Hate, Division, Identity Politics, Character Assassination, Violence Come with a Price for THE DNC

[The Original Tree]

And in case you wondered why I cut your line of reasoning off at the head....here is another reason.

You tried to frame your question with a faulty premise and opinion. It was a shameful manipulation of the discussion. That told me....despite my addressing your biased view earlier and rebutting it, that you are intellectually dishonest, and not interested in discourse, because you regurgitated the same POV that I had just rebutted.

The Same Intellectual Dishonesty is used with Faulty Unscientific Polls, which you attempted to cite as if they were facts, when in fact they are unscientific and based on pure opinionated responses to carefully crafted questions.

The wording of the question in these polls are designed to generate guided responses.

And then the media, takes these manipulated polls, does not give the demographics and other contributing factors, and does not even show the entire poll, or even the verbatim question asked. They do this so that people cannot independently analyze it, and then tries to tell us, that a poll conducted in a metropolitan area, with 500 people surveyed equals the opinions of 320 Million Americans.

That is the absurd extreme way media viewers are manipulated en mass. This is the very definition of PROPAGANDA, and I refuse to play THE PROPAGANDA game with anyone who wants to be Intellectually Dishonest like that.

 

[forkup]

And in case you wondered why I cut your line of reasoning off at the head....here is another reason.

You tried to frame your question with a faulty premise and opinion. It was a shameful manipulation of the discussion. That told me....despite my addressing your biased view earlier, that you are intellectually dishonest, and not interested in discourse, because you regurgitated the same POV that I had just rebutted.

The Same Intellectual Dishonesty is used with Faulty Unscientific Polls, which you attempted to cite as if they were facts, when in fact they are unscientific and based on pure opinionated responses to carefully crafted questions.

The wording of the question in these polls are designed to generate a guided response.
And then the media, takes a manipulated poll, does not give the demographics and other contributing factors so that people can independently analyze it, and tries to tell us, that a poll conducted in a metropolitan area, with 500 people surveyed equals the opinions of 320 Million Americans.

That is the absurd extreme way media viewers are manipulated en masse. This is the very definition of PROPAGANDA, and I refuse to play THE PROPAGANDA game with anyone who wants to be Intellectually Dishonest like that.

-I framed my question, a question you haven't answered yet, so you knew what my opinion is. I asked the question because if you don't follow my definition, it is important that I know what yours is, so I would have the ability to discuss it.
-As for my unscientific polls, that implies there are polls you consider scientific. So post it and show me how in those the presidents approval rating is rising.

 

[The Original Tree]

The Ds have lost their base.

You mean their OLD BASE.

The New Base is made up of Cultural Marxists indoctrinated in The Liberal Group Think-Globalist Education Camps.

That is who they appeal to now. But those groups are young and foolish, and don't have a lot of money to fund THE DNC, so this is why THE DNC relies on RADICAL LEFTIST ELITES to do work on the outside so much.

 

[The Original Tree]

You made a bunch of poor assumptions.

1.) That only Big Business is interested in Trump, and that Big Business = Swamp.
Commerce is not EVIL. Just as in Life there are good and bad people, in Commerce there are ethical and unethical people. Same as in politics.

2.) That only the wealthy support Trump (primarily) when in fact small donations under $200 to the GOP out pace the DNC by 2-1.

3.) You claimed that he only speaks to his base and makes "Crazy Statements" when in fact, The President has been vindicated by every "crazy statement" he made that the media tried to roast him over. And it wasn't just "his base" that voted for him..... Many Democrats Crossed over and rejected Hillary Clinton in favor of President Trump.

And even now, Governors, Mayors, are changing Party Affiliations, just like their voters did. Just like the Swing States Did. How can a party not recognize that, and fail to see The Writing On The Wall?

Your party, and the people that support it, cannot seem to look past The Leftist Media Propaganda Machine at the ACTUAL FACTS.

You are believing your own propaganda, when what you need is a reformation, and an embracing of THE TRUTH. The Truth & Facts I posted in My Title.

And The Facts say.......The Left is who is speaking to THEIR RADICAL BASE and Magnifying their message, while Ignoring the JFK-Carter Democrats & Independents.

That's gonna sting in 2018 and 2020.
And you are already hemorrhaging now.
You'll be limping by 2018, crawling by 2020, and you may be given your last rites by 2024.

If The BLIND, LEAD THE BLIND....
The both shall fall in to THE DITCH.

1. Define swamp then for me? I'll give you who I think is the swamp. The swamp to me is big business, because they fund political campaigns. They in term have to protect the interests of big business. Who to you is the swamp? For now the only definition that I can discern from you is, everyone who opposes Trump.
2. The only figures I found in my admittedly very brief search for small donations is for 2017. Making grand conclusions on that bases is wrong. It's also wrong to immediately leap to the conclusion that opposition to Trump is the reason donations drop. It is the reason I have problems with your post.
3. What vindication you see? You take the indices of small donor donation as a measure of Trump's popularity. While the actual indices of polls is totally ignored
Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval
If you are right and Trump is getting vindicated no polls show it. I'm willing to accept that Trump gets more small donations. Are those donations given by a relative small portion of die hard supporters or a broader portion is the question?
4. I didn't claim just is base voted for him. A lot of people who voted for him were motivated by dissolution of Washington and a perceived decline of their situation. Something that I understand. I'm claiming that a lot of the people who voted for him, now regret their decision as ALL polls show.

I can't even read past the first item you listed, as it is pronounced from a MYOPIC SOCIALIST Point of View, from the pulpit of a Collectivist Clergyman.

The Swamp are The Establishment Politicians on The Left & Right who are corrupt and serve their own interests over The Interests of The People.

So you launch in to your speech, beginning with a logical fallacy which I refuted and you failed to even attempt to support your point.

Do you want me to enumerate the NUMBER OF FACTS I have posted in this thread?
I fail to see one fact from you to support any of your "OPINIONS"

Keep wearing those collectivist glasses. The only way they'll ever come in to focus is if The Left "FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGES AMERICA" in to a SOCIALIST DYSTOPIA.

Polls are worthless, unless you are talking about these kind...

Do you want me to enumerate the NUMBER OF FACTS I have posted in this thread?

Sure give me those facts. And then give me a reasoning for your assertion that those facts are because the people don't like opposition to Trump. It quite literally is something I asked of you every single post.

I can't even read past the first item you listed

My first item was a question. Define the swamp? I didn't know wanting clarity was that difficult.

Scroll to the top of the thread and start counting.

you seem to connect the fundraising problems with the democrats going after Trump. Where in any of the links is that connection made?

The premise is that it dropped because of how they treat Trump. It's your title I have issues with.

t's also wrong to immediately leap to the conclusion that opposition to Trump is the reason donations drop.

And then give me a reasoning for your assertion that those facts are because the people don't like opposition to Trump.

Why don't you answer my question first, lord knows I've asked enough. It's something I've noticed. I have given a counterargument of almost every single argument you've made. You don't answer even direct questions. We both seem to follow different rules. Your rules are those of someone who isn't willing to conversate so you deflect and ignore. Mine are those of someone who has respect for different opinions. I like debating bit this isn't it.

POST #17. It's not my issue that you don't like my answer.
Go buy some butt hurt paste.

 

[The Original Tree]

And in case you wondered why I cut your line of reasoning off at the head....here is another reason.

You tried to frame your question with a faulty premise and opinion. It was a shameful manipulation of the discussion. That told me....despite my addressing your biased view earlier, that you are intellectually dishonest, and not interested in discourse, because you regurgitated the same POV that I had just rebutted.

The Same Intellectual Dishonesty is used with Faulty Unscientific Polls, which you attempted to cite as if they were facts, when in fact they are unscientific and based on pure opinionated responses to carefully crafted questions.

The wording of the question in these polls are designed to generate a guided response.
And then the media, takes a manipulated poll, does not give the demographics and other contributing factors so that people can independently analyze it, and tries to tell us, that a poll conducted in a metropolitan area, with 500 people surveyed equals the opinions of 320 Million Americans.

That is the absurd extreme way media viewers are manipulated en masse. This is the very definition of PROPAGANDA, and I refuse to play THE PROPAGANDA game with anyone who wants to be Intellectually Dishonest like that.

-I framed my question, a question you haven't answered yet, so you knew what my opinion is. I asked the question because if you don't follow my definition, it is important that I know what yours is, so I would have the ability to discuss it.
-As for my unscientific polls, that implies there are polls you consider scientific. So post it and show me how in those the presidents approval rating is rising.

POST #17. It's not my issue that you don't like my answer.
Go buy some butt hurt paste.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

HATE & DIVISION using a WEDGE OF IDENTITY POLITICS & VIOLENCE & INTIMIDATION, RACE BAITING, & CHARACTER ASSASSINATION will get the LEFT exactly WHAT THEY DESERVE!

The DNC set another Record LOW for July vs. The GOP.

DNC $2.8 Million vs. RNC $10.2 Million

Democratic Implosion Continues As DNC Fundraising Hits 14 Year Low

DNC Fundraising for April 2017 Lowest Since 2009

DNC adds to debt after falling behind RNC in June fundraising

Analysis | The Democratic National Committee’s abysmal fundraising

Sanders sent $100,000 to DNC in May

RNC July fundraising numbers are nearly three times that of DNC

The numbers are striking. In June, the RNC raised $13.5 million to the DNC's $5.5 million. For 2017 so far, the RNC has raised $75.4 million to the DNC's $38.2 million.


The RNC started the year with $25.3 million in cash-on-hand. Now it has $44.7 million. The DNC started the year with $10.5 in cash-on-hand. Now, that has fallen to $7.5 million.

As of June 30, the RNC reported $0 in debt. The DNC reported $3.3 million in debt.

A look inside the numbers is even worse for the DNC. Looking at collections from small donors -- that is, those who contributed less than $200 -- the RNC raised $10.5 million in the months of May and June. The DNC raised $5.3 million from small donors in the same time period.

The RNC's money total is a record -- more than was raised in any previous non-presidential election year. That is true for June, and for all of 2017 as well. The $75.4 million raised this year compares to $55.4 million for the same period in 2015; to $51.2 for the same period in 2014; to $41.1 million for the same period in 2013, and so on going back.

No money for Resistance

THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS.

Remember, only Nazis don't give to the DNC

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And down to only holding 15 Governorships among the 50 states. Obviously Democrat Fake News isn't gonna report on it, but the Democratic Party is in shambles. As Wikileaks showed, it's one of the most corrupt institutions on earth. Possibly only the UN is a more corrupt failed entity.

Democratic leadership continues to boast about all their coming Landslide victories over the GOP, but it may not happen. That boast could prove to be pretty embarrassing for them. So despite what Democrat Fake News is feeding its Sheeple, the Democratic Party is very serious trouble. And if Wasserman-Schultz does go down, it could be proven once and for all that her and Clinton did rig their Party's Presidential Nomination process. So, there could be even more serious trouble coming for Democrats. Stay tuned.

Um, you mean that they only hold 15 Governorships among the 57 states, right?

 

[Dschrute3]

And down to only holding 15 Governorships among the 50 states. Obviously Democrat Fake News isn't gonna report on it, but the Democratic Party is in shambles. As Wikileaks showed, it's one of the most corrupt institutions on earth. Possibly only the UN is a more corrupt failed entity.

Democratic leadership continues to boast about all their coming Landslide victories over the GOP, but it may not happen. That boast could prove to be pretty embarrassing for them. So despite what Democrat Fake News is feeding its Sheeple, the Democratic Party is very serious trouble. And if Wasserman-Schultz does go down, it could be proven once and for all that her and Clinton did rig their Party's Presidential Nomination process. So, there could be even more serious trouble coming for Democrats. Stay tuned.

Um, you mean that they only hold 15 Governorships among the 57 states, right?

My bad.

 

[william the wie]

The Ds are imploding and their stormtroopers are really helping the process along.

 

[charwin95]

HATE & DIVISION using a WEDGE OF IDENTITY POLITICS & VIOLENCE & INTIMIDATION, RACE BAITING, & CHARACTER ASSASSINATION will get the LEFT exactly WHAT THEY DESERVE!

The DNC set another Record LOW for July vs. The GOP.

DNC $2.8 Million vs. RNC $10.2 Million

Democratic Implosion Continues As DNC Fundraising Hits 14 Year Low

DNC Fundraising for April 2017 Lowest Since 2009

DNC adds to debt after falling behind RNC in June fundraising

Analysis | The Democratic National Committee’s abysmal fundraising

Sanders sent $100,000 to DNC in May

RNC July fundraising numbers are nearly three times that of DNC

The numbers are striking. In June, the RNC raised $13.5 million to the DNC's $5.5 million. For 2017 so far, the RNC has raised $75.4 million to the DNC's $38.2 million.


The RNC started the year with $25.3 million in cash-on-hand. Now it has $44.7 million. The DNC started the year with $10.5 in cash-on-hand. Now, that has fallen to $7.5 million.

As of June 30, the RNC reported $0 in debt. The DNC reported $3.3 million in debt.

A look inside the numbers is even worse for the DNC. Looking at collections from small donors -- that is, those who contributed less than $200 -- the RNC raised $10.5 million in the months of May and June. The DNC raised $5.3 million from small donors in the same time period.

The RNC's money total is a record -- more than was raised in any previous non-presidential election year. That is true for June, and for all of 2017 as well. The $75.4 million raised this year compares to $55.4 million for the same period in 2015; to $51.2 for the same period in 2014; to $41.1 million for the same period in 2013, and so on going back.

No money for Resistance

THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS.

Yes it's a genuine real fake news.
Google your source of links and right away it say FAKE NEWS or extremely right wing bias.

I noticed most of you snowflakes post a lot of these unknown fake news media. Why is that? Don't you ever check the source where it's coming from or just because you like what they are saying?

Are these symptoms of deplorable or poorly informed Trump followers?