Gun murder in the U.S. vs. murder in Europe....something to consider.

2aguy

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Something I bring up all the time since it is one of the biggest parts of the gun issue in the U.S......murder by government, since government is the greatest murderer in history.....

All the gun murder in the entire 246 year history of the U.S. is less than 6 years of government murder in Europe.....and yet the Europeans and their associated western countries think they have a superior system than we do....

How do they figure that?

Our 2nd Amendment is primarily a Right because of the fear of a violent, tyrannical government. Throughout history, government has been the worst murderer ....... all around the world without exception......

Yet....our European posters and their western associates in Canada, New Zealand, Australia.....think that our gun Rights are more of an issue....

Again in 246 years of gun murder in the U.S..... if you average 10,000 gun murders a year, with the vast majority of victims not innocent civilians, but violent criminals engaged in the criminal lifestyle....

2,460,000

Europe, between 1939-1946, really beginning in the early 1930s......

15 million murdered.


Not criminals, but innocent men, women and children, murdered by their governments cooperating with the German socialists.

This information, this historical fact, makes no difference to the anti-gunners on U.S.messageboard.....they seem to think that this was a fluke.....15 million murdered people.....it does boggle the mind that modern nation states could have done this ...but they did.

We are not talking about Medieval warlords.....Mongol hordes, Samurai warriors, Zulu kings....we are talking the modern nation states of 1930s Europe, with modern universities, democratic institutions, the rule of law, modern philosophical schools....religious institutions.....

and yet they still murdered innocent men, women and children. They rounded them up......put them on trains, marched them into forests....and murdered them. They were not criminals...they were not monsters. They were normal people....fathers, mothers, children. And their governments rounded them up and murdered them.

And these anti-gunners feel like they have the moral high ground when it comes to the gun control debate.

Are they delusional, dumb, or .......what?
 
1: What was the gun-related murder rate in (country x) before it enacted its gun control laws?
2: What was the gun-related murder rate in (country x) after it enacted its gun control laws?
3: Can you demonstrate the necessary relationship between those laws and the difference in murder rates?
If yes, then please proceed.
 
1: What was the gun-related murder rate in (country x) before it enacted its gun control laws?
2: What was the gun-related murder rate in (country x) after it enacted its gun control laws?
3: Can you demonstrate the necessary relationship between those laws and the difference in murder rates?
If yes, then please proceed.
in 1950 the murder rate in the US was 4.6/100K and in the UK it was .79/100K

in 2016 the US murder rate was 5.4/100K and the UK was 1.14/100K

In the US between 1950 and 2016 there have been literally thousands of guns laws both state and federal passed, we had a 10 year federal AWB and the murder rate is virtually the same as it was in 1950

In the time between 1950 and 2016 the UK passed draconian gun laws, banned handguns and most center fire rifles from civilians use and their murder rate is virtually the same as it was in 1950

One can only conclude that gun laws do not reduce the murder rate.
 
in 1950 the murder rate in the US was 4.6/100K and in the UK it was .79/100K

in 2016 the US murder rate was 5.4/100K and the UK was 1.14/100K

In the US between 1950 and 2016 there have been literally thousands of guns laws both state and federal passed, we had a 10 year federal AWB and the murder rate is virtually the same as it was in 1950

In the time between 1950 and 2016 the UK passed draconian gun laws, banned handguns and most center fire rifles from civilians use and their murder rate is virtually the same as it was in 1950

One can only conclude that gun laws do not reduce the murder rate.


Thank you for those stats. Do you have a link to those, I would like to have them for my own posts.......thanks.
 

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