Global Warming Deniers Become More Desperate By the Day

[westwall]

Once again the vacuum headed deniers have managed to make five posts without even once saying anything relevant to the OP or the thread of discussion. All of their nonsense and drivel just confirms some of the points made in the OP, particularly about desperation.

What are looking for when you post AGW religious propaganda, instead of real science?

You want your fellow AGW cult members to pat you on the back?

If you want a discussion about science all you will need to do is post some real science.

More of the desperate delusions of the denier cultists.....right after I just posted a scientific report from NOAA, combining the research of "more than 300 scientists from 160 research groups in 48 countries", confirming the reality of AGW....LOLOL....deniers are sooooooo delusional...

All that post is is a confirmation that they have been altering records going back 50 years. They got caught. No one believes them anymore except for you ignorant anti science religious fanatic dupes.

 

[westwall]

More delusional twaddle. Actual science from the world scientific community completely supports the reality of AGW.

NOAA: Past Decade Warmest on Record According to Scientists in 48 Countries
Earth has been growing warmer for more than fifty years
NOAA
State of the Climate
The 2009 State of the Climate report released today draws on data for 10 key climate indicators that all point to the same finding: the scientific evidence that our world is warming is unmistakable. More than 300 scientists from 160 research groups in 48 countries contributed to the report, which confirms that the past decade was the warmest on record and that the Earth has been growing warmer over the last 50 years. Based on comprehensive data from multiple sources, the report defines 10 measurable planet-wide features used to gauge global temperature changes. The relative movement of each of these indicators proves consistent with a warming world. Seven indicators are rising: air temperature over land, sea-surface temperature, air temperature over oceans, sea level, ocean heat, humidity and tropospheric temperature in the “active-weather” layer of the atmosphere closest to the Earth’s surface. Three indicators are declining: Arctic sea ice, glaciers and spring snow cover in the Northern hemisphere. “For the first time, and in a single compelling comparison, the analysis brings together multiple observational records from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the ocean,” said Jane Lubchenco, Ph.D., under secretary of commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA administrator. “The records come from many institutions worldwide. They use data collected from diverse sources, including satellites, weather balloons, weather stations, ships, buoys and field surveys. These independently produced lines of evidence all point to the same conclusion: our planet is warming,”

The report emphasizes that human society has developed for thousands of years under one climatic state, and now a new set of climatic conditions are taking shape. These conditions are consistently warmer, and some areas are likely to see more extreme events like severe drought, torrential rain and violent storms. “Despite the variability caused by short-term changes, the analysis conducted for this report illustrates why we are so confident the world is warming,” said Peter Stott, Ph.D., contributor to the report and head of Climate Monitoring and Attribution of the United Kingdom Met Office Hadley Centre. “When we look at air temperature and other indicators of climate, we see highs and lows in the data from year to year because of natural variability. Understanding climate change requires looking at the longer-term record. When we follow decade-to-decade trends using multiple data sets and independent analyses from around the world, we see clear and unmistakable signs of a warming world.” While year-to-year changes in temperature often reflect natural climatic variations such as El Niño/La Niña events, changes in average temperature from decade-to-decade reveal long-term trends such as global warming. Each of the last three decades has been much warmer than the decade before. At the time, the 1980s was the hottest decade on record. In the 1990s, every year was warmer than the average of the previous decade. The 2000s were warmer still. “The temperature increase of one degree Fahrenheit over the past 50 years may seem small, but it has already altered our planet,” said Deke Arndt, co-editor of the report and chief of the Climate Monitoring Branch of NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center. “Glaciers and sea ice are melting, heavy rainfall is intensifying and heat waves are more common. And, as the new report tells us, there is now evidence that over 90 percent of warming over the past 50 years has gone into our ocean.”

Golly... you'd think with ALL of that melting Ice that SOME of it would cause sea-levels to rise somewhere. Yet NO WHERE ON EARTH are seas rising.

Even more desperately delusional denier cult bullshit from another ignorant retard who thinks that conditions in his backyard are representative of the entire planet and that sea levels are rising at the same rate everywhere. Here's the facts that his rightwingnut ideology demand that he deny.

Sea level is rising at an increasing rate
NOAA - National Ocean Service
There is strong evidence that global sea level is now rising at an increased rate and will continue to rise during this century. While studies show that sea levels changed little from AD 0 until 1900, sea levels began to climb in the 20th century. The two major causes of global sea-level rise are thermal expansion caused by the warming of the oceans (since water expands as it warms) and the loss of land-based ice (such as glaciers and polar ice caps) due to increased melting. Records and research show that sea level has been steadily rising at a rate of 0.04 to 0.1 inches per year since 1900. This rate may be increasing. Since 1992, new methods of satellite altimetry (the measurement of elevation or altitude) indicate a rate of rise of 0.12 inches per year. This is a significantly larger rate than the sea-level rise averaged over the last several thousand years.

And the Maldives (you know that country that is supposed to be under water in a few years....well...according to one of your predictions they'll be under water in 4 years... you remember them?

Well they are soooo worried about going under water that they were able to find several suckers to pony up several hundred million dollars to build FOUR new international airports. Imagine how pissed off those guys are going to be when their airports are under water.......

Or maybe they know something you don't? Like it's all horse shit.

 

[saveliberty]

One of my customers is going ahead with a $2,250 dredging of the channel in front of her house. I tried to warn her it wasn't needed with global warming and all.

 

[RollingThunder]

More delusional twaddle. Actual science from the world scientific community completely supports the reality of AGW.

NOAA: Past Decade Warmest on Record According to Scientists in 48 Countries
Earth has been growing warmer for more than fifty years
NOAA
State of the Climate
The 2009 State of the Climate report released today draws on data for 10 key climate indicators that all point to the same finding: the scientific evidence that our world is warming is unmistakable. More than 300 scientists from 160 research groups in 48 countries contributed to the report, which confirms that the past decade was the warmest on record and that the Earth has been growing warmer over the last 50 years. Based on comprehensive data from multiple sources, the report defines 10 measurable planet-wide features used to gauge global temperature changes. The relative movement of each of these indicators proves consistent with a warming world. Seven indicators are rising: air temperature over land, sea-surface temperature, air temperature over oceans, sea level, ocean heat, humidity and tropospheric temperature in the “active-weather” layer of the atmosphere closest to the Earth’s surface. Three indicators are declining: Arctic sea ice, glaciers and spring snow cover in the Northern hemisphere. “For the first time, and in a single compelling comparison, the analysis brings together multiple observational records from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the ocean,” said Jane Lubchenco, Ph.D., under secretary of commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA administrator. “The records come from many institutions worldwide. They use data collected from diverse sources, including satellites, weather balloons, weather stations, ships, buoys and field surveys. These independently produced lines of evidence all point to the same conclusion: our planet is warming,”

The report emphasizes that human society has developed for thousands of years under one climatic state, and now a new set of climatic conditions are taking shape. These conditions are consistently warmer, and some areas are likely to see more extreme events like severe drought, torrential rain and violent storms. “Despite the variability caused by short-term changes, the analysis conducted for this report illustrates why we are so confident the world is warming,” said Peter Stott, Ph.D., contributor to the report and head of Climate Monitoring and Attribution of the United Kingdom Met Office Hadley Centre. “When we look at air temperature and other indicators of climate, we see highs and lows in the data from year to year because of natural variability. Understanding climate change requires looking at the longer-term record. When we follow decade-to-decade trends using multiple data sets and independent analyses from around the world, we see clear and unmistakable signs of a warming world.” While year-to-year changes in temperature often reflect natural climatic variations such as El Niño/La Niña events, changes in average temperature from decade-to-decade reveal long-term trends such as global warming. Each of the last three decades has been much warmer than the decade before. At the time, the 1980s was the hottest decade on record. In the 1990s, every year was warmer than the average of the previous decade. The 2000s were warmer still. “The temperature increase of one degree Fahrenheit over the past 50 years may seem small, but it has already altered our planet,” said Deke Arndt, co-editor of the report and chief of the Climate Monitoring Branch of NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center. “Glaciers and sea ice are melting, heavy rainfall is intensifying and heat waves are more common. And, as the new report tells us, there is now evidence that over 90 percent of warming over the past 50 years has gone into our ocean.”

Cooked records are just cooked records dweeb. No one believes the horseshit anymore. Get used to it. You've failed.

All that post is is a confirmation that they have been altering records going back 50 years. They got caught. No one believes them anymore except for you ignorant anti science religious fanatic dupes.

We can always count on the walleyedretard to conclusively demonstrate the insane desperation of the hardcore denier cult troll with his absurd and totally crackpot conspiracy theories about the world scientific community.

Good work confirming the OP, walleyed. LOL.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yes your whining and sniveling is quite amusing to us who actually care about science. Your little cult fantasies and cries of hysteria failed silly boy....time to move on...

More delusional twaddle. Actual science from the world scientific community completely supports the reality of AGW.

NOAA: Past Decade Warmest on Record According to Scientists in 48 Countries
Earth has been growing warmer for more than fifty years
NOAA
State of the Climate
The 2009 State of the Climate report released today draws on data for 10 key climate indicators that all point to the same finding: the scientific evidence that our world is warming is unmistakable. More than 300 scientists from 160 research groups in 48 countries contributed to the report, which confirms that the past decade was the warmest on record and that the Earth has been growing warmer over the last 50 years. Based on comprehensive data from multiple sources, the report defines 10 measurable planet-wide features used to gauge global temperature changes. The relative movement of each of these indicators proves consistent with a warming world. Seven indicators are rising: air temperature over land, sea-surface temperature, air temperature over oceans, sea level, ocean heat, humidity and tropospheric temperature in the “active-weather” layer of the atmosphere closest to the Earth’s surface. Three indicators are declining: Arctic sea ice, glaciers and spring snow cover in the Northern hemisphere. “For the first time, and in a single compelling comparison, the analysis brings together multiple observational records from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the ocean,” said Jane Lubchenco, Ph.D., under secretary of commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA administrator. “The records come from many institutions worldwide. They use data collected from diverse sources, including satellites, weather balloons, weather stations, ships, buoys and field surveys. These independently produced lines of evidence all point to the same conclusion: our planet is warming,”

The report emphasizes that human society has developed for thousands of years under one climatic state, and now a new set of climatic conditions are taking shape. These conditions are consistently warmer, and some areas are likely to see more extreme events like severe drought, torrential rain and violent storms. “Despite the variability caused by short-term changes, the analysis conducted for this report illustrates why we are so confident the world is warming,” said Peter Stott, Ph.D., contributor to the report and head of Climate Monitoring and Attribution of the United Kingdom Met Office Hadley Centre. “When we look at air temperature and other indicators of climate, we see highs and lows in the data from year to year because of natural variability. Understanding climate change requires looking at the longer-term record. When we follow decade-to-decade trends using multiple data sets and independent analyses from around the world, we see clear and unmistakable signs of a warming world.” While year-to-year changes in temperature often reflect natural climatic variations such as El Niño/La Niña events, changes in average temperature from decade-to-decade reveal long-term trends such as global warming. Each of the last three decades has been much warmer than the decade before. At the time, the 1980s was the hottest decade on record. In the 1990s, every year was warmer than the average of the previous decade. The 2000s were warmer still. “The temperature increase of one degree Fahrenheit over the past 50 years may seem small, but it has already altered our planet,” said Deke Arndt, co-editor of the report and chief of the Climate Monitoring Branch of NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center. “Glaciers and sea ice are melting, heavy rainfall is intensifying and heat waves are more common. And, as the new report tells us, there is now evidence that over 90 percent of warming over the past 50 years has gone into our ocean.”

Golly... you'd think with ALL of that melting Ice that SOME of it would cause sea-levels to rise somewhere. Yet NO WHERE ON EARTH are seas rising.

(Stand by for the incoming of: FALSE DATA. If it helps, I've lived within half a mile of the Gulf of Mexico; which is intrinsically connected to every ocean and sea on earth, for over 50 years... and it's not risen a bit in all of that time. Still rising and falling twice a day... to and from the same points.)

There is no such thing as AGW... it's a myth created by the Ideological Left, as a means to fraudulently acquire power.

This is not the first time this has happened. There have been MANY attempts by various cults to warn of planetary doom, falling skies and such. All of which was covered in the fable "Chicken Little". You should check it out, there is a surprise moral to the story, of which you're clearly ignorant.

My, my, another really dumb ass.

Is sea level rising?

There is strong evidence that global sea level is now rising at an increased rate and will continue to rise during this century.

While studies show that sea levels changed little from AD 0 until 1900, sea levels began to climb in the 20th century.

The two major causes of global sea-level rise are thermal expansion caused by the warming of the oceans (since water expands as it warms) and the loss of land-based ice (such as glaciers and polar ice caps) due to increased melting.

Records and research show that sea level has been steadily rising at a rate of 0.04 to 0.1 inches per year since 1900.

This rate may be increasing. Since 1992, new methods of satellite altimetry (the measurement of elevation or altitude) indicate a rate of rise of 0.12 inches per year.

This is a significantly larger rate than the sea-level rise averaged over the last several thousand years.

Infographic: Sea Level Rise and Global Warming | Union of Concerned Scientists

Sea level is rising -- and at an accelerating rate -- especially along the U.S. East Coast and Gulf of Mexico.

 

[Old Rocks]

Once again the vacuum headed deniers have managed to make five posts without even once saying anything relevant to the OP or the thread of discussion. All of their nonsense and drivel just confirms some of the points made in the OP, particularly about desperation.

Well, in their defense, the earth's atmosphere warms and cools in a constant cycle, resulting from minor variations in the earths orbit and output of the sun. Which means that AGW is a farce; which is to say AGW represents a litany of deceits, fraudulently advanced as a means in influence the ignorant.


Deceit, FRAUD, Ignorance: The Triumvirate of Evil at the hollow core of socialism.

Which means you are an idiot. Good God, you think that because of the Milankovic Cycles, that the addition of massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere will have no effects?

 

[skookerasbil]

The earth has always had a way of keeping things in balance and always will. Just the idea that some people think that man can generate massive changes in the earths climate has always been on the order of hysterical to me. Weve got some climate change going on for sure ( Im freezing here in the Pocono's this am in mid-August ) but man-made? I don't think so...........but the concept sure does provide the government another way to tax the small guy into poverty.

 

[saveliberty]

The Faithers would like us to think the whole globe is getting warmer. Someone from this very board in Germany says its a cool summer there too.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Once again the vacuum headed deniers have managed to make five posts without even once saying anything relevant to the OP or the thread of discussion. All of their nonsense and drivel just confirms some of the points made in the OP, particularly about desperation.

Well, in their defense, the earth's atmosphere warms and cools in a constant cycle, resulting from minor variations in the earths orbit and output of the sun. Which means that AGW is a farce; which is to say AGW represents a litany of deceits, fraudulently advanced as a means in influence the ignorant.


Deceit, FRAUD, Ignorance: The Triumvirate of Evil at the hollow core of socialism.

Which means you are an idiot. Good God, you think that because of the Milankovic Cycles, that the addition of massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere will have no effects?

LOL! Now isn't that precious? I SO adore the sweeter ironies.

Using the word "MASSIVE" where "otherwise inconsequential" is appropriate, then espousing dispersions upon those who recognize the foolishness common to such.

LMAO! Hysterical, in every conceivable sense of the word.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The earth has always had a way of keeping things in balance and always will. Just the idea that some people think that man can generate massive changes in the earths climate has always been on the order of hysterical to me. Weve got some climate change going on for sure ( Im freezing here in the Pocono's this am in mid-August ) but man-made? I don't think so...........but the concept sure does provide the government another way to tax the small guy into poverty.

So true...

I believe it was on NOVA, but a few years ago, the Left created a documentary wherein they showed how Mars could be used as an escape planet to avoid extinction by remaining on the declining earth.

In this was an animation where Astronauts would build carbon belching 'factories' across the surface of Mars, which would thicken the atmosphere, inducing the dreaded "Greenhouse" effect and PRESTO Humanity would be saved!

It's fraudulence and deception, which is wholly dependent upon ignorance, on a grand scale.

 

[Crick]

No, it is not. And I can guarantee you that whatever documentary you watched, it was not produced by "The Left". Jesus. Do you check under your bed every night looking for Saul Alinsky?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Once again the vacuum headed deniers have managed to make five posts without even once saying anything relevant to the OP or the thread of discussion. All of their nonsense and drivel just confirms some of the points made in the OP, particularly about desperation.

Well, in their defense, the earth's atmosphere warms and cools in a constant cycle, resulting from minor variations in the earths orbit and output of the sun. Which means that AGW is a farce; which is to say AGW represents a litany of deceits, fraudulently advanced as a means in influence the ignorant.


Deceit, FRAUD, Ignorance: The Triumvirate of Evil at the hollow core of socialism.

Which means you are an idiot. Good God, you think that because of the Milankovic Cycles, that the addition of massive amounts of GHGs to the atmosphere will have no effects?

so how easy should it be to drop a wisp of CO2, like 100PPM, into tank and get a 4 degree temperature increase?

 

[Crick]

Well, in their defense, the earth's atmosphere warms and cools in a constant cycle, resulting from minor variations in the earths orbit and output of the sun. Which means that AGW is a farce

Would you care to explain how, even were your "constant cycle" idea true, it prevents AGW from taking place?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

No, it is not. And I can guarantee you that whatever documentary you watched, it was not produced by "The Left". Jesus. Do you check under your bed every night looking for Saul Alinsky?

I am perfectly willing to accept that.

And ALL i need to accept it, is ONE valid example of any species of reasoning OTHER THAN THE LEFT, that adheres to or otherwise promotes the hysterical notions common to AGW.

Just one... take your time and by ALL MEANS consult the Oracle of All Wiki-Knowledge. I'll be here for ya.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Well, in their defense, the earth's atmosphere warms and cools in a constant cycle, resulting from minor variations in the earths orbit and output of the sun. Which means that AGW is a farce

Would you care to explain how, even were your "constant cycle" idea true, it prevents AGW from taking place?

Natural cycles don't prevent anything, they simply are the natural order things... What prevents AGW from taking place is the scope of the environment versus the pitiful scope of humanity.

Now the scope of humanities foot print is governed by the nature of the species itself.

Wherein population is checked by the biological nature of mammals. Once the environment is sufficiently stressed, a hormonal trigger is induced which induces a psychosis that results in any number of means to reduce the stress. One of the first is the proliferation of homosexuality. The second is the induced notions of entitlement... which it appears to be some sort of trigger; wherein nature uses that to force the culture into the final phase, which is unbridled war. Where all sense of 'humanity' is suspended, until the herd is sufficiently culled.

We're probably within a few years of that, if not sooner.

To 'believe' in AGW, one needs to be void of any discernible means to reason. It is little more than intellectual fodder for the idiots.

 

[Old Rocks]

The earth has always had a way of keeping things in balance and always will. Just the idea that some people think that man can generate massive changes in the earths climate has always been on the order of hysterical to me. Weve got some climate change going on for sure ( Im freezing here in the Pocono's this am in mid-August ) but man-made? I don't think so...........but the concept sure does provide the government another way to tax the small guy into poverty.

No, it has not. About 2.2 billion years ago, blue-green algea changed the atmosphere of the earth, and initiated a 'snowball' earth.

SNOWBALL EARTH

The oldest snowball earth goes all the way back to ~2200 Ma, which is nearly half the age of the Earth (4567 Ma). The present distribution of glacial deposits is quite limited, occurring principally in South Africa as the Makganyene (Mak-han-yee-nee) Formation. They are believed to represent a snowball earth because paleomagnetic evidence (of Earth"s past magnetic field "fossilized" in rock) suggests they were deposited close to the equator. This finding was reported in 1997 by David Evans, Nic Beukes and Joe Kirschvink (who named and recognized the cyclic nature of snowball earths). The Makganyene snowball earth is broadly associated in time with the rise of "free" oxygen, molecular O2, the most profound revolution of the Earth"s surface (atmosphere, oceans, crust and life) in its entire history.

At the end of the Permian, a volcanic event, the Siberian Trapps, initiated a series of events that resulted in the extinction of 95% of the species then alive.

End-Permian mass extinction (the Great Dying) | Natural History Museum


252 million years ago.

What went extinct?

51% of all marine families, 82% of all genera, an estimated 93-97% of all species.

Having survived 2 mass extinctions, only a few localised and specialised populations of trilobites remained. These prehistoric relatives of crabs, spiders and insects finally disappeared from the fossil record completely, bringing to an end 270 million years of trilobites roaming the oceans.

The scorpion-like eurypterids, formidable marine predators that thrived in warm shallow water, were another major group that ceased to exist. And the extinction of reef-building corals meant an entire ecosystem vanished.


Map of the world as it was 260 million years ago. The supercontinent Pangaea stretched from pole to pole, creating environmental conditions that put many species under stress. © Ron Blakey, Colorado Plateau Geosystems, Inc
Both marine and land animals were affected. Many of the early groups of insects died out, the only mass extinction that has been observed for insects.

Only land plants apparently came through mostly unscathed. Even so, forests - another major ecosystem - virtually disappeared.

There were 4 more major extinction events, the last being the K-T extinction caused by an asteroid impact on the Yucatan Peninsula.

You push the system far enough out of ballance, and over it goes. Basic Chaos Theory.

 

[westwall]

The earth has always had a way of keeping things in balance and always will. Just the idea that some people think that man can generate massive changes in the earths climate has always been on the order of hysterical to me. Weve got some climate change going on for sure ( Im freezing here in the Pocono's this am in mid-August ) but man-made? I don't think so...........but the concept sure does provide the government another way to tax the small guy into poverty.

No, it has not. About 2.2 billion years ago, blue-green algea changed the atmosphere of the earth, and initiated a 'snowball' earth.

SNOWBALL EARTH

The oldest snowball earth goes all the way back to ~2200 Ma, which is nearly half the age of the Earth (4567 Ma). The present distribution of glacial deposits is quite limited, occurring principally in South Africa as the Makganyene (Mak-han-yee-nee) Formation. They are believed to represent a snowball earth because paleomagnetic evidence (of Earth"s past magnetic field "fossilized" in rock) suggests they were deposited close to the equator. This finding was reported in 1997 by David Evans, Nic Beukes and Joe Kirschvink (who named and recognized the cyclic nature of snowball earths). The Makganyene snowball earth is broadly associated in time with the rise of "free" oxygen, molecular O2, the most profound revolution of the Earth"s surface (atmosphere, oceans, crust and life) in its entire history.

At the end of the Permian, a volcanic event, the Siberian Trapps, initiated a series of events that resulted in the extinction of 95% of the species then alive.

End-Permian mass extinction (the Great Dying) | Natural History Museum


252 million years ago.

What went extinct?

51% of all marine families, 82% of all genera, an estimated 93-97% of all species.

Having survived 2 mass extinctions, only a few localised and specialised populations of trilobites remained. These prehistoric relatives of crabs, spiders and insects finally disappeared from the fossil record completely, bringing to an end 270 million years of trilobites roaming the oceans.

The scorpion-like eurypterids, formidable marine predators that thrived in warm shallow water, were another major group that ceased to exist. And the extinction of reef-building corals meant an entire ecosystem vanished.


Map of the world as it was 260 million years ago. The supercontinent Pangaea stretched from pole to pole, creating environmental conditions that put many species under stress. © Ron Blakey, Colorado Plateau Geosystems, Inc
Both marine and land animals were affected. Many of the early groups of insects died out, the only mass extinction that has been observed for insects.

Only land plants apparently came through mostly unscathed. Even so, forests - another major ecosystem - virtually disappeared.

There were 4 more major extinction events, the last being the K-T extinction caused by an asteroid impact on the Yucatan Peninsula.

You push the system far enough out of ballance, and over it goes. Basic Chaos Theory.

Sooooo....an extraterrestrial event nearly wiped out all life on Earth huh....

 

[Crick]

Yes. Got a point?

 

[Kosh]

Once again the chart that shows that AGW is truly a religion not based in science:

 

[Crick]

HotWhopper: Roy Spencer's latest deceit and deception

With this chart, Roy Spencer has abandoned the last vestiges he possessed of professional ethics. This chart is a blatant lie.