Discussion in 'Race Relations/Racism' started by manifold, Jul 21, 2009.
Interesting story: Warning this NY Times article may contain traces of bias.
The more I read about this incident the more I think Gates was trying to get arrested. Nothing like a little street cred to boost enrollment in his African-American history course(s). What a douche.
I think so too.
If it were Texas the neighbors could have shot him dead without any real danger of being arrested.
From the AP:
The Associated Press: Black scholar's arrest raises profiling questions
Yep, racism is over in America, especially institutionalized racism. Time to get rid of Affirmative Action...
Yes and yes.
Several points here.
1) Your perception may be right on. Seems like it could have been handled by the professor in a more subtle manner. But it is very possible that getting arrested is almost as good as getting an article published.
2) If you read the article in the Boston Globe, I didn't notice the reporting that the police state that he wouldn't identify himself. But if you read the article in the Seattle Times, :
" According to the police report, Gates initially refused to show identification." Education | Was arrest of Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. an act of racism? | Seattle Times Newspaper) (The NYTimes did include this as "He showed his drivers license and Harvard identification card,")
3) Also, it is entirely possible that the professor was simply having an 'Al Sharpton' moment, as he does not have a history, no pun intended, of shouting 'racism.' In fact, this professor was one of those who insists that it is not the total province of blacks to teach and research black history.
4) In summary, the racism aspect appears to be more the direction sought by the paper than the professor.
Don't forget that he was ultimately arrested for disorderly conduct. The officer was leaving. Yes, LEAVING. Gates followed him to his cruiser berating him and accusing him of racism. The officer warned him that he was becoming disorderly and that he would arrest him if he didn't calm down. He didn't, the officer followed through on his warning. All signs point to Gates wanting to be arrested.
o hold the fuck up..when is the last time a cop came to your house and ask you for id....well? i would not have been hostile as this but i would have refused to show my id in my own fucking home without a warrent...and i would have told the cop to get the fuck off my land...unless it was one of them i know...but i have a right to my damn privacy...if they got a warrent ....serve the fucker...if not..get the fuck out of my face and off my land.
So you don't believe in the concept of probable cause?
no...you come on my land you best have a fucking warrent..simple as that....if i follow you out to a public road..then the game changes...but on my land....i am the mistress...
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