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The Dems got pissed because Hatch brought up a bill that would defund some very unused rural area airports, about 10 of them. They don't' have enough traffic to keep them going without Federal subsidies.
We could save about 200 billion a year with them being shut down.
Most of them were built by pork, by Dem's, so that they would have more convince. They had these rural airports built for them, to fly home on weekends, instead of having to drive from the bigger airports.
Poor little Dem's will have to drive a few miles out of their way to go home to their districts.
Alaska and Hawaii were exempt because that is mostly how they travel, in samll planes.
Ironically, most of those "rural airports" are used by people who own private planes, and they're the ones who get a tax break for owning said planes. For that reason, I'm not sure this particular argument will have a leg to stand on. When Republicans start actually looking at tax breaks (i.e., subsidies) that go for such things, they may decide it's better not to open that can of worms regarding where those private airplanes are parked.
Not so ironically, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Saved by a House bill provision. Plain and simple. False crisis manufactured by your friends at the Democratic Party.
Surely you jest.
This will be interim funding, and the riders have yet to be debated.
You've actually surpassed rdean and Truthmatters for partisan dipshittedness.Bravo!
Congress has temporarily extended FAA's funding 20 times since the law expired in 2007. Congress has stalled on the 21st extension because the House version of the bill included cutbacks to rural airport subsidies. Senate leaders cried foul, saying that stopgap bills are no place for policy debates. Only once since 2007 have lawmakers added policy-related provisions to the FAA extensions. After the Colgan Flight 3407 accident in 2009 in Buffalo, N.Y., the FAA extension that Congress passed the following year included pilot-safety provisions.
Need 'compromise' or FAA won't function, Transportation secretary says -- GovExec.com
Moron.
The temporary deal contains $16.5m (£10m) of Republican-backed cuts in air service subsidies to rural communities.
The bill allows the FAA to continue operating until September, when Congress returns from summer recess.
"This agreement does not resolve the important differences that still remain," Mr Reid said on Thursday as he announced the accord. "But I believe we should keep Americans working while Congress settles its differences and this agreement will do exactly that."
Republicans had insisted on the $16.5m in cuts to 13 rural communities in return for restoring the FAA to full operation.
The measures only keep the US air safety agency going until mid-September, setting the stage for a fresh political row when lawmakers return from their summer break, say analysts.
The Wingnuts in the House targeted only small airports in Blue states, stuck it in the bill without any negotiation with the Senate, then left town.
That shit don't fly, and they know it.
How is the GOP going to make up this lost revenue?
The Senate was perfectly free to pass its own version of the bill and send it to a conference committee, the same way things have been done for over 200 years.. Where is that bill?
[Sigh...]
Professional Aviation Safety Specialists (PASS) Region II : PASS Legislative Update for July 1, 2011
That page tracked the genesis of the bill at Opencongress.org/bill/all.The Senate passed its version of the FAA reauthorization legislation (S. 223) in February and the House passed its version (H.R. 658) in April. The two versions are now in an informal conference and PASS continues to lobby on numerous issues important to PASS members (see Legislative Update, May 27, 2011). However, House and Senate lawmakers remain at odds over several issues including funding levels, the Essential Air Service program and a House-passed provision that would overturn a National Mediation Board ruling regarding union elections.
Ironically, most of those "rural airports" are used by people who own private planes, and they're the ones who get a tax break for owning said planes. For that reason, I'm not sure this particular argument will have a leg to stand on. When Republicans start actually looking at tax breaks (i.e., subsidies) that go for such things, they may decide it's better not to open that can of worms regarding where those private airplanes are parked.
Not so ironically, you have no idea what you are talking about.
I know there's a private airfield within 15 miles of where I live, and only two commercial flights a day by Colgan to and from Boston. The rest of the fleet one can see from the highway belongs to private owners, who keep the airport open because they lobbied for it. Next?
QPW does not understand this issue.
Somebody please explain it to him.
Can't be done. You were using English, small words, and everything.
Surely you jest.
This will be interim funding, and the riders have yet to be debated.
You've actually surpassed rdean and Truthmatters for partisan dipshittedness.
Congress has temporarily extended FAA's funding 20 times since the law expired in 2007. Congress has stalled on the 21st extension because the House version of the bill included cutbacks to rural airport subsidies. Senate leaders cried foul, saying that stopgap bills are no place for policy debates. Only once since 2007 have lawmakers added policy-related provisions to the FAA extensions. After the Colgan Flight 3407 accident in 2009 in Buffalo, N.Y., the FAA extension that Congress passed the following year included pilot-safety provisions.
Need 'compromise' or FAA won't function, Transportation secretary says -- GovExec.com
Moron.
Sorry, buddy, but that is EXACTLY what happened. Feel better, now that you got to call me a moron, though? Ignorant asshole? There...I sure did.
Now, on to the facts, idiot:
BBC News - FAA shutdown: Congress passes funding bill
The temporary deal contains $16.5m (£10m) of Republican-backed cuts in air service subsidies to rural communities.
The bill allows the FAA to continue operating until September, when Congress returns from summer recess.
"This agreement does not resolve the important differences that still remain," Mr Reid said on Thursday as he announced the accord. "But I believe we should keep Americans working while Congress settles its differences and this agreement will do exactly that."
Republicans had insisted on the $16.5m in cuts to 13 rural communities in return for restoring the FAA to full operation.
The measures only keep the US air safety agency going until mid-September, setting the stage for a fresh political row when lawmakers return from their summer break, say analysts.
QPW does not understand this issue.
Somebody please explain it to him.
QPW does not understand this issue.
Somebody please explain it to him.
Can't be done. You were using English, small words, and everything.
The Senate was perfectly free to pass its own version of the bill and send it to a conference committee, the same way things have been done for over 200 years.. Where is that bill?
[Sigh...]
Professional Aviation Safety Specialists (PASS) Region II : PASS Legislative Update for July 1, 2011
That page tracked the genesis of the bill at Opencongress.org/bill/all.The Senate passed its version of the FAA reauthorization legislation (S. 223) in February and the House passed its version (H.R. 658) in April. The two versions are now in an informal conference and PASS continues to lobby on numerous issues important to PASS members (see Legislative Update, May 27, 2011). However, House and Senate lawmakers remain at odds over several issues including funding levels, the Essential Air Service program and a House-passed provision that would overturn a National Mediation Board ruling regarding union elections.
Funny thing is the Senate went back into session and passed the House version, which was passed weeks ago, by unanimous consent.
Not so ironically, you have no idea what you are talking about.
I know there's a private airfield within 15 miles of where I live, and only two commercial flights a day by Colgan to and from Boston. The rest of the fleet one can see from the highway belongs to private owners, who keep the airport open because they lobbied for it. Next?
Do you have any idea what the subsidies that the Republicans objected to have to do with owners of private planes? If you need a hint, it is nothing, which is why I pointed out you have no idea what you are talking about.
QPW does not understand this issue.
Somebody please explain it to him.
You've actually surpassed rdean and Truthmatters for partisan dipshittedness.
Congress has temporarily extended FAA's funding 20 times since the law expired in 2007. Congress has stalled on the 21st extension because the House version of the bill included cutbacks to rural airport subsidies. Senate leaders cried foul, saying that stopgap bills are no place for policy debates. Only once since 2007 have lawmakers added policy-related provisions to the FAA extensions. After the Colgan Flight 3407 accident in 2009 in Buffalo, N.Y., the FAA extension that Congress passed the following year included pilot-safety provisions.
Need 'compromise' or FAA won't function, Transportation secretary says -- GovExec.com
Moron.
Sorry, buddy, but that is EXACTLY what happened. Feel better, now that you got to call me a moron, though? Ignorant asshole? There...I sure did.
Now, on to the facts, idiot:
BBC News - FAA shutdown: Congress passes funding bill
The temporary deal contains $16.5m (£10m) of Republican-backed cuts in air service subsidies to rural communities.
The bill allows the FAA to continue operating until September, when Congress returns from summer recess.
"This agreement does not resolve the important differences that still remain," Mr Reid said on Thursday as he announced the accord. "But I believe we should keep Americans working while Congress settles its differences and this agreement will do exactly that."
Republicans had insisted on the $16.5m in cuts to 13 rural communities in return for restoring the FAA to full operation.
The measures only keep the US air safety agency going until mid-September, setting the stage for a fresh political row when lawmakers return from their summer break, say analysts.
Reading comprehension a huge challenge slick?
The funding has been temporary over and over again since 2007. It was in response to your drama that they wanted a temp bill. And yet, with libs in charge all through the years it wasn't a problem.....20 times.
See, that wasn't hard now was it?
Sorry, buddy, but that is EXACTLY what happened. Feel better, now that you got to call me a moron, though? Ignorant asshole? There...I sure did.
Now, on to the facts, idiot:
BBC News - FAA shutdown: Congress passes funding bill
Reading comprehension a huge challenge slick?
The funding has been temporary over and over again since 2007. It was in response to your drama that they wanted a temp bill. And yet, with libs in charge all through the years it wasn't a problem.....20 times.
See, that wasn't hard now was it?
Oh, I see. Yours is strictly an ideological argument. Got it. Sorry, pal, it ain't flying anymore.
[Sigh...]
Professional Aviation Safety Specialists (PASS) Region II : PASS Legislative Update for July 1, 2011
That page tracked the genesis of the bill at Opencongress.org/bill/all.
Funny thing is the Senate went back into session and passed the House version, which was passed weeks ago, by unanimous consent.
It never went into conference BECAUSE after the Senate passed it back to the House for that purpose, the riders were attached. What are you reading that claims otherwise?
I know there's a private airfield within 15 miles of where I live, and only two commercial flights a day by Colgan to and from Boston. The rest of the fleet one can see from the highway belongs to private owners, who keep the airport open because they lobbied for it. Next?
Do you have any idea what the subsidies that the Republicans objected to have to do with owners of private planes? If you need a hint, it is nothing, which is why I pointed out you have no idea what you are talking about.
What? The Republicans object to subsidizing the airport OPERATIONS. If they are closed down, where will the fat cats who donate to the GOP park their Lear jets? Republicans no longer think beyond the ends of their noses, period.
Do you have any idea what the subsidies that the Republicans objected to have to do with owners of private planes? If you need a hint, it is nothing, which is why I pointed out you have no idea what you are talking about.
What? The Republicans object to subsidizing the airport OPERATIONS. If they are closed down, where will the fat cats who donate to the GOP park their Lear jets? Republicans no longer think beyond the ends of their noses, period.
No.
They object to subsidizing regional airlines. That might end up with some regional airports shutdown, but it will not actually affect the small airports like the one you are talking about because they operate under VFR and the towers are manned by volunteers, not the FAA.
False.The Senate was perfectly free to pass its own version of the bill and send it to a conference committee, the same way things have been done for over 200 years.. Where is that bill?
[Sigh...]
Professional Aviation Safety Specialists (PASS) Region II : PASS Legislative Update for July 1, 2011
That page tracked the genesis of the bill at Opencongress.org/bill/all.The Senate passed its version of the FAA reauthorization legislation (S. 223) in February and the House passed its version (H.R. 658) in April. The two versions are now in an informal conference and PASS continues to lobby on numerous issues important to PASS members (see Legislative Update, May 27, 2011). However, House and Senate lawmakers remain at odds over several issues including funding levels, the Essential Air Service program and a House-passed provision that would overturn a National Mediation Board ruling regarding union elections.
Funny thing is the Senate went back into session and passed the House version, which was passed weeks ago, by unanimous consent.
