Global temperature has not risen in 15 years....

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    So contrary to the bullshine Al Gore has been spurting; the global warming argument for C02 driving the temperature in our atmosphere is dead in the water.

    As Reported by the Daily Mail:

    Global warming has halted: That's what happened to 'warmest year on record' | Mail Online

    :clap2: A main stream media outlet spurting a bit of truth for once.

    The Climate Gate scandal 1 & 2.0 proved that this Global Warming scam is just a criminal conspiracy, but still Al Gore is peddling it! I think it is time for the people to demand an investigation into Al Gore for possible fraud. He is clearly making millions of dollars off of peddling the 'GREEN LIE'.

    Will any laws passed this far be removed from the statute?

    What do you guys think?
     
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    Respectfully, may I ask: Do you live in the UK? And if you do, why do you care about what Al Gore does? Educate me. Are his claims about global warming having an effect on the policies in your country?

    Or is that just part of your nickname...just because? Or is it University of Kentucky?
     
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    Why on earth wouldn't an honest person not be exposing the truth to people?
     
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    Are you a scientist? If you are, kudos to you. I'm not. And therefore, I don't have enough objective evidence to say whether it is true, or not.

    I believe it, just from my own surroundings for the last 20 years. Odd weather. Tulips blooming in January..things like that.

    I didn't see those things as a child.
     
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    [/quote]

    Respectfully, may I ask: Do you live in the UK? And if you do, why do you care about what Al Gore does? Educate me. Are his claims about global warming having an effect on the policies in your country?

    Or is that just part of your nickname...just because? Or is it University of Kentucky?[/QUOTE]

    Yes I do live in the UK and Al Gore and his fairy tale has effected us big style in the UK.

    Firstly Al Gores film "An inconvenient Truth" is being pushed in our schools like the AGW is a fact.

    We are getting taxed in numerous ways because we are apparently emitting C02 in a number of ways like flying, using your car, and using gas and electricity etc..

    Many polices from building control down to small business's are suffering because of the bureaucracy of doing this; that, and the other which in turn is costing money. (Particularly to small business.)

    Finally the Global Warming argument will bring us into a post industrial era' were neo-feudalism runs rife. (That's not a society that I am willing to put my children through, after all we live in the 21st century.)

    I hope this helps you understand a little.
     
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    Welcome to the Global Village, Mskafka.
     
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    Respectfully, may I ask: Do you live in the UK? And if you do, why do you care about what Al Gore does? Educate me. Are his claims about global warming having an effect on the policies in your country?

    Or is that just part of your nickname...just because? Or is it University of Kentucky?[/QUOTE]

    Yes I do live in the UK and Al Gore and his fairy tale has effected us big style in the UK.

    Firstly Al Gores film "An inconvenient Truth" is being pushed in our schools like the AGW is a fact.

    We are getting taxed in numerous ways because we are apparently emitting C02 in a number of ways like flying, using your car, and using gas and electricity etc..

    Many polices from building control down to small business's are suffering because of the bureaucracy of doing this; that, and the other which in turn is costing money. (Particularly to small business.)

    Finally the Global Warming argument will bring us into a post industrial era' were neo-feudalism runs rife. (That's not a society that I am willing to put my children through, after all we live in the 21st century.)

    I hope this helps you understand a little.[/QUOTE]

    Oh, absolutely. I had no idea that our former politicians had so influence in your country. Yes, that would be frustrating to me.

    I'm not sure that he is really qualified to speak on these scientific theories. I guess he's just been chosen to be the mouthpiece on the issue. He had many majors in college. I think he dropped out of law school, but he may have finished later. Wow, I never knew how little I knew about the man.

    I personally believe that he believes everything that he passionately advocates. However, many speculate that he's raking in the dough to peddle these theories and hypotheses.

    If you're concerned with neo-feudalism, your gov't must REALLY be pushing the electric cars, and such. And that would be fine and good. But the problem is that most people just plain cannot afford the vehicles. I would LOVE to own one.

    You seem like a reasonable and intelligent person. So I don't really have to tell you that elevating levels of CO2-if we are in fact able to decrease our emissions-is a good thing. CO2 is not "harmless". We are slowly suffocating ourselves. And it's not just us. It really does little good, if other countries aren't holding themselves to higher standards....and we know that they aren't.

    But in any case, being forced to watch Al Gore (even though I actually do like the guy) is akin...I hate to say this; but socialism. But really, I do think they mean well. But there are REAL scientists who can explain this much more eloquently than Al Gore on the subject. I would suggest listening to them; if it has to be done.
     
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    Because he's using truth to further a lie. Sure, things may be flat or actually become cooler for a while, but that's just natural cycles. You know, the thing they say "warmists" ignore, but is conveniently forgotten, when it serves the deniers' purpose. The bottom line is, if CO2 keeps going up, the extra trapped IR WILL effect temps. There's no getting around Conservation of Energy.

    There's another way you can tell that this OP is bogus. People that know the subject, discuss it. Those that don't, talk about Gore.
     
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    I hate it for them. I really do. That movie (no offense to anyone who enjoyed it) is as exciting as watching paint dry.
     
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    Respectfully, may I ask: Do you live in the UK? And if you do, why do you care about what Al Gore does? Educate me. Are his claims about global warming having an effect on the policies in your country?

    Or is that just part of your nickname...just because? Or is it University of Kentucky?[/QUOTE]

    Yes I do live in the UK and Al Gore and his fairy tale has effected us big style in the UK.

    Firstly Al Gores film "An inconvenient Truth" is being pushed in our schools like the AGW is a fact.

    We are getting taxed in numerous ways because we are apparently emitting C02 in a number of ways like flying, using your car, and using gas and electricity etc..

    Many polices from building control down to small business's are suffering because of the bureaucracy of doing this; that, and the other which in turn is costing money. (Particularly to small business.)

    Finally the Global Warming argument will bring us into a post industrial era' were neo-feudalism runs rife. (That's not a society that I am willing to put my children through, after all we live in the 21st century.)

    I hope this helps you understand a little.[/QUOTE]
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    Whether Gore is right or not, whether climate change exists or not.... We've got one atmosphere and it's what separates us from oblivion. It's probably best not to screw with it at all. It's not like we have another world to go to if we blow it here.........at least not yet. I'm not sure how small business is suffering due to climate regulations but if it comes down to a choice between economic policy and breathing, I'll choose the latter.
     
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