Have the Democrats Failed Enough?

[The Rabbi]

Obama re-authorized the Patriot Act. Bush only had two wars, Obama has at least five.

"No Child Left Behind" Co Authored by: Sen. Edward Kennedy.

Senate Resolution for the Iraq War passed 77-23. All that voted against were Democrats. The Republicans had a 51-49 advantage at that time and that means 26 Democrats voted for the war.

You couldn't find this info yourself?

Apparently you couldn't. Glad to see your research skills have improved. So you know that Bush acted with bipartisan support on most issues, which Obama does not. You know that Bush did not attack millionaires and billionaires, which Obama does. You know that Bush did not engage in undermining the rule of law through the Chrysler and GM bankruptcies, which obama did.
So claiming that Obama and Bush do the same things is clearly wrong. You've shown that yourself.

Did you go to school in a foreign Country? Is English not your first Language?

The Patriot Act IS undermining the rule of law!

Bush issued 161 signing statements.
Obama has issued 16 so far.

Bipartisanship? You mean like the Unconstitutional Super Congress that has 6 treasonous Republicans in it? You mean that kind of Bi-Partisanship?

Obama is at the top of that one. You gonna' give him credit for that?

Which court has found the Patriot Act unconstitutional? Who has had their constitutional liberties abridged? I want names.
All presidents issue signing statements. I guess Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama are the same in that case.
WHo has ruled the congressional panel is unconsitutional? Six treasonous republicans? Do you know what treason is?
You are simply a progressive retarded back to a Ron paul wookie-suiter. Your ramblings make no sense.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why should anyone pay any attention to the insights of a person who is hell-bent partisan over being rational, decent, etc.?

They shouldn't.

True, considering the fact the OP and those in agreement with him have provided no evidence in support of the premise.

Fallacy: Begging the Question

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because simply assuming that the conclusion is true (directly or indirectly) in the premises does not constitute evidence for that conclusion.

And given the fact the premise is a fallacy.

The proof is all around us. 9% unemployment. Highest poverty rate in 50 years. Lowest job creation. Every metric sucks.
Unless you want to maintain that government doesn't really matter. In which case why vote for anyone?

 

[rdean]

Are small minded Republicans who have no ideas or education going to continue to obstruct everything? Guess so.

 

[The Rabbi]

Are small minded Republicans who have no ideas or education going to continue to obstruct everything? Guess so.

Mention failure and RDean appears.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Dems took control of Congress in 06...

You been Hannitized!

This is an oft repeated lie, spoken by right wing political pundents, which has no real basis in fact.

After the '06 elections, the Senate was 49 Dems to 49 Repubs, with two independents, and one of those independents campaigned for McCain.

How does that equate to controlling the Senate?

In the House, yes...the Dems had about a 30 vote majority...out of 435 members!

Wow! That's some control of congress, isn't it?

"Tapper: You have gotten a lot passed though, much of your agenda has been passed -- the stimulus, health care, Wall Street reform -- so we're sitting in a state right now where a majority of the voters disapprove of your handling of the economy and we're going to Virginia later, where a majority of the voters do not thing you deserve to be re-elected. We're sitting in a school, what grade would you give yourself?

Obama: Well, you know I'm not going to give myself a grade."

Page 2: Transcript: ABC News' Jake Tapper's Exclusive Interview with President Obama - ABC News

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Are small minded Republicans who have no ideas or education going to continue to obstruct everything? Guess so.

Obstructing the downgraded President is a good thing

Stop him before he downgrades us again!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This thread has certainly failed ‘enough.’

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Democrats will continue to offer nothing but more of the same failed policies they have always offered.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Are small minded Republicans who have no ideas or education going to continue to obstruct everything? Guess so.

Obstructing the downgraded President is a good thing

Indeed - long term, doing nothing is fully superior than to do what The Obama wants.

 

[The Rabbi]

Are small minded Republicans who have no ideas or education going to continue to obstruct everything? Guess so.

Obstructing the downgraded President is a good thing

Indeed - long term, doing nothing is fully superior than to do what The Obama wants.

If Obama had sat on his hands for 3 years we would be better offf.

 

[BDBoop]

This thread has certainly failed ‘enough.’

It's a Rabbi standard. Fail begets FAIL.

 

[The Rabbi]

This thread has certainly failed ‘enough.’

It's a Rabbi standard. Fail begets FAIL.

You're rapidly becoming the Chris of USMB posters....

 

[kiwiman127]

The Democrats will continue to offer nothing but more of the same failed policies they have always offered.

Actually, one could also say that about the GOP too!

That's why it'd be great if a centralist third party would emerge with no previously failed policies within their agenda.

 

[The Rabbi]

The Democrats will continue to offer nothing but more of the same failed policies they have always offered.

Actually, one could also say that about the GOP too!

That's why it'd be great if a centralist third party would emerge with no previously failed policies within their agenda.

Hm, GOP policies worked in 1980, 1990, and 2000. Dem policies failed every other time. So no, you can't say that about the GOP.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[kiwiman127]

Trickle down worked? For whom?
Chart 1 shows the income inequality growth and Chart 2 shows the decline of the working class within the National Income.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Trickle down worked? For whom?

Herring, red.

 

[kiwiman127]

Trickle down worked? For whom?

Herring, red.

Facts, real.

 

[The Rabbi]

Trickle down worked? For whom?

Herring, red.

Facts, real.

The fact is that inflation moderated, the value of the dollar rose, and unemployment declined.
Under Bush in 2000 the recession went away and unemployment, which was never over 6% or so remained under 5.5 for most of his presidency.
Under Obama inflation is heating up, unemployment is at its highest sustained point since Carter, and we have endured 3 years of recession or painfully slow growth.
Facts. The actual ones.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Trickle down worked? For whom?

Herring, red.

Facts, real.

However real your "facts" may or may not be, they aren't relevant to the discussion; your response does not address the issue and hand - that is, the failure of the DEMOCRATS - and does nothing other than try to move the conversation away from that issue.

Thus - red herring.

Red herring - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia