Government too Big? – Where would you cost?

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    Government too Big? – Where would you cut cost?

    The 2010 budget is approximately $3600 billion dollars. In round numbers it breaks down as follows:
    20% for Defense and Security
    21% for Medicare and Medicaid
    20% for Social Security
    6% for Interest on the National Debt
    14% for Safety Net Programs
    20% Other Programs


    See Policy Basics: Where Do Our Federal Tax Dollars Go? — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities for the make up of Safety Net and Other Programs.

    Note: Obama Healthcare is not included:
    The CBO projects a budget increase of 950 billion over 10 yrs (95 billion/yr or 2.5% increase).
    The GOP projects a budget increase of 1960 billion over 10 yrs (196 billion/yr or 5% increase).
    Information On President Obama’s Health Care Budget - GOP.gov
     
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    Start by cutting all earmarks. If you don't want to cut all then at least cut the most wasteful such as $$ to an airport in Penn. that serves less than 100 patrons (Remote Murtha airport lands big bucks from Washington - CNN.com), Turtle bridges ($3.4 Million of Federal Stimulus Money to Pay for Turtle Tunnel - WCJB TV-20) and etc. Then cut all waste and fraud from all entitlement programs. Tort reform will cut billions each year for unnecessary tests doctors request so they are not sued. That's just a few off the top of my head.
     
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    Cut budgets by 1/3 across the board, and junk the let's-put-the-insurance-companies-out-of-business "healthcare reform" bill that was just rammed up our butts.

    The abolish outright the Departments of Education, Energy, Commerce, HUD and DHS.

    Next, privatize the FAA, TSA, CPB/PBS/NPR, FDA and outright junk the ATF, DEA and the idiotic "war" on (some) drugs.

    Corporate welfare...Gone.
    Farm subsidies and price supports...Gone.
    Cash foreign aid...History.

    And those are just off the top of my head.
     
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    IMHO, eliminating earmarks don't reduce appropriations but greatly increase the chances that the funds will be spent wisely. Tort reform is way overdue.

    I am very dubious about any new program to reduce fraud. It seams that government response to accusations of fraud is to add additional procedures, paper work, and investigators which cost more money than it saves. I remember accusation by congress of fraud and misuse of funds by FEMA. It resulted in the agency putting so many checks and balances in their application process that it took forever for people who needed help to get it.

    I have always wondered why government does not implement waste reduction programs where employees can recommend actions to reduce waste and receive a share of the savings. It seems to work in many business.
     
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    First you have to abolish Congress
     
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    Let me be the first to say it: I'd like to cut every single department and program of the federal government that isn't listed in the Constitution. National debt? WHAT national debt? Confiscatory taxes? Not necessary. Government red tape pushing businesses to other countries? Pfft.

    If you really believe any of the things the government is doing right now that AREN'T mentioned in the Constitution are so damned important and necessary, then get them legally, by convincing the rest of the country to agree with you and amending the Constitution.
     
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    Reagan had it right. You cannot reduce costs by starting with costs. You reduce costs by starting with revenue.
    Cut income taxes. Eliminate the corporate tax. Eliminate the stupid estate tax. Institute a flat tax whose return can be put on a card and mailed in. Eliminate witholding on payrolls so people understand they are paying their money t the government.
    The reduced revenue will cause spending to decline.
     
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    Let's just start in alphabetical order

    Administration for Children and Families (ACF)
    Administration for Native Americans
    Administration on Aging (AoA)
    Administration on Developmental Disabilities
    Administrative Committee of the Federal Register
    Advisory Council on Historic Preservation
    African Development Foundation
    Agency for International Development
    Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry
    Agricultural Marketing Service
    Agricultural Research Service
    Alabama Home Page
    Alabama State, County, and City Websites
    Alaska Home Page
    Alaska State, County, and City Websites
    Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau
    American Battle Monuments Commission
    American Samoa Home Page
    AMTRAK (National Railroad Passenger Corporation)
    Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service
    Appalachian Regional Commission
    Architect of the Capitol
    Architectural and Transportation Barriers Compliance Board (Access Board)
    Arctic Research Commission
    Arizona Home Page
    Arizona State, County, and City Websites
    Arkansas Home Page
    Arkansas State, County, and City Websites
    Arms Control and International Security
    Arthritis and Musculoskeletal Interagency Coordinating Committee


    Want me to actually go thru the entire alphabet, or do you get the picture that government is way too big and wayyyyyyyy to bloated with power and unnecessary spending??
     
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    Sure as hell worked with Bush Jr. didn't it?

    You conservatives live in a never-never land. You constantly suck off the government tit, and then complain about spending.

    So, let's balance the budget. First, since my paycheck reflects a 30% or more tax burden, every income in the nation that is larger than mine, should pay at least that much on all income. Why should Warren Buffet pay only 17%? Why should Exxon pay 0%?

    Next, if a nation has lousy labor laws, safety, enviormental laws, any goods from that nation will see a hefty import tax on all products. Free trade only with nations of equal safety, labor, and enviornmental laws.

    A tax of at least 25% on all imported energy, the proceeds of which go to establish a pollution free energy system here in the US.
     

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