This current Congress has just shredded the Constitutional process

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    What in the hell is going on? A supper Congress? We need to clkean the government out today.

    The committee of six Republicans and six Democrats, which will do most of its work behind closed doors, will have until Nov. 23 to develop a plan to reduce the budget deficit that must pass through both Houses of Congress before Christmas.

    Once they come up with a plan that seven members agree to, it will go to both chambers and can pass with just a simple majority. No filibustering, and no amending allowed.

    If, however, they fail to find agreement, there's a back-up plan: Under the new law, Congress has set a series of "triggers," which will automatically reduce spending levels across the board if the group cannot get the job done. If the negotiations fall through, billions in cuts to both discretionary spending and the defense budget will automatically kick in, giving neither party a say about the details.
    Meet the new Super Congress | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

    Nothiung but a bunch of statist.
     
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    A tad unnerving, "...behind closed doors..., no amending, no filibustering...."

    So the not super congresspeople have zero accountability to those who elected them?
     
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    it sounds more like a four martini lunch congress.
     
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    Maybe the constitutionality of this entire deal needs to be challenged in federal court.
     
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    There is no other way to keep the US from becoming Greece. If they get the budget balanced, and save SS & Medicare, or at least take giant steps toward that goal, its Constitutional, "by unanimous consent".

    What normally happens is they un-do the cuts and keep the country headed for bankruptcy. We'll see what happens this time.
     
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    This isn't about the budget it's about the new super congress of 12
     
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    It’s perfectly Constitutional.

    Article I Section 5 of the US Constitution authorizes both houses of Congress to enact its own rules:

    Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.

    As long as each member is allowed his vote, any rules configuration is Constitutional – there’s noting requiring amendments or a filibuster.
    On what grounds?

    Remember that just because Congress enacts a bad law, doesn’t mean it’s un-Constitutional.

    But this is a bad idea nonetheless, as deciding who may serve on the committee is problematic, to say the least.
     
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    No it isn't
    Once they come up with a plan that seven members agree to, it will go to both chambers and can pass with just a simple majority. No filibustering, and no amending allowed.
     
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    As soon as the next congress starts its becomes non binding.
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91QEIenOeY0&feature=channel_video_title]‪Is Super Congress Constitutional?‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
     

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