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Uh, I have worked as and led engineers....you stupid fuck.
I am not impressed you work in a factory and are told when to work and not work when some alarm goes off.....trained monkey,
They are a bunch of trained monkeys compared to the engineers that design the airplane, you stupid fuck.
The lunacy is the union monkeys demand long term guranteed contracts or else they shutdown the plant, whereas the engineers that really make the planes are on salaries that can be terminated on the spot.
Scum like you support a world where the trained monkey has more job security because of the mob compared to the more educated and more important engineers behind the entire operation.
Let's give you and the trained monkeys without the help of engineers a challenge to design and build the next generation aircraft that needs to meet certain specs .....I see a monkey and a football.
Berzerker you dumb fuk. YOU have never worked with an engineer or on a manufacturing floor. Know how I know. CAUSE YOU SOUND SO FUKING STUPID TALKING ABOUT IT.
WTF is wrong with you? Off your meds? Do you even know what a tool maker is? Know what a machinist does? Welders? Electrician?
You my man really are a fuking idiot.
Uh, I have worked as and led engineers....you stupid fuck.
I am not impressed you work in a factory and are told when to work and not work when some alarm goes off.....trained monkey,
Berzerker you dumb fuk. YOU have never worked with an engineer or on a manufacturing floor. Know how I know. CAUSE YOU SOUND SO FUKING STUPID TALKING ABOUT IT.
WTF is wrong with you? Off your meds? Do you even know what a tool maker is? Know what a machinist does? Welders? Electrician?
You my man really are a fuking idiot.
Bezerker. The only engineer's you led were a mop brigade of sanitary engineers heading off to clean up a bunch of shit.
YOU an ENGINEER. To fuking funny. Keep pretending.
They are a bunch of trained monkeys compared to the engineers that design the airplane, you stupid fuck.
The lunacy is the union monkeys demand long term guranteed contracts or else they shutdown the plant, whereas the engineers that really make the planes are on salaries that can be terminated on the spot.
Scum like you support a world where the trained monkey has more job security because of the mob compared to the more educated and more important engineers behind the entire operation.
Let's give you and the trained monkeys without the help of engineers a challenge to design and build the next generation aircraft that needs to meet certain specs .....I see a monkey and a football.
As long as we both now understand that the need for efficiency is a primary driver for outsourcing, you may Kerry on.
LMAO.
By your definition of efficiency, which apparently includes just about everything according a post of yours above, I suppose we can agree.
However, by anyone else's definition, we'd have to disagree.
So..let's move beyond that and see if we can agree that THE primary reason for outsourcing is reducing cost. Can we?
That you 'agree' with the obvious truth of the matter is irrelevant.
LOL
Beyond the obvious fact that they have fewer Union monkeys to deal with by outsourcing, they also get.... wait for it..... wait for it...... about 80% of Japan's aircraft business.
This author thinks Boeing's decision to outsource 70% of the 787 Dreamliner has resulted in the company handing the Japanese a technological advantage which will leave Boeing in the dust.
Once again, a short-term, bottom line goal and deliberate union-busting may lead to another key American industry falling behind.
Yeah, you can do things cheaper overseas and turn a quick profit, but what about the future? Does anybody care anymore?
What Went Wrong at Boeing: My Two Cents - Forbes
Boeing's downward spiral started with they tried to shortchange their Engineers because they thought the Engineer's Guild was not a union, and could not bargain for them. The Engineers went on strike, Boeing replaced them with consultants, and found in short order, the outside consultants simply could not do the work. And settled that strike on the Engineers terms. Then, shortly afterward, moved the headquarters of Boeing from Seattle to Chicago. And it has been downhill for Boeing every since.
A management more interested in busting unions than in making airplanes.
Interesting.
Do you believe they fought the Unions and moved the HQ with the goal of making FEWER planes, then?
Or was that just stupid soundbite shit the Libtards say?
By your definition of efficiency, which apparently includes just about everything according a post of yours above, I suppose we can agree.
However, by anyone else's definition, we'd have to disagree.
So..let's move beyond that and see if we can agree that THE primary reason for outsourcing is reducing cost. Can we?
That you 'agree' with the obvious truth of the matter is irrelevant.
LOL
No, I don't agree with that. It's obvious by this point that you have nothing to add to this conversation.
This author thinks Boeing's decision to outsource 70% of the 787 Dreamliner has resulted in the company handing the Japanese a technological advantage which will leave Boeing in the dust.
Once again, a short-term, bottom line goal and deliberate union-busting may lead to another key American industry falling behind.
Yeah, you can do things cheaper overseas and turn a quick profit, but what about the future? Does anybody care anymore?
What Went Wrong at Boeing: My Two Cents - Forbes
Boeing's downward spiral started with they tried to shortchange their Engineers because they thought the Engineer's Guild was not a union, and could not bargain for them. The Engineers went on strike, Boeing replaced them with consultants, and found in short order, the outside consultants simply could not do the work. And settled that strike on the Engineers terms. Then, shortly afterward, moved the headquarters of Boeing from Seattle to Chicago. And it has been downhill for Boeing every since.
A management more interested in busting unions than in making airplanes.
Calling skilled American workers monkeys is one reason the republican party is falling down.
Please don't confuse skilled craftsmen with trained Union apes.
There is a difference.
Boeing's downward spiral started with they tried to shortchange their Engineers because they thought the Engineer's Guild was not a union, and could not bargain for them. The Engineers went on strike, Boeing replaced them with consultants, and found in short order, the outside consultants simply could not do the work. And settled that strike on the Engineers terms. Then, shortly afterward, moved the headquarters of Boeing from Seattle to Chicago. And it has been downhill for Boeing every since.
A management more interested in busting unions than in making airplanes.
Interesting.
Do you believe they fought the Unions and moved the HQ with the goal of making FEWER planes, then?
Or was that just stupid soundbite shit the Libtards say?
Wasn't their goal, but it sure is what they acheived. Fewer planes and less quality. Looks like they have given the lead in another industry to other nations because of the idiot ideology expressed by people like Snippy and Buzzed.
They are a bunch of trained monkeys compared to the engineers that design the airplane, you stupid fuck.
Oh, we see. It's an education elitism thing to you, isn't it?
God, what hubris!
The lunacy is the union monkeys demand long term guranteed contracts or else they shutdown the plant, whereas the engineers that really make the planes are on salaries that can be terminated on the spot.
How is the fault of what you call "the monkeys" that you and your fellow engineers don't have the good sense to join the union or organize your own? YOU'RE the one who agreed to work under those conditions, so there's nobody to blame but you.
Didn't they teach you ANYTHING in college?
Scum like you support a world where the trained monkey has more job security because of the mob compared to the more educated and more important engineers behind the entire operation.
Feel a sense of entitlement, do we?
Let's give you and the trained monkeys without the help of engineers a challenge to design and build the next generation aircraft that needs to meet certain specs .....I see a monkey and a football.
Ok, Mr. Super-Educated Engineer Elite, go ahead and design any airplane you like. Now....let's see you go out on the floor and build it.
They are a bunch of trained monkeys compared to the engineers that design the airplane, you stupid fuck.
Oh, we see. It's an education elitism thing to you, isn't it?
God, what hubris!
The lunacy is the union monkeys demand long term guranteed contracts or else they shutdown the plant, whereas the engineers that really make the planes are on salaries that can be terminated on the spot.
How is the fault of what you call "the monkeys" that you and your fellow engineers don't have the good sense to join the union or organize your own? YOU'RE the one who agreed to work under those conditions, so there's nobody to blame but you.
Didn't they teach you ANYTHING in college?
Scum like you support a world where the trained monkey has more job security because of the mob compared to the more educated and more important engineers behind the entire operation.
Feel a sense of entitlement, do we?
Let's give you and the trained monkeys without the help of engineers a challenge to design and build the next generation aircraft that needs to meet certain specs .....I see a monkey and a football.
Ok, Mr. Super-Educated Engineer Elite, go ahead and design any airplane you like. Now....let's see you go out on the floor and build it.
This author thinks Boeing's decision to outsource 70% of the 787 Dreamliner has resulted in the company handing the Japanese a technological advantage which will leave Boeing in the dust.
Once again, a short-term, bottom line goal and deliberate union-busting may lead to another key American industry falling behind.
Yeah, you can do things cheaper overseas and turn a quick profit, but what about the future? Does anybody care anymore?
What Went Wrong at Boeing: My Two Cents - Forbes
Boeing's downward spiral started with they tried to shortchange their Engineers because they thought the Engineer's Guild was not a union, and could not bargain for them. The Engineers went on strike, Boeing replaced them with consultants, and found in short order, the outside consultants simply could not do the work. And settled that strike on the Engineers terms. Then, shortly afterward, moved the headquarters of Boeing from Seattle to Chicago. And it has been downhill for Boeing every since.
A management more interested in busting unions than in making airplanes.
Interesting.
Do you believe they fought the Unions and moved the HQ with the goal of making FEWER planes, then?
Or was that just stupid soundbite shit the Libtards say?
That you 'agree' with the obvious truth of the matter is irrelevant.
LOL
No, I don't agree with that. It's obvious by this point that you have nothing to add to this conversation.
Efficiency is just another word for 'reducing cost' in an organization, moron.
LOL
Of course, you support the 500 monkeys on the floor organizing to threaten to quit if they don't get their way, while the smaller group of engineers don't agree to a mob gutting the company for more money.
Most union workers fucked up in high school but still act like teens in their 40s, organizing a mob and attacking anyone that gets in their way....like what happened in Michigan 2 months ago at the capitol building.
You are a knuckledragger like them....but I'd kick your ass with or without my degrees.
They are a bunch of trained monkeys compared to the engineers that design the airplane, you stupid fuck.
Oh, we see. It's an education elitism thing to you, isn't it?
God, what hubris!
How is the fault of what you call "the monkeys" that you and your fellow engineers don't have the good sense to join the union or organize your own? YOU'RE the one who agreed to work under those conditions, so there's nobody to blame but you.
Didn't they teach you ANYTHING in college?
Feel a sense of entitlement, do we?
Let's give you and the trained monkeys without the help of engineers a challenge to design and build the next generation aircraft that needs to meet certain specs .....I see a monkey and a football.
Ok, Mr. Super-Educated Engineer Elite, go ahead and design any airplane you like. Now....let's see you go out on the floor and build it.
Boeing's downward spiral started with they tried to shortchange their Engineers because they thought the Engineer's Guild was not a union, and could not bargain for them. The Engineers went on strike, Boeing replaced them with consultants, and found in short order, the outside consultants simply could not do the work. And settled that strike on the Engineers terms. Then, shortly afterward, moved the headquarters of Boeing from Seattle to Chicago. And it has been downhill for Boeing every since.
A management more interested in busting unions than in making airplanes.
Interesting.
Do you believe they fought the Unions and moved the HQ with the goal of making FEWER planes, then?
Or was that just stupid soundbite shit the Libtards say?
No, they made those moves with the goal of making cheaper planes...which isn't the same thing as less-expensive planes, is it?
There's an old saying that you get what you pay for. That's exactly what Boeing's customers are getting now and their shareholders will get in the future.
They are a bunch of trained monkeys compared to the engineers that design the airplane, you stupid fuck.
Oh, we see. It's an education elitism thing to you, isn't it?
God, what hubris!
How is the fault of what you call "the monkeys" that you and your fellow engineers don't have the good sense to join the union or organize your own? YOU'RE the one who agreed to work under those conditions, so there's nobody to blame but you.
Didn't they teach you ANYTHING in college?
Feel a sense of entitlement, do we?
Let's give you and the trained monkeys without the help of engineers a challenge to design and build the next generation aircraft that needs to meet certain specs .....I see a monkey and a football.
Ok, Mr. Super-Educated Engineer Elite, go ahead and design any airplane you like. Now....let's see you go out on the floor and build it.
Given the quality of his posts and the wording, I hardly see Buzzed as an educated elite.
