Greatest American President

[Wyld Kard]

I'm firmly of the opinion that - in order to be weighed as Best, Worst, etc. - the object of the exercise needs to have completed his term and left office.

An understandable opinion--even though we all know that President Obama is the best, we should at least allow hym to reign in peace and exit office when he feels like it without preemptively announcing him as the greatest humyn being to ever live. It's just bad form, I suppose, much like how announcing hym as the victor of the presidential contests in 2008 and 2012 ahead of the polls closing would've been impolite.

we all know that President Obama is the best

Speak for yourself.

I can't stand that corrupt, incompetent, lying, fraud and piece-of-shit.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

If you think Obama-care was difficult you should have seen the war against Social Security. Some were convinced that as soon as Social Security passed America would become a communist-socialist-fascist-nation.

that is the natural direction of government. It didn't happen here yet because of Aristotelian Jeffersonian Republican resistence!!

Thomas Jefferson:
"the natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to grain ground; that the greater the government the stronger the exploiter and the weaker the producer; that , therefore, the hope of liberty depends upon local self-governance and the vigilance of the producer class."

Why are you quoting a democrat like Jefferson?

Thomas Jefferson The slave owner who is a Democrat?

dear, what about Jefferson?? You forgot to say. Slow??

Blame iOS-8 software upgrade on my iPad mini.

 

[Wyld Kard]

Who, in your opinion, has been the greatest U.S. President thus far? And no, I don't care about the results of that stupid poll from several weeks back. What do YOU think, and why?

My answer is, without hesitation, President Obama. He's given us the ACA, stronger restrictions on predatory lending by credit card companies, heightened awareness to political con artists (like the Tea Party Express) attempting to operate under a tax-exempt banner, a freer Middle East with functioning democracies (Libya, Egypt, Iraq) and budding pro-democracy movements (Turkey, Syria, Iran), and a rebounding economy after what many have called the worst economic conditions we've seen since the Great Depression. He won the Nobel Peace Prize and immediately used that to bring peace to Libya by removing their evil dictator who killed his own people.

Truly, this country has seen no greater leader than the one we have currently.

Obama has done a great job no doubt.

Obama has done a great job at continually lying and deceiving the American people.

 

[turtledude]

I still nominate Millard Fillmore. The only fault found with Fillmore was that most people did not know of him so he had no negatives. All the other nominations came with baggage attached, the biggest baggage is that they tried to do something. Fillmore was born in a log cabin and in those days one had to be born in a log cabin. Fillmore was not a Democrat or Republican but a Whig, another positive. Fillmore greatest contribution to American is that he was a do-nothing president. Presidents that try to do something are generally hated by Americans. In fact, it is those presidents that do something that we hate. Nope Fillmore is my nomination, a do-nothing, for greatest American president.

Millard was an ancestor of mine. His most notable accomplishment was what he did when the Dean and masters of Oxford University gave him an Honorary degree. He sent it back with a note explaining that he did not have the benefit of a "classical education" and therefore could not read or write Latin. He stated that nothing would be more presumptuous than holding a degree one could not even read so he had to return it.

 

[turtledude]

Presidents are judged by what they leave behind. Legacies can't be established until long after they are gone. That takes all recent Presidents out of the running for other than gossip and irrelevant opinions based on political beliefs. In addition, various special interest entities wage campaigns to promote or degenerate opinions about Presidents to influence ideological attitudes. Reagan and FDR are examples of this. Those who admire Reagan promote his strengths and accomplishments while others bash FDR because of his failures and mistakes. The Reagan promoters ignore his failures and those who bash FDR ignore his accomplishments. In the end the greatness of a President is determined after his supporters are gone and a non biased public can look around at the the tangible accomplishments that took hold and continue to impact their lives in a positive of negative way.

If you like socialism, destruction of the limits placed on congress and the federal government by the founders, then FDR was a great president. If you despise his crapping on the 10th Amendment then you see FDR as the most pernicious man to ever hold the office. I am in the latter. I admit he was an EFFECTIVE President in using a crisis to destroy the existing rules in place

 

[Camp]

My post is pragmatic. Yours is emotionally biased.

 

[turtledude]

My post is pragmatic. Yours is emotionally biased.

you are a legend in your own mind. I am a truth sayer

 

[Camp]

My post is pragmatic. Yours is emotionally biased.

you are a legend in your own mind. I am a truth sayer

Perhaps you don't know the meaning of the word pragmatic.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Camp,

Although previous generations revered FDR for keeping this country alive, when the world economy was collapsing, the present generation of Tea Partiers have explained to us that FDR was actually a commie, and that we would have been better off if he had been shot dead in 1934.

Isn't continuing education wonderful?

 

[turtledude]

My post is pragmatic. Yours is emotionally biased.

you are a legend in your own mind. I am a truth sayer

Perhaps you don't know the meaning of the word pragmatic.

I doubt you are in a position to even fathom what I understand. FDR was a turd. our country would have been better off if he had never been in office

 

[turtledude]

Camp,

Although previous generations revered FDR for keeping this country alive, when the world economy was collapsing, the present generation of Tea Partiers have explained to us that FDR was actually a commie, and that we would have been better off if he had been shot dead in 1934.

Isn't continuing education wonderful?

you engage in a faith based belief that FDRs massive disruption of the limited nature of federal government including the destruction of procedural due process, the tenth amendment and idiocy like the WICKARD case and the National Firearms Act was needed to save the USA

it was not and much of the crap he did extended the malaise and the stuff some claimed help should not have been permanent nor incorporated into our jurisprudential fabric so as to plague us to this day

 

[Pogo]

William Henry Harrison.

Unquestionably did less damage than anyone else.

 

[turtledude]

William Henry Harrison.

Unquestionably did less damage than anyone else.

a fair amount of Native Americans might suggest otherwise but you are technically correct since he wasn't president then

another one of my ancestors.

 

[Meathead]

I still nominate Millard Fillmore. The only fault found with Fillmore was that most people did not know of him so he had no negatives. All the other nominations came with baggage attached, the biggest baggage is that they tried to do something. Fillmore was born in a log cabin and in those days one had to be born in a log cabin. Fillmore was not a Democrat or Republican but a Whig, another positive. Fillmore greatest contribution to American is that he was a do-nothing president. Presidents that try to do something are generally hated by Americans. In fact, it is those presidents that do something that we hate. Nope Fillmore is my nomination, a do-nothing, for greatest American president.

Millard was an ancestor of mine. His most notable accomplishment was what he did when the Dean and masters of Oxford University gave him an Honorary degree. He sent it back with a note explaining that he did not have the benefit of a "classical education" and therefore could not read or write Latin. He stated that nothing would be more presumptuous than holding a degree one could not even read so he had to return it.

Obama lacked the class of Filmore in his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

[Oldstyle]

I still nominate Millard Fillmore. The only fault found with Fillmore was that most people did not know of him so he had no negatives. All the other nominations came with baggage attached, the biggest baggage is that they tried to do something. Fillmore was born in a log cabin and in those days one had to be born in a log cabin. Fillmore was not a Democrat or Republican but a Whig, another positive. Fillmore greatest contribution to American is that he was a do-nothing president. Presidents that try to do something are generally hated by Americans. In fact, it is those presidents that do something that we hate. Nope Fillmore is my nomination, a do-nothing, for greatest American president.

Millard was an ancestor of mine. His most notable accomplishment was what he did when the Dean and masters of Oxford University gave him an Honorary degree. He sent it back with a note explaining that he did not have the benefit of a "classical education" and therefore could not read or write Latin. He stated that nothing would be more presumptuous than holding a degree one could not even read so he had to return it.

Obama lacked the class of Filmore in his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize.

Let's be honest here...Barack Obama has been accepting things that he hasn't really EARNED since he got into Columbia. What would make him think that a Nobel Peace Prize wasn't just one more thing that he "deserved"?

 

[regent]

I still nominate Millard Fillmore. The only fault found with Fillmore was that most people did not know of him so he had no negatives. All the other nominations came with baggage attached, the biggest baggage is that they tried to do something. Fillmore was born in a log cabin and in those days one had to be born in a log cabin. Fillmore was not a Democrat or Republican but a Whig, another positive. Fillmore greatest contribution to American is that he was a do-nothing president. Presidents that try to do something are generally hated by Americans. In fact, it is those presidents that do something that we hate. Nope Fillmore is my nomination, a do-nothing, for greatest American president.

Millard was an ancestor of mine. His most notable accomplishment was what he did when the Dean and masters of Oxford University gave him an Honorary degree. He sent it back with a note explaining that he did not have the benefit of a "classical education" and therefore could not read or write Latin. He stated that nothing would be more presumptuous than holding a degree one could not even read so he had to return it.

Obama lacked the class of Filmore in his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize.

Let's be honest here...Barack Obama has been accepting things that he hasn't really EARNED since he got into Columbia. What would make him think that a Nobel Peace Prize wasn't just one more thing that he "deserved"?

Obama-care alone knocks Obama out of the running. Reagan tripling the debt disqualifies him. Another plus for Fillmore not even accepting a degree. Can anyone come up with a president that did less than Fillmore? How many posters write nasty things about Fillmore and his failures, truly the perfect president. .

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Camp,

Although previous generations revered FDR for keeping this country alive, when the world economy was collapsing,

dear, you are the perfect example of pure liberal ignorance. We did not want to be kept barely alive in a Depression for 10 years and then fight a world war. We wanted an instant economic recovery and peace.

Cant you imagine how perfectly ignorant you seem to us?

 

[regent]

Camp,

Although previous generations revered FDR for keeping this country alive, when the world economy was collapsing,

dear, you are the perfect example of pure liberal ignorance. We did not want to be kept barely alive in a Depression for 10 years and then fight a world war. We wanted an instant economic recovery and peace.

Cant you imagine how perfectly ignorant you seem to us?

Yep, you people must have gone through hell, I mean the Great Depression and the WWII. You certainly deserved an instant economic recovery and then peace. Are you one of those that voted for FDR four times?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Camp,

Although previous generations revered FDR for keeping this country alive, when the world economy was collapsing,

dear, you are the perfect example of pure liberal ignorance. We did not want to be kept barely alive in a Depression for 10 years and then fight a world war. We wanted an instant economic recovery and peace.

Cant you imagine how perfectly ignorant you seem to us?

Yep, you people must have gone through hell, I mean the Great Depression and the WWII. You certainly deserved an instant economic recovery and then peace. Are you one of those that voted for FDR four times?

dear, cut the BS, defend FDR, or admit you lack the IQ to be here.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

, a freer Middle East with functioning democracies (Libya, Egypt, Iraq).

are you drunk??

Drunk? She's brilliant. Though this belongs in "satire" not "politics."

LM lampoons leftists better than anyone since the brilliant Bil Stunbmun.

you cant really lampoon leftists can you given that they natually have no sense?

A conservative talking like a dumb liberal is talking the way liberal always talk so the two will be indistinguishable.