Good guy with gun stops bad guy with gun!

[basquebromance]

thank God for the NRA.

BREAKING: Armed Citizen Kills Mass Shooter At Oklahoma Restaurant

"Lake Hefner shooting update: A man walked into the Louie’s restaurant and opened fire with a gun. Two people were shot. One person has been taken to a hospital with serious injuries. A bystander with a pistol confronted the shooter outside the restaurant and fatally shot him"

 

[Brain357]

Maybe if you post this one a few more times it will seem like this sort of thing happens millions of times each year? A shooting happened and the shooter was shot when he was leaving..

 

[basquebromance]

Maybe if you post this one a few more times it will seem like this sort of thing happens millions of times each year? A shooting happened and the shooter was shot when he was leaving..

let me say it again to you: THANK GOD FOR THE NRA.

 

[toobfreak]

Armed citizen kills shooter at Oklahoma City restaurant

Quick! CNN,MSNBC,ABC,NBC bury this! Can't have people thinking good guys stop bad guys with guns! Now if this had been up to our resident communists there would be a restaurant FULL of dead bodies!

Wha-- -- -- wait! I just read here the other day that people don't go around carrying guns defending others! Here's a crazy thought, maybe all these school shootings keep happening not because of guns, but because of not enough of them? Who starts a gun fight in a police barrack?

 

[toobfreak]

Drama queen OP --- There was NO mass shooting.

Ah, HELLO? THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT Luddite. He was stopped and killed by a CCW before he had the chance.

 

[toobfreak]

Maybe if you post this one a few more times it will seem like this sort of thing happens millions of times each year? A shooting happened and the shooter was shot when he was leaving..

Its a pretty common occurrence, just not very good news to sell papers. If you want a more complete list subscribe to the NRA, they publish lists of every positive life-saving, crime-stopping gun event they can find. Guns save 10X more lives than they're accused of taking.

 

[toobfreak]

We keep hearing about these events. Mass shooter goes in someplace full of people, and starts firing randomly. Almost immediately (before he can do much damage), he is shot dead by a good guy with a gun.

It happened this evening at a restaurant in Oklahoma City, with the gunman wearing shooting ear covers. He came in and just starting randomly shooting at people. 2 people (a woman and a girl) were hit and taken to a hospital. Gunman hasn't been identified yet (4 hours after the attack).

100 witnesses are being interviewed by police - just to show how bad this could have been if the gunman had not been stopped quickly as he was. This attack brings back memories of the 2002 LAX shooting where an Egyptian terrorist, Ahmed Mohammed Hadayet, stormed into the crowded airport, firing a pistol, killing 2 people and wounding 3 others, only to be shot dead right on the spot, by a good guy with a gun, preventing what surely would have been a bloodbath massacre.

It's also similar to the 2015 attack on a school in Garland, TX when 2 Muslim terrorists drove up and started shooting, but were stopped and shot dead by by police guards at the school.

Civilian shoots, kills suspect who opened fire at restaurant

Point being that everywhere you find gun killings in schools, theaters or wherever, it always turns out to be a gun-free zone where the killer knew he would have no opposition!

 

[OnePercenter]

I'm glad he didn't have an AR-15.

Funny thing is in most cases, in close quarters someone with a handgun will get the “drop” on someone with a rifle...

In this case it wasn't close quarters.

 

[OnePercenter]

Maybe if you post this one a few more times it will seem like this sort of thing happens millions of times each year? A shooting happened and the shooter was shot when he was leaving..

let me say it again to you: THANK GOD FOR THE NRA.

By what; Trying to reduce press coverage of school shootings, or trying to rewrite the second amendment?

 

[basquebromance]

"Here are some news items that might help us figure out how to reduce the number of school shooting victims.

-- May 3, 2017, Arlington, Texas: James Jones went to the Zona Caliente sports bar and began yelling incoherently. When the manager, Cesar Perez, went to talk to him and calm him down, Jones pulled out a gun and shot Perez dead, then started shooting wildly at patrons. Luckily, a concealed carry holder happened to be having dinner at Zona Caliente with his wife that night. He shot Jones dead before anyone else was hurt.

-- Aug. 7, 2016, Linndale, Ohio: Two men getting into their car in a Dollar Store parking lot were held up by a masked armed robber. As the gunman, Varshaun Stephen Dukes, was rifling through one of the men's pockets, the other pulled out his concealed handgun and told him to stop. The robber fired at the man but missed. The concealed carry permit holder shot back, putting a .45 bullet in the robber's brain. (Naturally, he survived.) All of this was captured on the Dollar Store's surveillance camera, so no charges were brought against the armed citizen.

-- June 26, 2016, Lyman, South Carolina: Jody Ray Thompson opened fire in the crowded Playoffz nightclub, injuring three. But before he could kill anyone, he was shot in the leg by a club patron with a concealed carry license. Police arrested Thompson without further incident and no one died.

-- May 31, 2015, Conyers, Georgia: After arguing with a liquor store clerk, Jeffrey Scott Pitts returned with a gun and began shooting at everyone in the store, killing two. Todd Scott, who was there to buy a six-pack, returned fire. The crazed gunman fled, went home and shot his parents. "He was very surprised that he was not the only one in the store with a gun," Scott said. Apart from the two people killed in Pitts' opening barrage, no one died. Scott saved the lives of everyone else in that store.

-- July 24, 2014, Darby, Pennsylvania: Felon and psychiatric patient Richard Plotts pulled out a gun at Mercy Fitzgerald Hospital, murdered his caseworker and wounded his psychiatrist, Dr. Lee Silverman. He would have kept shooting -- Plotts had 39 more bullets -- but the doctor pulled out his own gun and fired back, in violation of the hospital's no-guns rule. No one else died.

-- Jan. 11, 2014, Portland, Oregon: After being turned away from a strip club in Portland, repeat felon Thomas Elliott Hjelmeland came back, wearing a clown mask, guns blazing. He hit a waitress, a security guard and a patron before a bouncer, concealed carry permit holder Jonathan Baer, returned fire and ended the attack. No one died.

-- Dec. 16, 2012, San Antonio, Texas: Jesus Manuel Garcia began shooting at the Santikos Mayan Palace movie theater from a nearby restaurant and continued shooting as he walked toward the theater. An armed off-duty cop shot Garcia four times, stopping the attack. No one died.

-- March 25, 2018, Boiling Springs, South Carolina: Jesse Gates kicked in a side door of the Southside Freewill Baptist Church during services, raised his gun to shoot -- but was grabbed and held at gunpoint by the reverend's grandson, a concealed carry permit holder. No one was hurt. Spartanburg County Sheriff Chuck Wright said, "I like the fact that a concealed weapons permit holder was prepared to protect the worshipers."

It's seems like it's been awhile since we've heard of a crazed gunman being quickly disarmed at a school. Maybe because we've been trying to stop mass shootings with gun-free school zones.

Here are some older school shooting cases that had comparatively happy endings.

-- In 2001, 15-year-old Charles Williams tried to shoot up his high school in Santee, California, but luckily, an off-duty cop happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day. He ended Williams' rampage with his own gun, holding him until more police arrived. Two fatalities.

-- In 1998, a 14-year-old student began shooting up a school dance being held at a restaurant in Edinboro, Pennsylvania. The restaurant owner pulled out a shotgun, keeping the death toll to one.

-- In 1997, a student shot several people at his high school in Pearl, Mississippi, killing two, and was headed to the junior high, until assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieved a .45 pistol from his car and pointed it at the gunman's head. Another massacre averted.

-- In 1993, student Mark Duong pulled out a gun during his disciplinary hearing at Weber State University in Ogden, Utah, wounding three people, including the police officer, who, luckily, had been asked to attend the hearing. The officer immediately shot the psychotic student dead, saving the lives of everyone in the room.

-- NYT story: "He remembers visiting a friend of his father’s, a bishop, who had run afoul of some local whites, and praying together in the man’s yard that he might be kept safe. As night fell, the friend went inside and placed shotguns by the windows. “What’s that for?” Barber asked. His father answered, “That’s an extra precaution in case the prayers don’t work.”"

 

[bgrouse]

Wouldn't it be better to not have the "mass shooter" in the first place like they do in most of the civilized world though?

Of course it would. But, as we are seeing with the skyrocketing gun crime rate in London, it ain't the gun. It's the asshole using it illegally. If it were only about the gun then London wouldn't be seeing the gun crime rate shooting through the roof.

When some morons start comparing the US to the UK and Australia to make a case.....oh well.

The difference in our homicide (or violent crime, don't remember which I used when I did the statistics comparison) rates is roughly in line with the difference in our black minority rates, who by the way kill the most people despite being a small part of our population.

 

[Issa]

Wouldn't it be better to not have the "mass shooter" in the first place like they do in most of the civilized world though?

Of course it would. But, as we are seeing with the skyrocketing gun crime rate in London, it ain't the gun. It's the asshole using it illegally. If it were only about the gun then London wouldn't be seeing the gun crime rate shooting through the roof.

When some morons start comparing the US to the UK and Australia to make a case.....oh well.

The difference in our homicide (or violent crime, don't remember which I used when I did the statistics comparison) rates is roughly in line with the difference in our black minority rates, who by the way kill the most people despite being a small part of our population.

Since I moved to this great nation most mass shootings I've seen the perpetrators were white. Dont blame it only on blacks...its an American problem.

 

[bgrouse]

Wouldn't it be better to not have the "mass shooter" in the first place like they do in most of the civilized world though?

Of course it would. But, as we are seeing with the skyrocketing gun crime rate in London, it ain't the gun. It's the asshole using it illegally. If it were only about the gun then London wouldn't be seeing the gun crime rate shooting through the roof.

When some morons start comparing the US to the UK and Australia to make a case.....oh well.

The difference in our homicide (or violent crime, don't remember which I used when I did the statistics comparison) rates is roughly in line with the difference in our black minority rates, who by the way kill the most people despite being a small part of our population.

Since I moved to this great nation most mass shootings I've seen the perpetrators were white. Dont blame it only on blacks...its an American problem.

Since you moved to this great nation, you've obviously learned nothing about statistics or the fact that mass public shootings are a tiny fraction of the violent crime pie and that CNN doesn't choose their top stories in a way that is statistically representative of the whole.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Armed citizen kills shooter at Oklahoma City restaurant

Quick! CNN,MSNBC,ABC,NBC bury this! Can't have people thinking good guys stop bad guys with guns! Now if this had been up to our resident communists there would be a restaurant FULL of dead bodies!

It's like, you have a choice.

On the one hand, no guns, and a few murders.

On the other hand you have guns, lots more people with guns, lots more attacks with guns, and 5 times more murders.

Which is better?

 

[westwall]

Armed citizen kills shooter at Oklahoma City restaurant

Quick! CNN,MSNBC,ABC,NBC bury this! Can't have people thinking good guys stop bad guys with guns! Now if this had been up to our resident communists there would be a restaurant FULL of dead bodies!

It's like, you have a choice.

On the one hand, no guns, and a few murders.

On the other hand you have guns, lots more people with guns, lots more attacks with guns, and 5 times more murders.

Which is better?

Neither is better because your scenarios are false.

 

[bgrouse]

Armed citizen kills shooter at Oklahoma City restaurant

Quick! CNN,MSNBC,ABC,NBC bury this! Can't have people thinking good guys stop bad guys with guns! Now if this had been up to our resident communists there would be a restaurant FULL of dead bodies!

It's like, you have a choice.

On the one hand, no guns, and a few murders.

On the other hand you have guns, lots more people with guns, lots more attacks with guns, and 5 times more murders.

Which is better?

It would be better if you incorporated the real cause of most of America's disproportionate violence (blacks and latinos) into your stupid theory.

 

[Issa]

Wouldn't it be better to not have the "mass shooter" in the first place like they do in most of the civilized world though?

Of course it would. But, as we are seeing with the skyrocketing gun crime rate in London, it ain't the gun. It's the asshole using it illegally. If it were only about the gun then London wouldn't be seeing the gun crime rate shooting through the roof.

When some morons start comparing the US to the UK and Australia to make a case.....oh well.

The difference in our homicide (or violent crime, don't remember which I used when I did the statistics comparison) rates is roughly in line with the difference in our black minority rates, who by the way kill the most people despite being a small part of our population.

Since I moved to this great nation most mass shootings I've seen the perpetrators were white. Dont blame it only on blacks...its an American problem.

Since you moved to this great nation, you've obviously learned nothing about statistics or the fact that mass public shootings are a tiny fraction of the violent crime pie and that CNN doesn't choose their top stories in a way that is statistically representative of the whole.

You can approach it and over analyze as you wish. But the fact of 5he matter is that the US has a gun problem that leads to thousands of deaths including children unlike most countries.

 

[Rustic]

Armed citizen kills shooter at Oklahoma City restaurant

Quick! CNN,MSNBC,ABC,NBC bury this! Can't have people thinking good guys stop bad guys with guns! Now if this had been up to our resident communists there would be a restaurant FULL of dead bodies!

It's like, you have a choice.

On the one hand, no guns, and a few murders.

On the other hand you have guns, lots more people with guns, lots more attacks with guns, and 5 times more murders.

Which is better?

Progressive controlled areas is were the most violent crime is, the strictest gun laws, the least legally owned firearms.
In Rural America the opposite is true...

 

[Rustic]

Of course it would. But, as we are seeing with the skyrocketing gun crime rate in London, it ain't the gun. It's the asshole using it illegally. If it were only about the gun then London wouldn't be seeing the gun crime rate shooting through the roof.

When some morons start comparing the US to the UK and Australia to make a case.....oh well.

The difference in our homicide (or violent crime, don't remember which I used when I did the statistics comparison) rates is roughly in line with the difference in our black minority rates, who by the way kill the most people despite being a small part of our population.

Since I moved to this great nation most mass shootings I've seen the perpetrators were white. Dont blame it only on blacks...its an American problem.

Since you moved to this great nation, you've obviously learned nothing about statistics or the fact that mass public shootings are a tiny fraction of the violent crime pie and that CNN doesn't choose their top stories in a way that is statistically representative of the whole.

You can approach it and over analyze as you wish. But the fact of 5he matter is that the US has a gun problem that leads to thousands of deaths including children unlike most countries.

Blame progressives, urban America is where most violent crime originates...

 

[emilynghiem]

Armed citizen kills shooter at Oklahoma City restaurant

Quick! CNN,MSNBC,ABC,NBC bury this! Can't have people thinking good guys stop bad guys with guns! Now if this had been up to our resident communists there would be a restaurant FULL of dead bodies!

Dear Odium
what we can't ever prove are the number of cases DETERRED ALTOGETHER
where gun violence was not even attempted due to armed security and greater enforcement on the side of the law.

How do you possible expect to measure the deterrent effect of guns and armed citizens?
This will never show up in the statistics.
Thus the full effect of guns for deterring crimes, how can it be counted?