Health bill prevents asking if citizen

[The T]

No one seems able to post the text of this amendment and I can't find it anywhere. I do think what you've said is probably true...there's something wrong with punishing real citizens dying and bleeding in the ER by making them cough up their citizenship papers.

That said, Medicare has requirements that verify citizenship and there is no reason to believe a public option would not operate in a similar manner.

Cripes, I've posted this thing so many times. Here:

http://blog.heritage.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/heller-6.pdf


Everyone read this, will ya?

Among three House committees to pass bills for health reform, only one expressly bans federal funding for proving health coverage to illegal immigrants.

"The Congressional Research Service has indicated that indeed the bills that are before Congress would include illegal aliens," Wilson said. "And I think this is wrong."

Indeed, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service study found that the House health care bill does not restrict illegal immigrants from receiving health care coverage.

House Republican Minority Leader John Boehner amplified the complaint that without proof of citizenship, illegal immigrants could be insured.

"There were two opportunities for House Democrats to make clear that illegal immigrants wouldn't be covered by putting in requirements to show citizenships," he said. "Both of those amendments were, in fact, rejected."

In the Senate, Democrats in the so called "Gang of Six," a group of bipartisan senators on the Senate Finance Committee which is the last panel yet to release its bill, began moving quickly to close the loophole that Wilson helped bring greater attention to.

Rep. Wilson Outburst Leads Senate Dems to Close Loophole in Health Reform Bill - Political News - FOXNews.com


The Dems twice shot down amendments to close the loophole. They didn't want anyone to bitch about it because they want illegals to get coverage so when they're fast tracked to citizens they'll vote Dem. Is this really so hard for everyone?

It is if you agree with the DemocRATS policies. Blame, Minimize, Deny, Obfuscate are the MO of Elites...Remember this.

 

[oreo]

Here is the link for all YOU believers in Barack Obama--

It is clear that under section 1702 of HR3200--under expanded Medicade programs--there is "restrictions on asking about immigration status.

THIS IS WHY JOE WILSON LOST IT THE OTHER NIGHT & CALLED OBAMA A LIAR.

READ IT

HR3200 and Illegal Immigrants…America BEING SNOOKERED! at Desert Conservative

Because of Joe Wilson's outburst the other night regarding the above "linked" article--the gang of 6 a bipartisan Senate group added stricter language to section 1702 of HR3200--this after House democrats voted AGAINST adding stricker language to prevent illegals from getting expanded benefits under Medicade.

Kind of hard to believe that the person you elected to be POTUS lied to you isn't it? But he did. But for you liberals living in Obama fantasy land who want to keep that beautiful fantasy going--what ever you do--do not read about section 1702.

 

[REVxERIK]

Here is the link for all YOU believers in Barack Obama--

It is clear that under section 1702 of HR3200--under expanded Medicade programs--there is "restrictions on asking about immigration status.

THIS IS WHY JOE WILSON LOST IT THE OTHER NIGHT & CALLED OBAMA A LIAR.

READ IT

HR3200 and Illegal Immigrants…America BEING SNOOKERED! at Desert Conservative

Because of Joe Wilson's outburst the other night regarding the above "linked" article--the gang of 6 a bipartisan Senate group added stricter language to section 1702 of HR3200--this after House democrats voted AGAINST adding stricker language to prevent illegals from getting expanded benefits under Medicade.

Kind of hard to believe that the person you elected to be POTUS lied to you isn't it? But he did. But for you liberals living in Obama fantasy land who want to keep that beautiful fantasy going--what ever you do--do not read about section 1702.

you're right i won't read ABOUT section 1702, ill just read IT.

DOn't go for articles about it, go read it yourself

 

[REVxERIK]

Here is the link for all YOU believers in Barack Obama--

It is clear that under section 1702 of HR3200--under expanded Medicade programs--there is "restrictions on asking about immigration status.

THIS IS WHY JOE WILSON LOST IT THE OTHER NIGHT & CALLED OBAMA A LIAR.

READ IT

HR3200 and Illegal Immigrants…America BEING SNOOKERED! at Desert Conservative

Because of Joe Wilson's outburst the other night regarding the above "linked" article--the gang of 6 a bipartisan Senate group added stricter language to section 1702 of HR3200--this after House democrats voted AGAINST adding stricker language to prevent illegals from getting expanded benefits under Medicade.

Kind of hard to believe that the person you elected to be POTUS lied to you isn't it? But he did. But for you liberals living in Obama fantasy land who want to keep that beautiful fantasy going--what ever you do--do not read about section 1702.

a conservative site calling a liberal a liar?! unheard of!

 

[Care4all]

make that "free" emergency care and you are closer to being accurate.

Well, whether legal or illegal, female or male, old or young....with money or without money, WILL BE TREATED if they are sick or injured by Hospital emergency rooms.

The Hospital will try to get money from all of these people that have had to use the emergency room all year whether legal or illegal makes no difference...it's up to the Hospital how far they pursue this money owed them.

Even with insurance, there is no guarantee the Hospital will be paid....my insurance denied most everything...SHOULD THAT have stopped the hospital from treating me at the time or with the continued follow up treatment?

The Hospital will get what money it can get, on any of their services, insured or not insured....what they can't collect, they SELL off to credit/collection agencies for half the price or so, then the collection agency goes after the patient and so on and so forth....

there is a whole business of a crap load of people working in this kind of Hospital collection thingy....I was amazed at the maze i had to go through to come to any kind of settlement for the bill that the PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANY -CIGNA refused to pay because of a small technical reason of how it was filed by the Hospital.

Care

They use Aliases. Who are you trying to kid? Who do you think currently pays for their care? Can't even get an honest count on how many are here. Ever stop to think that you are bought and paid for?

so they are using aliases now, and we are paying all of their care through the costly emergency rooms, and have been paying it through the entire Bush Presidency and Republican control for 12 straight years of congress at the minimum, and NOW you are worried about obama's plan reducing the cost burden on us of these illegal folks??

Just PLAIN NUTS

 

[WillowTree]

yep just plain nuts we are for complaining and expecting different. Some hospitals gone bankrupt, Er's shut down hell whole states are going bankrupt form the burden of providing for illegals at the expense of the American citizen.. and we are just plain nuts for objecting.. got it.

 

[The T]

Here is the link for all YOU believers in Barack Obama--

It is clear that under section 1702 of HR3200--under expanded Medicade programs--there is "restrictions on asking about immigration status.

THIS IS WHY JOE WILSON LOST IT THE OTHER NIGHT & CALLED OBAMA A LIAR.

READ IT

HR3200 and Illegal Immigrants…America BEING SNOOKERED! at Desert Conservative

Because of Joe Wilson's outburst the other night regarding the above "linked" article--the gang of 6 a bipartisan Senate group added stricter language to section 1702 of HR3200--this after House democrats voted AGAINST adding stricker language to prevent illegals from getting expanded benefits under Medicade.

Kind of hard to believe that the person you elected to be POTUS lied to you isn't it? But he did. But for you liberals living in Obama fantasy land who want to keep that beautiful fantasy going--what ever you do--do not read about section 1702.

And since then? He's gone out to tout the LIE.

 

[The T]

yep just plain nuts we are for complaining and expecting different. Some hospitals gone bankrupt, Er's shut down hell whole states are going bankrupt form the burden of providing for illegals at the expense of the American citizen.. and we are just plain nuts for objecting.. got it.

Yep. And it's from Unfunded FEDERAL MANDATES that have made States/Municipalities go into the RED.

Many here think it's just fine for the FED to have such powers circumventing the 10th Amendment.

 

[Intense]

yep just plain nuts we are for complaining and expecting different. Some hospitals gone bankrupt, Er's shut down hell whole states are going bankrupt form the burden of providing for illegals at the expense of the American citizen.. and we are just plain nuts for objecting.. got it.

And Mexico is complaining to boot.

 

[AllieBaba]

We already have lifted the citz requirement for medical. We cannot hold up medical for proof of citizenship. We have to issue and give them 45 days or 60 days or however long (because they always have to have 10 days notice...it can stretch out there) to provide it, extend the time if necessary.

 

[edthecynic]

The House bill not only makes a major expansion of Medicaid eligibility but also restricts (in Section 1702) inquiries about immigration status.

Please post the exact words in Section 1702 that place restrictions on inquiries about immigration status. I've read Section 1702 and found none. I've asked you to post them on other threads and you didn't then either.

 

[edthecynic]

Here is the link for all YOU believers in Barack Obama--

It is clear that under section 1702 of HR3200--under expanded Medicade programs--there is "restrictions on asking about immigration status.

THIS IS WHY JOE WILSON LOST IT THE OTHER NIGHT & CALLED OBAMA A LIAR.

READ IT

HR3200 and Illegal Immigrants…America BEING SNOOKERED! at Desert Conservative

YOU LIE

Your link contains not one single word from Section 1702.

If these "restrictions" are so "clearly" stated in 1702 you could "clearly" quote the "clear" restrictions.

There isn't even an "expanded Medicare programs" section in 1702 let alone any restrictions contained in the nonexistent section.

 

[edthecynic]

•HR 3200 IH
SEC. 1702.

REQUIREMENTS AND SPECIAL RULES FOR CER-5
TAIN MEDICAID ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS. 6
(a) INGENERAL.—Title XIX of the Social Security 7
Act is amended by adding at the end the following new 8
section: 9
‘‘REQUIREMENTSANDSPECIALRULESFORCERTAIN 10
MEDICAIDELIGIBLEINDIVIDUALS 11
‘‘SEC. 1943. (a) COORDINATION WITH NHI EX-12
CHANGE THROUGH MEMORANDUM OF UNDER-13
STANDING.— 14
‘‘(1) INGENERAL.—The State shall enter into 15
a Medicaid memorandum of understanding described 16
in section 204(e)(4) of the America’s Affordable 17
Health Choices Act of 2009 with the Health Choices 18
Commissioner, acting in consultation with the Sec-19
retary, with respect to coordinating the implementa-20
tion of the provisions of division A of such Act with 21
the State plan under this title in order to ensure the 22
enrollment of Medicaid eligible individuals in accept-23
able coverage. Nothing in this section shall be con-24
strued as permitting such memorandum to modify or 25

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•HR 3200 IH
vitiate any requirement of a State plan under this 1
title. 2
‘‘(2) ENROLLMENT OF EXCHANGE-REFERRED 3
INDIVIDUALS.— 4
‘‘(A) NON-TRADITIONAL INDIVIDUALS.— 5
Pursuant to such memorandum the State shall 6
accept without further determination the enroll-7
ment under this title of an individual deter-8
mined by the Commissioner to be a non-tradi-9
tional Medicaid eligible individual. The State 10
shall not do any redeterminations of eligibility 11
for such individuals unless the periodicity of 12
such redeterminations is consistent with the pe-13
riodicity for redeterminations by the Commis-14
sioner of eligibility for affordability credits 15
under subtitle C of title II of division A of the 16
America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 17
2009, as specified under such memorandum. 18
‘‘(B) TRADITIONALINDIVIDUALS.— 19
‘‘(i) REGULAR ENROLLMENT OP-20
TION.—Pursuant to such memorandum, 21
insofar as the memorandum has selected 22
the option described in section 23
205(e)(3)(A) of the America’s Affordable 24
Health Choices Act of 2009, the State 25


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•HR 3200 IH
shall accept without further determination 1
the enrollment under this title of an indi-2
vidual determined by the Commissioner to 3
be a traditional Medicaid eligible indi-4
vidual. The State may do redeterminations 5
of eligibility of such individual consistent 6
with such section and the memorandum. 7
‘‘(ii) PRESUMPTIVE ELIGIBILITY OP-8
TION.—Pursuant to such memorandum, 9
insofar as the memorandum has selected 10
the option described in section 11
205(e)(3)(B) of the America’s Affordable 12
Health Choices Act of 2009, the State 13
shall provide for making medical assistance 14
available during the presumptive eligibility 15
period and shall, upon application of the 16
individual for medical assistance under this 17
title, promptly make a determination (and 18
subsequent redeterminations) of eligibility 19
in the same manner as if the individual 20
had applied directly to the State for such 21
assistance except that the State shall use 22
the income-related information used by the 23
Commissioner and provided to the State 24
under the memorandum in making the pre-25

748
•HR 3200 IH
sumptive eligibility determination to the 1
maximum extent feasible. 2
‘‘(3) DETERMINATIONS OF ELIGIBILITY FOR 3
AFFORDABILITYCREDITS.—If the Commissioner de-4
termines that a State Medicaid agency has the ca-5
pacity to make determinations of eligibility for af-6
fordability credits under subtitle C of title II of divi-7
sion A of the America’s Affordable Health Choices 8
Act of 2009, under such memorandum— 9
‘‘(A) the State Medicaid agency shall con-10
duct such determinations for any Exchange-eli-11
gible individual who requests such a determina-12
tion; 13
‘‘(B) in the case that a State Medicaid 14
agency determines that an Exchange-eligible in-15
dividual is not eligible for affordability credits, 16
the agency shall forward the information on the 17
basis of which such determination was made to 18
the Commissioner; and 19
‘‘(C) the Commissioner shall reimburse the 20
State Medicaid agency for the costs of con-21
ducting such determinations. 22
‘‘(b) TREATMENTOFCERTAINNEWBORNS.— 23
‘‘(1) INGENERAL.—In the case of a child who 24
is deemed under section 205(d)(1) of the America’s 25

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•HR 3200 IH
Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 to be a non- 1
traditional Medicaid eligible individual and enrolled 2
under this title pursuant to such section, the State 3
shall provide for a determination, by not later than 4
the end of the period referred to in subparagraph 5
(A) of such section, of the child’s eligibility for med-6
ical assistance under this title. 7
‘‘(2) EXTENDEDTREATMENTAS TRADITIONAL 8
MEDICAID ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUAL.—In accordance 9
with subparagraph (B) of section 205(d)(1) of the 10
America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, in 11
the case of a child described in subparagraph (A) of 12
such section who at the end of the period referred 13
to in such subparagraph is not otherwise covered 14
under acceptable coverage, the child shall be deemed 15
(until such time as the child obtains such coverage 16
or the State otherwise makes a determination of the 17
child’s eligibility for medical assistance under its 18
plan under this title pursuant to paragraph (1)) to 19
be a traditional Medicaid eligible individual de-20
scribed in section 1902(l)(1)(B). 21
‘‘(c) DEFINITIONS.—In this section: 22
‘‘(1) MEDICAID ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS.—In 23
this section, the terms ‘Medicaid eligible individual’, 24
‘traditional Medicaid eligible individual’, and ‘non- 25

750
•HR 3200 IH
traditional Medicaid eligible individual’ have the 1
meanings given such terms in section 205(e)(5) of 2
the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 3
2009. 4
‘‘(2) MEMORANDUM.—The term ‘memorandum’ 5
means a Medicaid memorandum of understanding 6
under section 205(e)(4) of the America’s Affordable 7
Health Choices Act of 2009. 8
‘‘(3) Y1.—The term ‘Y1’ has the meaning given 9
such term in section 100(c) of the America’s Afford-10
able Health Choices Act of 2009.’’. 11
(b) CONFORMINGAMENDMENTSTOERRORRATE.— 12
(1) Section 1903(u)(1)(D) of the Social Secu-13
rity Act (42 U.S.C. 1396b(u)(1)(D)) is amended by 14
adding at the end the following new clause: 15
‘‘(vi) In determining the amount of erroneous excess 16
payments, there shall not be included any erroneous pay-17
ments made that are attributable to an error in an eligi-18
bility determination under subtitle C of title II of division 19
A of the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 20
2009.’’. 21
(2) Section 2105(c)(11) of such Act (42 U.S.C. 22
1397ee(c)(11)) is amended by adding at the end the 23
following new sentence: ‘‘Clause (vi) of section 24
1903(u)(1)(D) shall apply with respect to the appli-25


751
cation of such requirements under this title and title 1
XIX.’’. 2

 

[Intense]

•HR 3200 IH
SEC. 1702.

REQUIREMENTS AND SPECIAL RULES FOR CER-5
TAIN MEDICAID ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS. 6
(a) INGENERAL.—Title XIX of the Social Security 7
Act is amended by adding at the end the following new 8
section: 9
‘‘REQUIREMENTSANDSPECIALRULESFORCERTAIN 10
MEDICAIDELIGIBLEINDIVIDUALS 11
‘‘SEC. 1943. (a) COORDINATION WITH NHI EX-12
CHANGE THROUGH MEMORANDUM OF UNDER-13
STANDING.— 14
‘‘(1) INGENERAL.—The State shall enter into 15
a Medicaid memorandum of understanding described 16
in section 204(e)(4) of the America’s Affordable 17
Health Choices Act of 2009 with the Health Choices 18
Commissioner, acting in consultation with the Sec-19
retary, with respect to coordinating the implementa-20
tion of the provisions of division A of such Act with 21
the State plan under this title in order to ensure the 22
enrollment of Medicaid eligible individuals in accept-23
able coverage. Nothing in this section shall be con-24
strued as permitting such memorandum to modify or 25

746
•HR 3200 IH
vitiate any requirement of a State plan under this 1
title. 2
‘‘(2) ENROLLMENT OF EXCHANGE-REFERRED 3
INDIVIDUALS.— 4
‘‘(A) NON-TRADITIONAL INDIVIDUALS.— 5
Pursuant to such memorandum the State shall 6
accept without further determination the enroll-7
ment under this title of an individual deter-8
mined by the Commissioner to be a non-tradi-9
tional Medicaid eligible individual. The State 10
shall not do any redeterminations of eligibility 11
for such individuals unless the periodicity of 12
such redeterminations is consistent with the pe-13
riodicity for redeterminations by the Commis-14
sioner of eligibility for affordability credits 15
under subtitle C of title II of division A of the 16
America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 17
2009, as specified under such memorandum. 18
‘‘(B) TRADITIONALINDIVIDUALS.— 19
‘‘(i) REGULAR ENROLLMENT OP-20
TION.—Pursuant to such memorandum, 21
insofar as the memorandum has selected 22
the option described in section 23
205(e)(3)(A) of the America’s Affordable 24
Health Choices Act of 2009, the State 25


747
•HR 3200 IH
shall accept without further determination 1
the enrollment under this title of an indi-2
vidual determined by the Commissioner to 3
be a traditional Medicaid eligible indi-4
vidual. The State may do redeterminations 5
of eligibility of such individual consistent 6
with such section and the memorandum. 7
‘‘(ii) PRESUMPTIVE ELIGIBILITY OP-8
TION.—Pursuant to such memorandum, 9
insofar as the memorandum has selected 10
the option described in section 11
205(e)(3)(B) of the America’s Affordable 12
Health Choices Act of 2009, the State 13
shall provide for making medical assistance 14
available during the presumptive eligibility 15
period and shall, upon application of the 16
individual for medical assistance under this 17
title, promptly make a determination (and 18
subsequent redeterminations) of eligibility 19
in the same manner as if the individual 20
had applied directly to the State for such 21
assistance except that the State shall use 22
the income-related information used by the 23
Commissioner and provided to the State 24
under the memorandum in making the pre-25

748
•HR 3200 IH
sumptive eligibility determination to the 1
maximum extent feasible. 2
‘‘(3) DETERMINATIONS OF ELIGIBILITY FOR 3
AFFORDABILITYCREDITS.—If the Commissioner de-4
termines that a State Medicaid agency has the ca-5
pacity to make determinations of eligibility for af-6
fordability credits under subtitle C of title II of divi-7
sion A of the America’s Affordable Health Choices 8
Act of 2009, under such memorandum— 9
‘‘(A) the State Medicaid agency shall con-10
duct such determinations for any Exchange-eli-11
gible individual who requests such a determina-12
tion; 13
‘‘(B) in the case that a State Medicaid 14
agency determines that an Exchange-eligible in-15
dividual is not eligible for affordability credits, 16
the agency shall forward the information on the 17
basis of which such determination was made to 18
the Commissioner; and 19
‘‘(C) the Commissioner shall reimburse the 20
State Medicaid agency for the costs of con-21
ducting such determinations. 22
‘‘(b) TREATMENTOFCERTAINNEWBORNS.— 23
‘‘(1) INGENERAL.—In the case of a child who 24
is deemed under section 205(d)(1) of the America’s 25

749
•HR 3200 IH
Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 to be a non- 1
traditional Medicaid eligible individual and enrolled 2
under this title pursuant to such section, the State 3
shall provide for a determination, by not later than 4
the end of the period referred to in subparagraph 5
(A) of such section, of the child’s eligibility for med-6
ical assistance under this title. 7
‘‘(2) EXTENDEDTREATMENTAS TRADITIONAL 8
MEDICAID ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUAL.—In accordance 9
with subparagraph (B) of section 205(d)(1) of the 10
America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, in 11
the case of a child described in subparagraph (A) of 12
such section who at the end of the period referred 13
to in such subparagraph is not otherwise covered 14
under acceptable coverage, the child shall be deemed 15
(until such time as the child obtains such coverage 16
or the State otherwise makes a determination of the 17
child’s eligibility for medical assistance under its 18
plan under this title pursuant to paragraph (1)) to 19
be a traditional Medicaid eligible individual de-20
scribed in section 1902(l)(1)(B). 21
‘‘(c) DEFINITIONS.—In this section: 22
‘‘(1) MEDICAID ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS.—In 23
this section, the terms ‘Medicaid eligible individual’, 24
‘traditional Medicaid eligible individual’, and ‘non- 25

750
•HR 3200 IH
traditional Medicaid eligible individual’ have the 1
meanings given such terms in section 205(e)(5) of 2
the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 3
2009. 4
‘‘(2) MEMORANDUM.—The term ‘memorandum’ 5
means a Medicaid memorandum of understanding 6
under section 205(e)(4) of the America’s Affordable 7
Health Choices Act of 2009. 8
‘‘(3) Y1.—The term ‘Y1’ has the meaning given 9
such term in section 100(c) of the America’s Afford-10
able Health Choices Act of 2009.’’. 11
(b) CONFORMINGAMENDMENTSTOERRORRATE.— 12
(1) Section 1903(u)(1)(D) of the Social Secu-13
rity Act (42 U.S.C. 1396b(u)(1)(D)) is amended by 14
adding at the end the following new clause: 15
‘‘(vi) In determining the amount of erroneous excess 16
payments, there shall not be included any erroneous pay-17
ments made that are attributable to an error in an eligi-18
bility determination under subtitle C of title II of division 19
A of the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 20
2009.’’. 21
(2) Section 2105(c)(11) of such Act (42 U.S.C. 22
1397ee(c)(11)) is amended by adding at the end the 23
following new sentence: ‘‘Clause (vi) of section 24
1903(u)(1)(D) shall apply with respect to the appli-25


751
cation of such requirements under this title and title 1
XIX.’’. 2

Wow .

Thats all really impressive.

I just have one question though.

Why would The Federal Government want to Implement a Policy that would change Whom is responsible, for Paying For Services Already Mandated by the Feds., at no Cost To The Feds.?

How about All Current Liability in Treating Illegals that The Feds, failed to keep out, and their Children, be Transferred from the Individual States to The Federal Government.
The Federal Government could Pursue Payment from the Home Country on an Individual, case by case Basis.

How about that?

 

[rayboyusmc]

The right is just throwing shit on the wall to confuse the voters.

This is the their current mode of operation because they have no plan except to try and destroy Obama even if it means hurting the country.

Death panels anyone? Actually they do exist today. They are headed by Medical Directors for the Health Insurance Companies and they have the power to deny you care even if you need it and just happen to die as a result.

Hey, all you righties, help US eliminate these death panels.

Rationing? It already is happening. In California, United turned down over 30% of the requests for service.

How so many middle class Americans can be sucked in by the big right wing vacuum of crap machine is truly amazing.

The middle class is the engine that powers this country, not the 5% rich. If 80% of US are working and making a good wage, the economy flourishes. If 5% are super rich, then those 5% are super rich.

It doesnt' trickle down. St. Ronnie was full of it.

 

[Intense]

The right is just throwing shit on the wall to confuse the voters.

This is the their current mode of operation because they have no plan except to try and destroy Obama even if it means hurting the country.

Death panels anyone? Actually they do exist today. They are headed by Medical Directors for the Health Insurance Companies and they have the power to deny you care even if you need it and just happen to die as a result.

Hey, all you righties, help US eliminate these death panels.

Rationing? It already is happening. In California, United turned down over 30% of the requests for service.

How so many middle class Americans can be sucked in by the big right wing vacuum of crap machine is truly amazing.

The middle class is the engine that powers this country, not the 5% rich. If 80% of US are working and making a good wage, the economy flourishes. If 5% are super rich, then those 5% are super rich.

It doesnt' trickle down. St. Ronnie was full of it.

Doctors don't like what you're doing either. Slavery was outlawed long ago. What's in your pocket should not trickle down unless you're in love with being mugged.

 

[The T]

The right is just throwing shit on the wall to confuse the voters.

This is the their current mode of operation because they have no plan except to try and destroy Obama even if it means hurting the country.

Death panels anyone? Actually they do exist today. They are headed by Medical Directors for the Health Insurance Companies and they have the power to deny you care even if you need it and just happen to die as a result.

Hey, all you righties, help US eliminate these death panels.

Rationing? It already is happening. In California, United turned down over 30% of the requests for service.

How so many middle class Americans can be sucked in by the big right wing vacuum of crap machine is truly amazing.

The middle class is the engine that powers this country, not the 5% rich. If 80% of US are working and making a good wage, the economy flourishes. If 5% are super rich, then those 5% are super rich.

It doesnt' trickle down. St. Ronnie was full of it.

Doctors don't like what you're doing either. Slavery was outlawed long ago. What's in your pocket should not trickle down unless you're in love with being mugged.

Or have it STOLEN from you by FORCE of LAW, i.e. IRS, and the present TAX CODE, for purposes of vote getting for the power Trip our 'electeds' are on.

 

[Intense]

The right is just throwing shit on the wall to confuse the voters.

This is the their current mode of operation because they have no plan except to try and destroy Obama even if it means hurting the country.

Death panels anyone? Actually they do exist today. They are headed by Medical Directors for the Health Insurance Companies and they have the power to deny you care even if you need it and just happen to die as a result.

Hey, all you righties, help US eliminate these death panels.

Rationing? It already is happening. In California, United turned down over 30% of the requests for service.

How so many middle class Americans can be sucked in by the big right wing vacuum of crap machine is truly amazing.

The middle class is the engine that powers this country, not the 5% rich. If 80% of US are working and making a good wage, the economy flourishes. If 5% are super rich, then those 5% are super rich.

It doesnt' trickle down. St. Ronnie was full of it.

Doctors don't like what you're doing either. Slavery was outlawed long ago. What's in your pocket should not trickle down unless you're in love with being mugged.

Or have it STOLEN from you by FORCE of LAW, i.e. IRS, and the present TAX CODE, for purposes of vote getting for the power Trip our 'electeds' are on.

I think that we may soon get to that tax code and simplify it. Oversight, Transparency, Accountability. Just keep thinking it. Simplify. Simplify. Simplify. Did I mention Simplify?

 

[The T]

Doctors don't like what you're doing either. Slavery was outlawed long ago. What's in your pocket should not trickle down unless you're in love with being mugged.

Or have it STOLEN from you by FORCE of LAW, i.e. IRS, and the present TAX CODE, for purposes of vote getting for the power Trip our 'electeds' are on.

I think that we may soon get to that tax code and simplify it. Oversight, Transparency, Accountability. Just keep thinking it. Simplify. Simplify. Simplify. Did I mention Simplify?

FAIRTAX Anyone?

 

[Intense]

Or have it STOLEN from you by FORCE of LAW, i.e. IRS, and the present TAX CODE, for purposes of vote getting for the power Trip our 'electeds' are on.

I think that we may soon get to that tax code and simplify it. Oversight, Transparency, Accountability. Just keep thinking it. Simplify. Simplify. Simplify. Did I mention Simplify?

FAIRTAX Anyone?

I just don't want to have to collect a Sales Tax. Bad Form, unless they want to Pay us for the Trouble, and Trouble enough it is.