Hamilton & Madison: What little you think you know.

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    Lots of shit-talkin' here about the US Constitution, The Federalist essays and other stuff.

    Do any of you who speak of The Federalist essays and orginial intent (original intent being a term coined after originalism was first used by Ed Meese in 1985) realize that both Madison and Hamilton spoke out of both sides of their mouths on how to interpret the Constitution?


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    Who said the US Constitution was nothing more than a draft?
    ...And who later used an argument that relied on text and inference alone and not the history of drafters and ratifiers?
     
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    Who said in 1791...
    ...then in 1796, we should analyze "the manner in which {the Constitution} was understood by the convention who framed it, and by the people who adopted it."

    two very contrary opinions by one of the authors of The Federalist essays.
     
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    The states ratified the Constitution based on the intent and assurances of that intent by those that crafted the Constitution. If you sign a contract do you want the other side of the contract changing the terms of the contract whenever it suits their purposes? That's called fraud.
     
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    Your blabberings are getting so convoluted not even -- I -- can follow them. That my friends deserves :clap2:


    :lol: :lol: :lol:


    Both Hamilton and Madison who wrote the essays (The Federalist) together and disagreed (on opposite political sides of two constitutional questions) on their meanings, Yet you somehow know what they and others intended by reading writings not even your own? :lol:



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    What is the point of your post? You seem to be talking alot of shit yourself without getting to the point. What are you trying to prove/disprove?
     
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    Something the OP knows plenty about.

    Most know this phenomenon by the term "trolling"
     
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    Disprove that most people who act with sureity about The Federalist have very little knowledge of the people who wrote the essays and what exact role they played...and when they do know---they are blinded by idiocy and ideology.

    The original intent of things is always open to interpretation where nuance is existing. When the founding fathers and framers wanted to be exact---they were. The constructions used in their writings and arguments atre many times all over the place. \They themselves seemed to be searching on how best to form a government...While people I criticize here seem to think/imagine they have a grasp of what was beyond the people they are quoting.

    There are writings by those great men where they warn against holding them up on pedastal or as oracles.

    (written late at night and on the fly---please excuse )
     
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    Oh the i-r-o-n-y!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    Go find some used cars to sell, trolly boy.
     

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