Boss
Take a Memo:
Everything always existed in one form or another.I say unless you have some evidence of this "creator" then cough it up.
Logic.
There is your evidence we were created!
Regardless of what you may believe the source of creation to be... 1) We exist. 2) We did not create ourselves.
Now, if you come up with a physically scientific way to prove how physical nature created itself, you can present the evidence and I'll be happy to take a look. So far, there has been nothing that I am aware of. Logic says things can't create themselves, it's a paradox... if they could create themselves, then they already existed.
Just because somethings hard to believe doesnt make it not true.
You should remember this when contemplating the possibility of God.
Regardless. Unless you have more evidence for a god heaven and hell please stfu.
Everything always existed in one form or another.
That's a nice, albeit "spiritual" thought. Nature and science seem to be throwing up some roadblocks to your theory. Perpetual motion defies the laws of thermodynamics, it's not physically possible. The universe is in motion. Again, logic dictates that Newton is correct and things are in motion because something set them in motion. The other thing is entropy, and we've been over this before as well. Things naturally decline from order to chaos. Obviously, entropy cannot be eternal and infinite. So we have a problem reconciling the concept of eternity and infinity with a physical universe.
A spiritual one? Perhaps!