Global Warming: BFD

[westwall]

Frank, I think you're capable of grasping the current mainstream position re the basic workings of Earth's climate. I think I have to conclude that you continue to talk about the ocean eating temperatures and hidden heat and wisps of CO2 and arrogant claims because you fully understand that if you attempted to present factual points, you would, with that very decision, lose the argument.

Yes we all understand that the current mainstream position is a fraud designed to make very rich people even richer, enfeeble the middle class with the eventual goal of destroying the middle class, and centralizing governmental control over the poor citizens with the ultimate goal of enslaving them. That much is very clear. What is also very clear is that the science is false as well. There is no empirical data to support it at all. None. Your "science" is based on computer generated fiction and nothing more.

 

[westwall]

Frank, I think you're capable of grasping the current mainstream position re the basic workings of Earth's climate. I think I have to conclude that you continue to talk about the ocean eating temperatures and hidden heat and wisps of CO2 and arrogant claims because you fully understand that if you attempted to present factual points, you would, with that very decision, lose the argument.

The only demonstrable arrogance is that shown by a group of failures who claim "consensus" in a scientific field. People who can't seem to get their math correct. People who when their predictions are actually looked at are failures.

Yes, there is gross arrogance demonstrated here...and it is you perpetrating it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Flipping channels last night, a rare TV night and I found a show on Titanoboa, a 50 foot long 2,500 pound snake that lived 60MYA

Titanoboa: Monster Snake

It lived in South America along with 40 foot crocodiles and giant turtles in what must have been a great inland sea -- when the temperature must have been much much much warmer in order to support giant lizards. Did I mention that it was MUCH WARMER?

They estimated at least 10 degrees warmer than today

At least 10 degrees warmer than today

And the morons walking the Earth today are fretting about an imaginary .5 degree increase that was eaten by the ocean

And the snake lived about 65 million years ago long before man walked the earth. A time when most of the recognizable land masses today were covered with water and a period when most large vertebrates became extinct. With a 10 degree rise in world temperatures, life as we know it today would cease to exist.

No Honey Boo Boo. That's the point, there were snakes, crocodiles, turtles, fish and plants, just like today only much much bigger

But there were no men that walked the earth and most the recognizable land masses of today were covered by water, not a very hospitable place for modern man.

There was plenty of land. The lesson is that warmer climate makes living things grow larger so they hysteria over the imaginary "Warmest Summa EVAH!" is just stupid

Yes there was land, not near as much as there is today. The United States was much smaller. The eastern and western seaboard was under water as was most of Mexico and Central America. The American plains where we grow most of our grains was a rain forest.

A temperature change to what it was more than 65 million years ago would not produce anything even close to the plant and animal life that existed then because the base line of existing species is far different.

So you didn't read about the 30 foot tall tomato plants in the thread either

Atmospheric Experiments | Genesis Park

 

[westwall]

Flipping channels last night, a rare TV night and I found a show on Titanoboa, a 50 foot long 2,500 pound snake that lived 60MYA

Titanoboa: Monster Snake

It lived in South America along with 40 foot crocodiles and giant turtles in what must have been a great inland sea -- when the temperature must have been much much much warmer in order to support giant lizards. Did I mention that it was MUCH WARMER?

They estimated at least 10 degrees warmer than today

At least 10 degrees warmer than today

And the morons walking the Earth today are fretting about an imaginary .5 degree increase that was eaten by the ocean

And the snake lived about 65 million years ago long before man walked the earth. A time when most of the recognizable land masses today were covered with water and a period when most large vertebrates became extinct. With a 10 degree rise in world temperatures, life as we know it today would cease to exist.

No Honey Boo Boo. That's the point, there were snakes, crocodiles, turtles, fish and plants, just like today only much much bigger

But there were no men that walked the earth and most the recognizable land masses of today were covered by water, not a very hospitable place for modern man.

There was plenty of land. The lesson is that warmer climate makes living things grow larger so they hysteria over the imaginary "Warmest Summa EVAH!" is just stupid

Yes there was land, not near as much as there is today. The United States was much smaller. The eastern and western seaboard was under water as was most of Mexico and Central America. The American plains where we grow most of our grains was a rain forest.

A temperature change to what it was more than 65 million years ago would not produce anything even close to the plant and animal life that existed then because the base line of existing species is far different.

Really? Based on geologic evidence the continents are the proximal cause for the cooling of the Earth. Before the breakup of Pangea the global temperature was much higher. In fact 75% of the Earths history has been warmer than the present time. Much warmer. The anomaly is NOW.

 

[mamooth]

It appears we can add all those in agriscience and zoology to the list of those in the GreatSocialistConspiracy who are saying warming would be bad.

It must be rough, living on a planet where everyone is conspiring against you. Only the knowledge that they and a select few know TheRealTruth keeps them going.

And I see Frank is using creationist websites now. No surprise.

 

[flacaltenn]

It appears we can add all those in agriscience and zoology to the list of those in the GreatSocialistConspiracy who are saying warming would be bad.

It must be rough, living on a planet where everyone is conspiring against you. Only the knowledge that they and a select few know TheRealTruth keeps them going.

And I see Frank is using creationist websites now. No surprise.

Well now that the "consensus" has backed away from 8 to 12degC by 2100 --- NONE of us have anything to worry about -- do we? At this point -- with a decadal warming rate of 0.12degC or so --- your Kabuki show is pretty much over except for the dancing and the ritual falling on the swords...

 

[Crick]

Show us a prediction of 8-12C by 2100.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Check it out. Bergmann's Rule has the deniers in full meltdown mode.

Deniers, what do you see in the far north? Moose or deer? Now which one is bigger? So, why don't you see moose in Texas? Any guesses?

Which creatures can successfully inhabit the deep desert? Would it be the horses, or the much smaller burros?

What do you find in arctic waters, dolphins or the whales?

Hey, overheating is all irrelevant.

Talking to deniers is like talking to children. Idiot children. I don't think a one of 'em has experience making sure a horse doesn't overheat. Or keeping cattle alive in a heat wave. Or even trying to keep themselves from overheating, for that matter, being how the denier crowd here displays zero common-sense experience at all concerning being outdoors in the real world.

Oh, how's California agriculture doing this year? What, down 30%? How can that be, as all the deniers here swear heat is wonderful?

You smoking crack again? Where does the elephant, hippo, giraffe live the north pole or Africa?

Here just for you

During the Mesozoic era (dated about 245 to 66.4 million years ago), when dinosaurs lived, the Earth was supposed to have been much warmer than today. The Mesozoic era is made up of the Triassic, Jurassic, and Cretaceous periods. According to Lee R. Kump and colleagues at Pennsylvania State University (The Earth System, Lee R. Kump, James F. Kasting, and Robert G. Crane, 2010), fossil evidence indicates that

[T]he Mid-Cretaceous climate was on the order of 2 to 6ºC (3.6-11º F) warmer at the equator and 20 to 60ºC (36-110ºF) warmer at the poles

Climate Change, Nothing New? How Has Earth's Temperature Changed in the Past? - ThomasNet News

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It appears we can add all those in agriscience and zoology to the list of those in the GreatSocialistConspiracy who are saying warming would be bad.

It must be rough, living on a planet where everyone is conspiring against you. Only the knowledge that they and a select few know TheRealTruth keeps them going.

And I see Frank is using creationist websites now. No surprise.

Did you see the 30 foot tall tomato plants grown in a high CO2 environment?

 

[Crick]

Did you see the family of four dead of anoxia?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Did you see the family of four dead of anoxia?

Off topic

 

[Crick]

You brought up elevated CO2 levels.

 

[mamooth]

His creationist website showed a big tomato plant grown in a hyperbaric chamber with a special nutrient mix.

Being Frank, he somehow equates that with elevated CO2 in the real world. Nobody knows why.

 

[flacaltenn]

Show us a prediction of 8-12C by 2100.

I'll give it to you in ONE EAR -- and it will out the OTHER EAR before lunchtime.. You are just too high maintenance to be here to LEARN anything. There has to other reasons you have 20,000 posts as Crick and Ham..

Don't have time to get the actual SOURCE -- but the NASA projections are in VIDEOS right on this page..

NASA predicts 8 degrees of warming in the US by 2100
Anthony Watts / July 29, 2013


For the National Climate Assessment NASA has produced a model-based prediction of eight degrees Fahrenheit for the continental US by 2100 as the most likely scenario

Story submitted by Ben Bakker

NASA scientists have created a video showing predicted dramatic heating of the continental US between now and the year 2100. The video and prediction show results of models assuming a rise in CO2 to a low of 550 ppm and a high of 800 ppm by 2100. The NASA team states that the 800 ppm value is a more likely scenario. The scenarios based upon their models lead to rises of 4 degrees and 8 degrees Fahrenheit respectively across the contiguous US. Video follows:

The team states that they calibrated 15 different models to the years as a baseline for comparison. They created two videos showing the changes in temperatures and precipitation.

NASA predicts 8 degrees of warming in the US by 2100

You'll also those claims of 8 -- 12 degCENTIGRADE by 2100 ALL OVER THE FUNCKING Lit before about 2010 or so....
You're heroes know BETTER now than to support that crap..

With the EXCEPTION OF NASA as displayed above.. They've gone ROGUE and Commando on this whole circus.. Need to get smacked down....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No, dear little idiots, we are worried about the effects of the 0.8 degree increase. Effects we are seeing right now in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and California. But just keep braying, and flap yapping, we will use all of you nonsense against your candidates in 2016.

As far as the GOP is concerned, you really should re-think your positions. The CrusaderFranks have become the face of your party. Ignorant knownothing loudmouths.

Even if you were successful in your insane attempt to have us all live off the grid like the Amish and Mick Dodge, the climate would still change.

President Trump needs to zero out all the money wasted on EnviroMarxism

OMG!!!!

President Trump needs to zero out all the money wasted on EnviroMarxism

^ Aug 20, 2015. I fucking nailed it!!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No, dear little idiots, we are worried about the effects of the 0.8 degree increase. Effects we are seeing right now in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and California. But just keep braying, and flap yapping, we will use all of you nonsense against your candidates in 2016.

As far as the GOP is concerned, you really should re-think your positions. The CrusaderFranks have become the face of your party. Ignorant knownothing loudmouths.

Even if you were successful in your insane attempt to have us all live off the grid like the Amish and Mick Dodge, the climate would still change.

President Trump needs to zero out all the money wasted on EnviroMarxism

OMG!!!!

President Trump needs to zero out all the money wasted on EnviroMarxism

^ Aug 20, 2015. I fucking nailed it!!!

Are you fucking kidding me????

How did I do that???

 

[evenflow1969]

Flipping channels last night, a rare TV night and I found a show on Titanoboa, a 50 foot long 2,500 pound snake that lived 60MYA

Titanoboa: Monster Snake

It lived in South America along with 40 foot crocodiles and giant turtles in what must have been a great inland sea -- when the temperature must have been much much much warmer in order to support giant lizards. Did I mention that it was MUCH WARMER?

They estimated at least 10 degrees warmer than today

At least 10 degrees warmer than today

And the morons walking the Earth today are fretting about an imaginary .5 degree increase that was eaten by the ocean

And the snake lived about 65 million years ago long before man walked the earth. A time when most of the recognizable land masses today were covered with water and a period when most large vertebrates became extinct. With a 10 degree rise in world temperatures, life as we know it today would cease to exist.

No Honey Boo Boo. That's the point, there were snakes, crocodiles, turtles, fish and plants, just like today only much much bigger

But there were no men that walked the earth and most the recognizable land masses of today were covered by water, not a very hospitable place for modern man.

There was plenty of land. The lesson is that warmer climate makes living things grow larger so they hysteria over the imaginary "Warmest Summa EVAH!" is just stupid

Yes there was land, not near as much as there is today. The United States was much smaller. The eastern and western seaboard was under water as was most of Mexico and Central America. The American plains where we grow most of our grains was a rain forest.

A temperature change to what it was more than 65 million years ago would not produce anything even close to the plant and animal life that existed then because the base line of existing species is far different.

They do not care flopper. You can hit them with logic all day and it just falls on deaf ears. They beleive that they can estimate temperature millions of years ago by ice cores. Do I need say more? I can surely estimate the temperature at the time the water froze. I bet is was 0 celsius or below. CO2 levels can be estimated to a point back then. Of course the likely hood of ice remaining ice over millions of years is a bit laughable. Stick with simpie subject's with these guys.

 

[jc456]

And the snake lived about 65 million years ago long before man walked the earth. A time when most of the recognizable land masses today were covered with water and a period when most large vertebrates became extinct. With a 10 degree rise in world temperatures, life as we know it today would cease to exist.

No Honey Boo Boo. That's the point, there were snakes, crocodiles, turtles, fish and plants, just like today only much much bigger

But there were no men that walked the earth and most the recognizable land masses of today were covered by water, not a very hospitable place for modern man.

There was plenty of land. The lesson is that warmer climate makes living things grow larger so they hysteria over the imaginary "Warmest Summa EVAH!" is just stupid

Yes there was land, not near as much as there is today. The United States was much smaller. The eastern and western seaboard was under water as was most of Mexico and Central America. The American plains where we grow most of our grains was a rain forest.

A temperature change to what it was more than 65 million years ago would not produce anything even close to the plant and animal life that existed then because the base line of existing species is far different.

They do not care flopper. You can hit them with logic all day and it just falls on deaf ears. They beleive that they can estimate temperature millions of years ago by ice cores. Do I need say more? I can surely estimate the temperature at the time the water froze. I bet is was 0 celsius or below. CO2 levels can be estimated to a point back then. Of course the likely hood of ice remaining ice over millions of years is a bit laughable. Stick with simpie subject's with these guys.

Logic? Logic? Logic? You? Nope

 

[evenflow1969]

No Honey Boo Boo. That's the point, there were snakes, crocodiles, turtles, fish and plants, just like today only much much bigger

But there were no men that walked the earth and most the recognizable land masses of today were covered by water, not a very hospitable place for modern man.

There was plenty of land. The lesson is that warmer climate makes living things grow larger so they hysteria over the imaginary "Warmest Summa EVAH!" is just stupid

Yes there was land, not near as much as there is today. The United States was much smaller. The eastern and western seaboard was under water as was most of Mexico and Central America. The American plains where we grow most of our grains was a rain forest.

A temperature change to what it was more than 65 million years ago would not produce anything even close to the plant and animal life that existed then because the base line of existing species is far different.

They do not care flopper. You can hit them with logic all day and it just falls on deaf ears. They beleive that they can estimate temperature millions of years ago by ice cores. Do I need say more? I can surely estimate the temperature at the time the water froze. I bet is was 0 celsius or below. CO2 levels can be estimated to a point back then. Of course the likely hood of ice remaining ice over millions of years is a bit laughable. Stick with simpie subject's with these guys.

Logic? Logic? Logic? You? Nope

your hillarious.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And the snake lived about 65 million years ago long before man walked the earth. A time when most of the recognizable land masses today were covered with water and a period when most large vertebrates became extinct. With a 10 degree rise in world temperatures, life as we know it today would cease to exist.

No Honey Boo Boo. That's the point, there were snakes, crocodiles, turtles, fish and plants, just like today only much much bigger

But there were no men that walked the earth and most the recognizable land masses of today were covered by water, not a very hospitable place for modern man.

There was plenty of land. The lesson is that warmer climate makes living things grow larger so they hysteria over the imaginary "Warmest Summa EVAH!" is just stupid

Yes there was land, not near as much as there is today. The United States was much smaller. The eastern and western seaboard was under water as was most of Mexico and Central America. The American plains where we grow most of our grains was a rain forest.

A temperature change to what it was more than 65 million years ago would not produce anything even close to the plant and animal life that existed then because the base line of existing species is far different.

They do not care flopper. You can hit them with logic all day and it just falls on deaf ears. They beleive that they can estimate temperature millions of years ago by ice cores. Do I need say more? I can surely estimate the temperature at the time the water froze. I bet is was 0 celsius or below. CO2 levels can be estimated to a point back then. Of course the likely hood of ice remaining ice over millions of years is a bit laughable. Stick with simpie subject's with these guys.

Some believe these are the wettest hurricanes ever