Glow ball warming

[xotoxi]

They are definitely getting warmer.

 

[waltky]

Global warming causing ice melt run-off which gonna cool Europe down...

Study: More Arctic fresh water could cool Europe
22 Jan.`12 — A huge pool of fresh water in the Arctic Ocean is expanding and could lower the temperature of Europe by causing an ocean current to slow down, British scientists said Sunday.

Using satellites to measure sea surface height from 1995 to 2010, scientists from University College London and Britain's National Oceanography Center found that the western Arctic's sea surface has risen by about 15 centimeters since 2002. The volume of fresh water has increased by about 10 percent of all the fresh water in the Arctic Ocean. The fresh water comes from melting ice and river run-off. The rise could be due to strong Arctic winds increasing an ocean current called the Beaufort Gyre, making the sea surface bulge upwards.

The Beaufort Gyre is one of the least understood bodies of water on the planet. It is a slowly swirling body of ice and water north of Alaska, about 10 times bigger than Lake Michigan in the United States. Some scientists believe the natural rhythms of the gyre could be affected by global warming, which could have serious implications for the ocean's circulation and rising sea levels. Climate models have suggested that wind blowing on the surface of the sea has formed a raised dome in the middle of the Beaufort Gyre, but there have been few in-depth studies to confirm this. If the wind changes direction, which happened between the mid-1980s to mid-1990s, the pool of fresh water could spill out into the rest of the Arctic Ocean and even into the north Atlantic Ocean, the study said.

This could cool Europe by slowing down an ocean current coming from the Gulf Stream, which keeps Europe relatively mild compared with countries at similar latitudes. "Our findings suggest that a reversal of the wind could result in the release of this fresh water to the rest of the Arctic Ocean and even beyond," said Katharine Giles at UCL's Center for Polar Observation and Modelling and lead author of the study, published in the journal Nature Geoscience. The team plans to investigate further the relationship between sea-ice cover and wind changes.

Study: More Arctic fresh water could cool Europe - World news - World environment - msnbc.com

 

[whitehall]

Notice the geological experts don't talk about "the" Ice Age? They talk about the "last" Ice Age. Ignorant lefties seem to think in terms of the last presidential election but the fact of the matter is that we are still recovering in geological terms from the last Ice Age. You can call it a mini-ice age or a real ice age but the fact is that it wasn't long ago in real history that humans were struggling with the Sun's natural evolution of cold weather. Thank God people and enjoy the good fortune of living in the lull between the Sun's burps and quit bitching about life in the greatest Country in the world.

 

[Liability]

All things can be explained by glo-bull woahming.

If it gets hotter, it's global warming.

If we dive into an ice age, it's a "paradoxical effect" of glo-bull warming.

To the glob-bull woahming faithful, there is no possible way to disprove their devout belief.

That's right. It is not even possibly falsifiable.

But the rubes, like rderp, etc., still consider it "science."

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

lol in the 1970's they were screaming about global cooling.
Funny stuff.

No they weren't.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Notice the geological experts don't talk about "the" Ice Age? They talk about the "last" Ice Age. Ignorant lefties seem to think in terms of the last presidential election but the fact of the matter is that we are still recovering in geological terms from the last Ice Age. You can call it a mini-ice age or a real ice age but the fact is that it wasn't long ago in real history that humans were struggling with the Sun's natural evolution of cold weather. Thank God people and enjoy the good fortune of living in the lull between the Sun's burps and quit bitching about life in the greatest Country in the world.

Stupit liberals. How could they not know that? You want proof AGW is wrong - ice ages, duh!!! hockey sticks gore suv!

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

All things can be explained by glo-bull woahming.

If it gets hotter, it's global warming.

If we dive into an ice age, it's a "paradoxical effect" of glo-bull warming.

To the glob-bull woahming faithful, there is no possible way to disprove their devout belief.

That's right. It is not even possibly falsifiable.

But the rubes, like rderp, etc., still consider it "science."

If it rains next tuesday - global warming, that's just what those stupit libruls will say.

 

[daveman]

A complete list of things caused by global warming

It's a miracle we're not all dead already.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

A complete list of things caused by global warming

It's a miracle we're not all dead already.

Hardly any of those links go to actual peer reviewed journal articles. Most link to articles written by journalists who have no formal scientific training.

So clearly we need to assign a lot of weight to this. Fucking journalists know much more about science than scientists, and they are hardly ever alarmist in anything they talk about, so something is up here,

 

[daveman]

A complete list of things caused by global warming

It's a miracle we're not all dead already.

Hardly any of those links go to actual peer reviewed journal articles. Most link to articles written by journalists who have no formal scientific training.

So clearly we need to assign a lot of weight to this. Fucking journalists know much more about science than scientists, and they are hardly ever alarmist in anything they talk about, so something is up here,

So who's giving the journalists their information?

If you bozos had science on your side, you wouldn't have to rely on emotionalism and fear-mongering.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

A complete list of things caused by global warming

It's a miracle we're not all dead already.

Hardly any of those links go to actual peer reviewed journal articles. Most link to articles written by journalists who have no formal scientific training.

So clearly we need to assign a lot of weight to this. Fucking journalists know much more about science than scientists, and they are hardly ever alarmist in anything they talk about, so something is up here,

So who's giving the journalists their information?

Must be the evil scientists.

Why would anyone want to link directly to the source, anyway? Its clearly much more accurate to direct people to articles written by journalists that are about articles written by scientists, than to articles writteh by scientists, that way the jouranlists get to draw conclusions based on the scientific work, and we can take those as if they came from the scientists themselves. So much more accurate. Scientitic journal articles can often be misleading about their own content, we need a journalist to make it make sense.

Must be true if a journalist said it.

 

[daveman]

Hardly any of those links go to actual peer reviewed journal articles. Most link to articles written by journalists who have no formal scientific training.

So clearly we need to assign a lot of weight to this. Fucking journalists know much more about science than scientists, and they are hardly ever alarmist in anything they talk about, so something is up here,

So who's giving the journalists their information?

Must be the evil scientists.

Why would anyone want to link directly to the source, anyway? Its clearly much more accurate to direct people to articles written by journalists that are about articles written by scientists, than to articles writteh by scientists, that way the jouranlists get to draw conclusions based on the scientific work, and we can take those as if they came from the scientists themselves. So much more accurate. Scientitic journal articles can often be misleading about their own content, we need a journalist to make it make sense.

Must be true if a journalist said it.

NASA warming scientist: 'This is the last chance' - USATODAY.com

James Hansen told Congress on Monday that the world has long passed the "dangerous level" for greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and needs to get back to 1988 levels. He said Earth's atmosphere can only stay this loaded with man-made carbon dioxide for a couple more decades without changes such as mass extinction, ecosystem collapse and dramatic sea level rises.​

By 2050 Warming to Doom Million Species, Study Says

By 2050, rising temperatures exacerbated by human-induced belches of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases could send more than a million of Earth's land-dwelling plants and animals down the road to extinction, according to a recent study.

"Climate change now represents at least as great a threat to the number of species surviving on Earth as habitat-destruction and modification," said Chris Thomas, a conservation biologist at the University of Leeds in the United Kingdom.​

Humans will be extinct in 100 years says eminent scientist

Fenner said that climate change is only at its beginning, but is likely to be the cause of our extinction. “We’ll undergo the same fate as the people on Easter Island,” he said. More people means fewer resources, and Fenner predicts “there will be a lot more wars over food.”​

Oh, look. Scientists directly quoted making statements predicting catastrophic effects of climate change.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

So who's giving the journalists their information?

Must be the evil scientists.

Why would anyone want to link directly to the source, anyway? Its clearly much more accurate to direct people to articles written by journalists that are about articles written by scientists, than to articles writteh by scientists, that way the jouranlists get to draw conclusions based on the scientific work, and we can take those as if they came from the scientists themselves. So much more accurate. Scientitic journal articles can often be misleading about their own content, we need a journalist to make it make sense.

Must be true if a journalist said it.

NASA warming scientist: 'This is the last chance' - USATODAY.com

James Hansen told Congress on Monday that the world has long passed the "dangerous level" for greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and needs to get back to 1988 levels. He said Earth's atmosphere can only stay this loaded with man-made carbon dioxide for a couple more decades without changes such as mass extinction, ecosystem collapse and dramatic sea level rises.​

By 2050 Warming to Doom Million Species, Study Says

By 2050, rising temperatures exacerbated by human-induced belches of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases could send more than a million of Earth's land-dwelling plants and animals down the road to extinction, according to a recent study.

"Climate change now represents at least as great a threat to the number of species surviving on Earth as habitat-destruction and modification," said Chris Thomas, a conservation biologist at the University of Leeds in the United Kingdom.​

Humans will be extinct in 100 years says eminent scientist

Fenner said that climate change is only at its beginning, but is likely to be the cause of our extinction. “We’ll undergo the same fate as the people on Easter Island,” he said. More people means fewer resources, and Fenner predicts “there will be a lot more wars over food.”​

Oh, look. Scientists directly quoted making statements predicting catastrophic effects of climate change.

All that really matters is their interviews with journalists. The stuff they publish is irrelevant, it undergoes peer review, what good is it?

If those scientists say what those links say they say, then clearly all the links linked to in the stuff that is caused by global warming page you sent me contain lnks to articles about articles that each claim conclusively that <link name> is caused by global warming.

Its so obvious why didn't I see it before?

 

[daveman]

Must be the evil scientists.

Why would anyone want to link directly to the source, anyway? Its clearly much more accurate to direct people to articles written by journalists that are about articles written by scientists, than to articles writteh by scientists, that way the jouranlists get to draw conclusions based on the scientific work, and we can take those as if they came from the scientists themselves. So much more accurate. Scientitic journal articles can often be misleading about their own content, we need a journalist to make it make sense.

Must be true if a journalist said it.

NASA warming scientist: 'This is the last chance' - USATODAY.com

James Hansen told Congress on Monday that the world has long passed the "dangerous level" for greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and needs to get back to 1988 levels. He said Earth's atmosphere can only stay this loaded with man-made carbon dioxide for a couple more decades without changes such as mass extinction, ecosystem collapse and dramatic sea level rises.​

By 2050 Warming to Doom Million Species, Study Says

By 2050, rising temperatures exacerbated by human-induced belches of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases could send more than a million of Earth's land-dwelling plants and animals down the road to extinction, according to a recent study.

"Climate change now represents at least as great a threat to the number of species surviving on Earth as habitat-destruction and modification," said Chris Thomas, a conservation biologist at the University of Leeds in the United Kingdom.​

Humans will be extinct in 100 years says eminent scientist

Fenner said that climate change is only at its beginning, but is likely to be the cause of our extinction. “We’ll undergo the same fate as the people on Easter Island,” he said. More people means fewer resources, and Fenner predicts “there will be a lot more wars over food.”​

Oh, look. Scientists directly quoted making statements predicting catastrophic effects of climate change.

All that really matters is their interviews with journalists. The stuff they publish is irrelevant, it undergoes peer review, what good is it?

If those scientists say what those links say they say, then clearly all the links linked to in the stuff that is caused by global warming page you sent me contain lnks to articles about articles that each claim conclusively that <link name> is caused by global warming.

Its so obvious why didn't I see it before?

Are you calling all those scientists in the articles liars?

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

NASA warming scientist: 'This is the last chance' - USATODAY.com

James Hansen told Congress on Monday that the world has long passed the "dangerous level" for greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and needs to get back to 1988 levels. He said Earth's atmosphere can only stay this loaded with man-made carbon dioxide for a couple more decades without changes such as mass extinction, ecosystem collapse and dramatic sea level rises.​

By 2050 Warming to Doom Million Species, Study Says

By 2050, rising temperatures exacerbated by human-induced belches of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases could send more than a million of Earth's land-dwelling plants and animals down the road to extinction, according to a recent study.

"Climate change now represents at least as great a threat to the number of species surviving on Earth as habitat-destruction and modification," said Chris Thomas, a conservation biologist at the University of Leeds in the United Kingdom.​

Humans will be extinct in 100 years says eminent scientist

Fenner said that climate change is only at its beginning, but is likely to be the cause of our extinction. “We’ll undergo the same fate as the people on Easter Island,” he said. More people means fewer resources, and Fenner predicts “there will be a lot more wars over food.”​

Oh, look. Scientists directly quoted making statements predicting catastrophic effects of climate change.

All that really matters is their interviews with journalists. The stuff they publish is irrelevant, it undergoes peer review, what good is it?

If those scientists say what those links say they say, then clearly all the links linked to in the stuff that is caused by global warming page you sent me contain lnks to articles about articles that each claim conclusively that <link name> is caused by global warming.

Its so obvious why didn't I see it before?

Are you calling all those scientists in the articles liars?

Of course they are. They are part of the conspiracy.

I just don't understand why they bother to publish scientific papers. It takes such a long time and its a pain in the fucking ass. Why bother when they can just call up the local paper, give them a few soundbits, and that's all that's needed?

I personally don't think scientists should ever speak directly about their work. The best medium to get their ideas out is a list of links to articles written by journalists about things they have said.

 

[daveman]

All that really matters is their interviews with journalists. The stuff they publish is irrelevant, it undergoes peer review, what good is it?

If those scientists say what those links say they say, then clearly all the links linked to in the stuff that is caused by global warming page you sent me contain lnks to articles about articles that each claim conclusively that <link name> is caused by global warming.

Its so obvious why didn't I see it before?

Are you calling all those scientists in the articles liars?

Of course they are. They are part of the conspiracy.

I just don't understand why they bother to publish scientific papers. It takes such a long time and its a pain in the fucking ass. Why bother when they can just call up the local paper, give them a few soundbits, and that's all that's needed?

I personally don't think scientists should ever speak directly about their work. The best medium to get their ideas out is a list of links to articles written by journalists about things they have said.

Dumbass.

 

[Grandma]

For what it's worth thunderstorms are at present moving into Ohio. At this time of year the state is normally covered with snow and high temperatures are in the teens. For what it's worth.

 

[waltky]

Grandma wrote: For what it's worth.

Thought ya'd never ask...

For What It's Worth
by Buffalo Springfield

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind

I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side

It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Buffalo Springfield Lyrics, For What It's Worth Lyrics >>

 

[Grandma]

^^^
This.

Everyone on the board should read that post.

 

[Liability]

All things can be explained by glo-bull woahming.

If it gets hotter, it's global warming.

If we dive into an ice age, it's a "paradoxical effect" of glo-bull warming.

To the glob-bull woahming faithful, there is no possible way to disprove their devout belief.

That's right. It is not even possibly falsifiable.

But the rubes, like rderp, etc., still consider it "science."

If it rains next tuesday - global warming, that's just what those stupit libruls will say.

So you think that "weather" and "climate" are synonymous?

You ARE a lib, dufus.