Haaretz: How Many Settlers Need to Be Evacuated to Make Way for a Palestinian State

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    E: How Many Settlers Need to Be Evacuated to Make Way for a Palestinian State
    ※→ Coyote, et al,

    IF the settler is no longer resident in sovereign Israeli territory, THEN they are not protected by Israel.
    IF the settler adopts Islam as the principle belief, THEN they are no longer Jewish.

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    IF the resident is no longer Israeli protected and a follower of Islam, THEN the resident no longer falls under the restrictive (Arab Palestinian) edicts.

    Muslims would be unfavorably looked upon IF they massacre fellow believers and followers of Islam.

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    Exactly. It IS unrealistic at the moment. But that should be what we are aiming for.

    If the Arab Palestinians are incapable of having a State where Jews and former Israeli citizens can live with full equality and mutual respect, then they are not ready to have a State. If they believe that Arabs and Jews must be separated in order to live in peace, then they are not ready to have a State. If they believe that their State is so fragile that a single Jew or former Israeli is a threat, then they are not ready to have a State.

    If the Arabs are trying to sell us on continued "resistance" (terrorism), then they are not ready to have a State. If the Arabs are trying to insist on a right of return for themselves to Israel but not for the Jewish people to Palestine, then they are not ready to have a State.
     
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    The only time Haaretz will allow facts - when it has an anti-Jewish twist.
    There won't be a word about the Arab demand for a totally Jew-free Palestine, because that makes the whole article groundless:



    So, you think it would be necessary to first transfer and remove every Jew?

    "Absolutely. No, I’m not saying to transfer every Jew, I’m saying transfer Jews who, after an agreement with Israel, fall under the jurisdiction of a Palestinian state."

    Any Jew who is inside the borders of Palestine will have to leave?

    "Absolutely. I think this is a very necessary step, before we can allow the two states to somehow develop their separate national identities, and then maybe open up the doors for all kinds of cultural, social, political, economic exchanges, that freedom of movement of both citizens of Israelis and Palestinians from one area to another. You know you have to think of the day after."

    MAEN RASHID AREIKAT
    The Palestinian ambassador to Washington


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    [​IMG] "They can be given the choice of staying an...becoming citizens of the new Palestinian state..."

    Salute !

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    ...to the new Palestinian state and citizenship for them !

    what about the terrorists ? [​IMG] if terrorists don't see that they're the worst humanity has to offer....they don't belong here:


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    I'm quiet shocked at how easily these alternatives are presented before 'the Jewish Settlers', forced conversion or exclusion from the heart of the Jewish historic homeland.

    This is even more confusing because there's a connotation that this is some centralized movement that has any real part in the govt policy making.
    What we've got on the ground is a small group of ideological 'hilltop' activists, with a vast majority of regular citizens, who bought apartments like any other regular citizen in an economically convenient area (Jerusalem and Tel-Aviv).
    These people have a wide variety of views, both left and right. Each neighborhood has developed a different level of understanding/cooperation between the Jewish and Arab communities on the ground.

    Q.How can a decision by these people have any influence on either of the governments?
    Q.Why should they be the ones to decide on any further "land - swaps"... some are ex-Gazans who were evicted a decade ago, now have to sign where further Jews would be banned?

    And the most important one - why all the fuss when time is on their side?

    This is exactly why 'the Jewish Settlers' are in their own a solution - if there's a Palestinian Arab state in Judea it must have a Jewish minority. If not, and G-d forbid the Israeli govt agrees to that, settlers will be the only sane group on the market,

    If they're evicted 'for peace', then it only supports the idea that Jews can learn to swim 'for peace'. For any further constructive discourse there must be settlers who'll ensure a Jewish minority.
     
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    I am shocked by the ease with which the global community accepts forced transfer of people. Well, if they are Jews anyway.
     
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    It’s a lot more complicated then that. Abbas has stated many times no Israelis in Palestine. The majority of Israel’s religious sites are in E. Jerusalem ; the PLO just came out and stated the Israelis have no rights to the Western Wall
    plus the “ Right of Return” which would eventually make the Jewish people a minority in their own Country
     
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    A better idea is to evacuate any so-called Palestinians that don't want to be Israeli and recognize that that is part of Israel.
     
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    One look at this map should immediately dispel the notion that Jewish "settlements" are the obstacle to peace, which is the current myth (read: deliberate falsehood) circulating in the global community. There is clearly a contiguous State available there, with only a tiny minority of Jews/Israelis in what would become Palestine.[/QUOTE]
     

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