guess who made their court date?

[iceberg]

It's a public trial. Everything will come out. They don't have secret state trials in the US.

It’s technical data which will not be made public in any sort of detail. Even in the trial. But given to hostile entities intact and in total, it could enable similar entities to hack future elections in the US and elsewhere.

You're always so full of bullshit!
Concord has called Mueller's bluff and now he has to put up or shut the fuck up!
Mueller can't decide which 'discovery' he gives to Concord. They get to see EVERY fucking detail.
The Mueller 'Inquisition' is going to blow up in his face.

No, I’m not full of bullshit. Mueller has a strong case. This is a ploy by Concord precisely because they WANT the discovery materials. Mueller is prepared to provide discovery of everything but Concord cannot disclose it to third parties.

The ONLY people who would reasonably side with Concord on this are Russian troll farmers and their bosses. They want the data for future elections.

If you side with Concord you are an enemy of the people of the USA. There is no other conclusion.

i side with our judicial system and dont want it getting into political games. he called them out, they showed up. follow our established process or get the fuck outta here.

Mueller IS following established procedures. The OP linked to a fake news website which totally misrepresented the situation. The piece I linked to had FACTS.

Mueller will provide full discovery, but Concord will be unable to use discovery for future attacks on the US nor will they be able to pass it along to other Russian disrupters for that purpose.

If you’re really an American, you should be supporting this.

i wrote the OP - and i stand behind it. just because you don't like it and disagree (gosh, i'm awash with surprise on that one) doesn't make them wrong and CNN, king of bullshit, right.

and again - the ONLY FUCKING THING RUSSIA DID was troll us. they did a great job of pitting one extreme against the other and in the end that's all they did, but did it very well.

if trolling is now illegal, there's a lot of people in here going to jail soon.

now - if russia found some secret to break into our system somehow - great. i would hope by now we've blocked it and any other method like it, making public knowledge of this a moot point. if russia did this act we're now taking them to trial for, then why not just say "fuck you" and stay in russia and tell everyone about how you got us to act so stupid for so long?

and don't give me that "if you're really an american" crap, ok? american is free speech and ability to express ourselves w/o fear of retribution or penalty. seems the libs are taking that away and forcing their views by using extreme measures like this crap you just pulled and nazi, racist and so forth.

 

[Care4all]

So what if the evidence is classified?...If the Russians really did what Muller says they did, they'd already know all about it.

Well I'll be darn! Hiya Oddball, long time no see!

The perps do know what they did, what they don't know, is how the FBI figured out what they did....what means they used, perhaps a source that Mueller does not want revealed? Or a method?

 

[Oddball]

The perps do know what they did, what they don't know, is how the FBI figured out what they did....what means they used, perhaps a source that Mueller does not want revealed? Or a method?

The defense has the right to know of all evidence against them, and how it was obtained....Muller knows this...He didn't expect these people to actually show up, and his showboating has painted him into a corner.

 

[Care4all]

The perps do know what they did, what they don't know, is how the FBI figured out what they did....what means they used, perhaps a source that Mueller does not want revealed? Or a method?

The defense has the right to know of all evidence against them, and how it was obtained....Muller knows this...He didn't expect these people to actually show up, and his showboating has painted him into a corner.

They personally didn't show up did they? I thought they hired an American Lawyer to show up... they have no intention of showing up and going to trial, is my understanding.... they hired the lawyer to exercise discovery....so they could find out what Mueller discovered about them, so to pass the information on, or use it to better hide their future endeavors.

 

[Oddball]

They personally didn't show up did they? I thought they hired an American Lawyer to show up... they have no intention of showing up and going to trial, is my understanding.... they hired the lawyer to exercise discovery....so they could find out what Mueller discovered about them, so to pass the information on, or use it to better hide their future endeavors.

Hiring a lawyer legally means they showed up...They have a right to see ALL evidence against them...Muller is fucked.

 

[iceberg]

So what if the evidence is classified?...If the Russians really did what Muller says they did, they'd already know all about it.

Well I'll be darn! Hiya Oddball, long time no see!

The perps do know what they did, what they don't know, is how the FBI figured out what they did....what means they used, perhaps a source that Mueller does not want revealed? Or a method?

well you and dragonlady are at odds.

you're saying pretty much what zerohedge said. dragonlady is saying we'll tell them but they have to keep it a secret.

yea, we don't trust you but can you make sure not to tell others how to jack with us?

 

[Care4all]

They personally didn't show up did they? I thought they hired an American Lawyer to show up... they have no intention of showing up and going to trial, is my understanding.... they hired the lawyer to exercise discovery....so they could find out what Mueller discovered about them, so to pass the information on, or use it to better hide their future endeavors.

Hiring a lawyer legally means they showed up...They have a right to see ALL evidence against them...Muller is fucked.

why do you think he's f-d? and do i sense your JOY in this?

 

[iceberg]

The perps do know what they did, what they don't know, is how the FBI figured out what they did....what means they used, perhaps a source that Mueller does not want revealed? Or a method?

The defense has the right to know of all evidence against them, and how it was obtained....Muller knows this...He didn't expect these people to actually show up, and his showboating has painted him into a corner.

They personally didn't show up did they? I thought they hired an American Lawyer to show up... they have no intention of showing up and going to trial, is my understanding.... they hired the lawyer to exercise discovery....so they could find out what Mueller discovered about them, so to pass the information on, or use it to better hide their future endeavors.

ie - they're there and ready to go the next steps in legal representation.

according to our laws and court system, we must show all evidence to them at this point and now - it's a fight.

everything is a fight when we don't get our way and our rules - well we toss them out the window because of whatever reason we need to at the time and don't hold anyone accountable anymore for not following our own rules.

we really need to get back to holding people accountable starting with ourselves, not the russians.

 

[iceberg]

They personally didn't show up did they? I thought they hired an American Lawyer to show up... they have no intention of showing up and going to trial, is my understanding.... they hired the lawyer to exercise discovery....so they could find out what Mueller discovered about them, so to pass the information on, or use it to better hide their future endeavors.

Hiring a lawyer legally means they showed up...They have a right to see ALL evidence against them...Muller is fucked.

why do you think he's f-d? and do i sense your JOY in this?

there's no joy - but mueller used our system and now he's wanting to change it cause his bluff got called.

no. right wrong or whatever hell may come out of it - we follow our own laws or what is the point of even having them when they can be changed on emotional outbursts?

 

[Rustic]

It's a public trial. Everything will come out. They don't have secret state trials in the US.

It’s technical data which will not be made public in any sort of detail. Even in the trial. But given to hostile entities intact and in total, it could enable similar entities to hack future elections in the US and elsewhere.

You're always so full of bullshit!
Concord has called Mueller's bluff and now he has to put up or shut the fuck up!
Mueller can't decide which 'discovery' he gives to Concord. They get to see EVERY fucking detail.
The Mueller 'Inquisition' is going to blow up in his face.

No, I’m not full of bullshit. Mueller has a strong case. This is a ploy by Concord precisely because they WANT the discovery materials. Mueller is prepared to provide discovery of everything but Concord cannot disclose it to third parties.

The ONLY people who would reasonably side with Concord on this are Russian troll farmers and their bosses. They want the data for future elections.

If you side with Concord you are an enemy of the people of the USA. There is no other conclusion.

i side with our judicial system and dont want it getting into political games. he called them out, they showed up. follow our established process or get the fuck outta here.

Mueller IS following established procedures. The OP linked to a fake news website which totally misrepresented the situation. The piece I linked to had FACTS.

Mueller will provide full discovery, but Concord will be unable to use discovery for future attacks on the US nor will they be able to pass it along to other Russian disrupters for that purpose.

If you’re really an American, you should be supporting this.

Lol
Says a socialist...

 

[Care4all]

They personally didn't show up did they? I thought they hired an American Lawyer to show up... they have no intention of showing up and going to trial, is my understanding.... they hired the lawyer to exercise discovery....so they could find out what Mueller discovered about them, so to pass the information on, or use it to better hide their future endeavors.

Hiring a lawyer legally means they showed up...They have a right to see ALL evidence against them...Muller is fucked.

why do you think he's f-d? and do i sense your JOY in this?

there's no joy - but mueller used our system and now he's wanting to change it cause his bluff got called.

no. right wrong or whatever hell may come out of it - we follow our own laws or what is the point of even having them when they can be changed on emotional outbursts?

we do follow our own laws, and Mueller will handle this, in whatever way is best for the integrity and continuation of the investigation.... he has options.

 

[ChrisL]

I can't wait to see how this all ends up playing out in the end. Will be interesting.

 

[iceberg]

They personally didn't show up did they? I thought they hired an American Lawyer to show up... they have no intention of showing up and going to trial, is my understanding.... they hired the lawyer to exercise discovery....so they could find out what Mueller discovered about them, so to pass the information on, or use it to better hide their future endeavors.

Hiring a lawyer legally means they showed up...They have a right to see ALL evidence against them...Muller is fucked.

why do you think he's f-d? and do i sense your JOY in this?

there's no joy - but mueller used our system and now he's wanting to change it cause his bluff got called.

no. right wrong or whatever hell may come out of it - we follow our own laws or what is the point of even having them when they can be changed on emotional outbursts?

we do follow our own laws, and Mueller will handle this, in whatever way is best for the integrity and continuation of the investigation.... he has options.

you don't have options with disclosure. there are no surprises in court. if one comes up you stop and give the other party time to look into it.

he's accused someone and now doesn't want to show the evidence.

that's not how this works, unless you're for changing our own system to fit our own needs "at will". and to me, that's what got us so at odds to begin with.

 

[Care4all]

They personally didn't show up did they? I thought they hired an American Lawyer to show up... they have no intention of showing up and going to trial, is my understanding.... they hired the lawyer to exercise discovery....so they could find out what Mueller discovered about them, so to pass the information on, or use it to better hide their future endeavors.

Hiring a lawyer legally means they showed up...They have a right to see ALL evidence against them...Muller is fucked.

why do you think he's f-d? and do i sense your JOY in this?

there's no joy - but mueller used our system and now he's wanting to change it cause his bluff got called.

no. right wrong or whatever hell may come out of it - we follow our own laws or what is the point of even having them when they can be changed on emotional outbursts?

we do follow our own laws, and Mueller will handle this, in whatever way is best for the integrity and continuation of the investigation.... he has options.

you don't have options with disclosure. there are no surprises in court. if one comes up you stop and give the other party time to look into it.

he's accused someone and now doesn't want to show the evidence.

that's not how this works, unless you're for changing our own system to fit our own needs "at will". and to me, that's what got us so at odds to begin with.

nope, the gateway pundit is fake news.... I know you don't like to hear this, but they make up shit and do not have to support it with any evidence.... 90% of what they report is fake, or opinion....or spin, not news.

Mueller can also drop the charge for now....if this information chances hurting his continuing investigation.

 

[evenflow1969]

They personally didn't show up did they? I thought they hired an American Lawyer to show up... they have no intention of showing up and going to trial, is my understanding.... they hired the lawyer to exercise discovery....so they could find out what Mueller discovered about them, so to pass the information on, or use it to better hide their future endeavors.

Hiring a lawyer legally means they showed up...They have a right to see ALL evidence against them...Muller is fucked.

why do you think he's f-d? and do i sense your JOY in this?

there's no joy - but mueller used our system and now he's wanting to change it cause his bluff got called.

no. right wrong or whatever hell may come out of it - we follow our own laws or what is the point of even having them when they can be changed on emotional outbursts?

Mueller will be compeled to follow our laws. He has not made a fatal flaw, to recover all he has to do is drop the charges on the companies and keep the charges on the individuals. Problem solved. I am sure there will be more manuvering on both sides, if not it is shitty attornies handeling the case.

 

[iceberg]

Hiring a lawyer legally means they showed up...They have a right to see ALL evidence against them...Muller is fucked.

why do you think he's f-d? and do i sense your JOY in this?

there's no joy - but mueller used our system and now he's wanting to change it cause his bluff got called.

no. right wrong or whatever hell may come out of it - we follow our own laws or what is the point of even having them when they can be changed on emotional outbursts?

we do follow our own laws, and Mueller will handle this, in whatever way is best for the integrity and continuation of the investigation.... he has options.

you don't have options with disclosure. there are no surprises in court. if one comes up you stop and give the other party time to look into it.

he's accused someone and now doesn't want to show the evidence.

that's not how this works, unless you're for changing our own system to fit our own needs "at will". and to me, that's what got us so at odds to begin with.

nope, the gateway pundit is fake news.... I know you don't like to hear this, but they make up shit and do not have to support it with any evidence.... 90% of what they report is fake, or opinion....or spin, not news.

Mueller can also drop the charge for now....if this information chances hurting his continuing investigation.

great.

now i didn't use that site now did i?

i know you don't like to hear this - but your not right simply because you and i disagree.

life doesn't work that way either.

one day i'll see you admit you were wrong. maybe.

 

[iceberg]

They personally didn't show up did they? I thought they hired an American Lawyer to show up... they have no intention of showing up and going to trial, is my understanding.... they hired the lawyer to exercise discovery....so they could find out what Mueller discovered about them, so to pass the information on, or use it to better hide their future endeavors.

Hiring a lawyer legally means they showed up...They have a right to see ALL evidence against them...Muller is fucked.

why do you think he's f-d? and do i sense your JOY in this?

there's no joy - but mueller used our system and now he's wanting to change it cause his bluff got called.

no. right wrong or whatever hell may come out of it - we follow our own laws or what is the point of even having them when they can be changed on emotional outbursts?

Mueller will be compeled to follow our laws. He has not made a fatal flaw, to recover all he has to do is drop the charges on the companies and keep the charges on the individuals. Problem solved. I am sure there will be more manuvering on both sides, if not it is shitty attornies handeling the case.

doing anything outside process is only going to draw more suspicious thoughts..

 

[ChrisL]

I can't wait to see all of this "evidence" of collusion. This is going to be bigly great. I can't wait to hear more.

 

[evenflow1969]

They personally didn't show up did they? I thought they hired an American Lawyer to show up... they have no intention of showing up and going to trial, is my understanding.... they hired the lawyer to exercise discovery....so they could find out what Mueller discovered about them, so to pass the information on, or use it to better hide their future endeavors.

Hiring a lawyer legally means they showed up...They have a right to see ALL evidence against them...Muller is fucked.

why do you think he's f-d? and do i sense your JOY in this?

there's no joy - but mueller used our system and now he's wanting to change it cause his bluff got called.

no. right wrong or whatever hell may come out of it - we follow our own laws or what is the point of even having them when they can be changed on emotional outbursts?

Mueller will be compeled to follow our laws. He has not made a fatal flaw, to recover all he has to do is drop the charges on the companies and keep the charges on the individuals. Problem solved. I am sure there will be more manuvering on both sides, if not it is shitty attornies handeling the case.

doing anything outside process is only going to draw more suspicious thoughts..

What was outside of process, he can not break the law with every one watching or he goes to jail himself. He excersized poor stratigy but it is easily fixed. Stupid to bring charges so early but not illegal. I do not know why we keep talking about this. What happens is what happens, none of us are privey to what mueler has or does not have. I plan to just wait and see what happens every thing is just conjecture till then! Unless some one wants to start offering odds I am losing interest. I know this, no sitting president has been found guilty at impeachment, so I would want at least 40 to 1 odds on Trump being removed from office before I wouold even consider betting on it. History sais not very likely a sitting pres goes down. Waist of time for both sides if ya ask me!

 

[Dragonlady]

It’s technical data which will not be made public in any sort of detail. Even in the trial. But given to hostile entities intact and in total, it could enable similar entities to hack future elections in the US and elsewhere.

You're always so full of bullshit!
Concord has called Mueller's bluff and now he has to put up or shut the fuck up!
Mueller can't decide which 'discovery' he gives to Concord. They get to see EVERY fucking detail.
The Mueller 'Inquisition' is going to blow up in his face.

No, I’m not full of bullshit. Mueller has a strong case. This is a ploy by Concord precisely because they WANT the discovery materials. Mueller is prepared to provide discovery of everything but Concord cannot disclose it to third parties.

The ONLY people who would reasonably side with Concord on this are Russian troll farmers and their bosses. They want the data for future elections.

If you side with Concord you are an enemy of the people of the USA. There is no other conclusion.

i side with our judicial system and dont want it getting into political games. he called them out, they showed up. follow our established process or get the fuck outta here.

Mueller IS following established procedures. The OP linked to a fake news website which totally misrepresented the situation. The piece I linked to had FACTS.

Mueller will provide full discovery, but Concord will be unable to use discovery for future attacks on the US nor will they be able to pass it along to other Russian disrupters for that purpose.

If you’re really an American, you should be supporting this.

i wrote the OP - and i stand behind it. just because you don't like it and disagree (gosh, i'm awash with surprise on that one) doesn't make them wrong and CNN, king of bullshit, right.

and again - the ONLY FUCKING THING RUSSIA DID was troll us. they did a great job of pitting one extreme against the other and in the end that's all they did, but did it very well.

if trolling is now illegal, there's a lot of people in here going to jail soon.

now - if russia found some secret to break into our system somehow - great. i would hope by now we've blocked it and any other method like it, making public knowledge of this a moot point. if russia did this act we're now taking them to trial for, then why not just say "fuck you" and stay in russia and tell everyone about how you got us to act so stupid for so long?

and don't give me that "if you're really an american" crap, ok? american is free speech and ability to express ourselves w/o fear of retribution or penalty. seems the libs are taking that away and forcing their views by using extreme measures like this crap you just pulled and nazi, racist and so forth.

You OP linked to false information. It said Mueller was refusing to provide discovery, but even if you read the piece it then refuted that headline.

The perps do know what they did, what they don't know, is how the FBI figured out what they did....what means they used, perhaps a source that Mueller does not want revealed? Or a method?

The defense has the right to know of all evidence against them, and how it was obtained....Muller knows this...He didn't expect these people to actually show up, and his showboating has painted him into a corner.

So now you’re pretending you know what Mueller is thinking? You have no idea what you’re talking about but you keep spewing lies and disinformation.

Where is YOUR evidence to back up these assertions? Why are you SO opposed to Mueller protecting national security against a foreign adversary.

Why do you keep making out that Mueller is being dishonest here when you really have no idea?

Why are you suborning the unrestricted disclosure of classified information of a foreign adversary?