah, as there was no Christianity or Islam to teach their followers all the nonsense they were taught about Judaism and Jews.

Now, let me laugh some more

 

[Sunni Man]

All in your list were from learned Christian and Muslim hatred of Jews.
Without that hatred, as in before Christianity or Islam, those expulsions did not happen.
Not for Jesus and and not for Allah, as there was no Christianity or Islam to teach their followers all the nonsense they were taught about Judaism and Jews.

The juden were expelled and driven out of many countries for their obnoxious attitude and criminal behavior long before there were either Christians or Muslims on the earth. Even their holy book the Torah tells about the jews being forced from their homes and driven away. All the juden do is create problems where ever they reside. Nobody wants to live around them. ..

 

[Sixties Fan]

All in your list were from learned Christian and Muslim hatred of Jews.
Without that hatred, as in before Christianity or Islam, those expulsions did not happen.
Not for Jesus and and not for Allah, as there was no Christianity or Islam to teach their followers all the nonsense they were taught about Judaism and Jews.

The juden were expelled and driven out of countries for their obnoxious attitude and criminal behavior long before there were either Christians or Muslims on the earth. Even their holy book the Torah tells about the jews being forced from their homes and driven away. All the juden do is create problems where ever they reside. Nobody wants to live around them. ..

Is that so?

Now, why did you not post a list of all of those expulsions of the Jews (do not count the Exodus, please ) before Christianity and Islam in Asia, or Africa?

I'll play.....

 

[Sunni Man]

My humane final solution to the centuries old Jewish problem.

Would be to round up all Jews world wide, and find an island to quarantine them on.

There are several small islands in the world that could easily contain the 14 million Jews that currently reside in various nations and Israel.

This way the Jews could build the ultimate Hebrew society they have always dreamed of without interference, or neighbors wanting to attack them.

Several international gun boats would patrol the waters around the island to prevent any members of the Tribe from trying to escape their Jewish island paradise.

This way the Jews would be protected from harm; and the world would finally have peace and security.

An equitable Win = Win solution for both Jews and Gentiles. .....

 

[member]

I partly agree. What does Syria have to do with the blackbeards of the Hamas? They are enemies. Nevertheless, Syria is in support of some "Palestinian cause", even when only voiced. This only reduces the prospects of peace and normal relationship with Israel. Relationships with the Palestinians on the other hand are simply fruitless.
Time to adopt a proper policy.

"...Relationships with the Palestinians on the other hand are simply fruitless..."




definitely -- they are lead by terrorists. where there are terrorists, there is no peace. that's the bottom line.



...terrorists [whatever rock the live under] need to be.............gone from the picture. i hope they find God and turn their lives around for good...........




or are all ............. rooted out and put away for life.....

 

[Ecocertifmrl]

My humane final solution to the centuries old Jewish problem.

Would be to round up all Jews world wide, and find an island to quarantine them on.

There are several small islands in the world that could easily contain the 14 million Jews that currently reside in various nations and Israel.

This way the Jews could build the ultimate Hebrew society they have always dreamed of without interference, or neighbors wanting to attack them.

Several international gun boats would patrol the waters around the island to prevent any members of the Tribe from trying to escape their Jewish island paradise.

This way the Jews would be protected from harm; and the world would finally have peace and security.

An equitable Win = Win solution for both Jews and Gentiles. .....

How would the emperors of this paradise have their ego inhale if they can't keep killing muslims?

 

[Shusha]

My humane final solution to the centuries old Jewish problem.

Would be to round up all Jews world wide, and find an island to quarantine them on.

There are several small islands in the world that could easily contain the 14 million Jews that currently reside in various nations and Israel.

This way the Jews could build the ultimate Hebrew society they have always dreamed of without interference, or neighbors wanting to attack them.

Several international gun boats would patrol the waters around the island to prevent any members of the Tribe from trying to escape their Jewish island paradise.

This way the Jews would be protected from harm; and the world would finally have peace and security.

An equitable Win = Win solution for both Jews and Gentiles. .....

Did this really just happen? Did someone just suggest we ghettoize the entire Jewish people?

 

[Sunni Man]

Did this really just happen? Did someone just suggest we ghettoize the entire Jewish people?

I fail to see the problem?? ...

The jewish people have chosen to live in ghetto's for centuries. So why wouldn't they want to continue that time honored tradition? ...

 

[Sixties Fan]

My humane final solution to the centuries old Jewish problem.

Would be to round up all Jews world wide, and find an island to quarantine them on.

There are several small islands in the world that could easily contain the 14 million Jews that currently reside in various nations and Israel.

This way the Jews could build the ultimate Hebrew society they have always dreamed of without interference, or neighbors wanting to attack them.

Several international gun boats would patrol the waters around the island to prevent any members of the Tribe from trying to escape their Jewish island paradise.

This way the Jews would be protected from harm; and the world would finally have peace and security.

An equitable Win = Win solution for both Jews and Gentiles. .....

Did this really just happen? Did someone just suggest we ghettoize the entire Jewish people?

Yeap, someone was going to have to do it at some point.

Are we awarding prizes for the first one, or waiting to see who comes with a better idea?

 

[Shusha]

Did this really just happen? Did someone just suggest we ghettoize the entire Jewish people?

I fail to see the problem?? ...

The jewish people have chosen to live in ghetto's for centuries. So why wouldn't they want to continue that time honored tradition? ...

One would THINK if the Jewish people chose such a thing, you wouldn't need to suggest an international (!) military force to keep them in.

 

[Shusha]

Yeap, someone was going to have to do it at some point.

Are we awarding prizes for the first one, or waiting to see who comes with a better idea?

Well, we haven't heard from Penny yet, so I think we should hold off on the assignment of the award.

 

[Hollie]

Did this really just happen? Did someone just suggest we ghettoize the entire Jewish people?

I fail to see the problem?? ...

The jewish people have chosen to live in ghetto's for centuries. So why wouldn't they want to continue that time honored tradition? ...

Failure is your choice.

As a goofy convert who was born and raised in the Great Satan, you have had all the benefits this nation has to offer and have never known hardship as other have.

Now, put on your kuffar air Jordan sneakers, drive to the kuffar Starbucks in your kuffar Chevy and do your best impression of “I’m a boiling cauldron of repressed rage so would you mind taking me seriously, just this once?”

True story ...