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Ice sheets in Greenland are melting faster than ever before, according to new research.

The study, led by Marco Tedesco, director of the Cryospheric Processes laboratory at the City College of New York, showed that the melting index had broken the previous record, set in 2007.

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(Photo: CCNY / Marco Tedesco)
The figure shows the standardized melting index anomaly for the period 1979 - 2010. The center line is the mean fro 1979-2009. Related Articles


"Melting in 2010 started exceptionally early at the end of April and ended quite late in mid- September," Tedesco said in a statement. "This past melt season was exceptional, with melting in some areas stretching up to 50 days longer than average."

A melting Greenland ice sheet contributes to sea level rise, which has occurred at a mean rate of about 1.8 millimeters per year over the past century. If the Greenland ice sheet were to melt completely it would raise sea levels by 7 meters. But that is unlikely to happen for several centuries at least.

One reason for the record-breaking melt was that summer temperatures in the Arctic were 2-3 degrees C (5.4 degrees F) warmer than normal. Greenland's capital, Nuuk, experienced temperatures higher than any since 1873, when weather records started being been kept there. NASA data showed that 2010 was tied with 2005 as, globally, the warmest year on record.


Combined with reduced snowfall, the bare ice was more exposed to the sun, causing more of it to melt and faster. Other factors that influence ice melt are soot left on the surface, which absorbs heat, and the lakes that form on the surface, which also warm the ice because they are darker.

The data was gathered from satellites operated by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. By measuring the amount of microwave radiation emitted by the ice, snow and water of the ice sheets in Greenland, and comparing that with data gathered on the ground, the researchers were able to measure how much of the ice sheet is subject to melting.



Read more: Greenland Ice Sheets Melt At Record Rate In 2010 - International Business Times
 
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Ice sheets in Greenland are melting faster than ever before, according to new research.

The study, led by Marco Tedesco, director of the Cryospheric Processes laboratory at the City College of New York, showed that the melting index had broken the previous record, set in 2007.

Enlarge Close
(Photo: CCNY / Marco Tedesco)
The figure shows the standardized melting index anomaly for the period 1979 - 2010. The center line is the mean fro 1979-2009. Related Articles


"Melting in 2010 started exceptionally early at the end of April and ended quite late in mid- September," Tedesco said in a statement. "This past melt season was exceptional, with melting in some areas stretching up to 50 days longer than average."

A melting Greenland ice sheet contributes to sea level rise, which has occurred at a mean rate of about 1.8 millimeters per year over the past century. If the Greenland ice sheet were to melt completely it would raise sea levels by 7 meters. But that is unlikely to happen for several centuries at least.

One reason for the record-breaking melt was that summer temperatures in the Arctic were 2-3 degrees C (5.4 degrees F) warmer than normal. Greenland's capital, Nuuk, experienced temperatures higher than any since 1873, when weather records started being been kept there. NASA data showed that 2010 was tied with 2005 as, globally, the warmest year on record.


Combined with reduced snowfall, the bare ice was more exposed to the sun, causing more of it to melt and faster. Other factors that influence ice melt are soot left on the surface, which absorbs heat, and the lakes that form on the surface, which also warm the ice because they are darker.

The data was gathered from satellites operated by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. By measuring the amount of microwave radiation emitted by the ice, snow and water of the ice sheets in Greenland, and comparing that with data gathered on the ground, the researchers were able to measure how much of the ice sheet is subject to melting.



Read more: Greenland Ice Sheets Melt At Record Rate In 2010 - International Business Times

Are they farming there yet? They were about one thousand years ago. If it gets warmer than it was during the MWP, then I might think there is a problem. Until then, let's focus on solving real problems.
 
Ice sheets in Greenland are melting faster than ever before, according to new research.

The study, led by Marco Tedesco, director of the Cryospheric Processes laboratory at the City College of New York, showed that the melting index had broken the previous record, set in 2007.

Enlarge Close
(Photo: CCNY / Marco Tedesco)
The figure shows the standardized melting index anomaly for the period 1979 - 2010. The center line is the mean fro 1979-2009. Related Articles


"Melting in 2010 started exceptionally early at the end of April and ended quite late in mid- September," Tedesco said in a statement. "This past melt season was exceptional, with melting in some areas stretching up to 50 days longer than average."

A melting Greenland ice sheet contributes to sea level rise, which has occurred at a mean rate of about 1.8 millimeters per year over the past century. If the Greenland ice sheet were to melt completely it would raise sea levels by 7 meters. But that is unlikely to happen for several centuries at least.

One reason for the record-breaking melt was that summer temperatures in the Arctic were 2-3 degrees C (5.4 degrees F) warmer than normal. Greenland's capital, Nuuk, experienced temperatures higher than any since 1873, when weather records started being been kept there. NASA data showed that 2010 was tied with 2005 as, globally, the warmest year on record.


Combined with reduced snowfall, the bare ice was more exposed to the sun, causing more of it to melt and faster. Other factors that influence ice melt are soot left on the surface, which absorbs heat, and the lakes that form on the surface, which also warm the ice because they are darker.

The data was gathered from satellites operated by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. By measuring the amount of microwave radiation emitted by the ice, snow and water of the ice sheets in Greenland, and comparing that with data gathered on the ground, the researchers were able to measure how much of the ice sheet is subject to melting.



Read more: Greenland Ice Sheets Melt At Record Rate In 2010 - International Business Times

Are they farming there yet? They were about one thousand years ago. If it gets warmer than it was during the MWP, then I might think there is a problem. Until then, let's focus on solving real problems.

Want to know a funny coincidence? The entire Anasazi Indian civilization evaporated at exactly the same time as the ice pushed people off Greenland.

I think they drove too many SUVs.
 
Instead of showing us in a lab how a 200PPM increase in CO2 raises temperature, we get these knuckle dragging articles from OR

Yeah, that science is settled
 
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Yeah but the Antarctic ice is stupid expanding s0n.................so.................






:blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup:

Looks like you got a non-conformist in your ranks.


Hey Mr...........welcome aboard. This forum is a hoot bro..........we steamroll the k00ks on a daily basis and they come back..............daily!!!:D:D:D I love this place......its like going to Vegas knowing you're going home a big winner!!
 
Yeah but the Antarctic ice is stupid expanding s0n.................so.................






:blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup:

And we should believe a adolescent message board troll rather than NASA?


NASA - Is Antarctica Melting?

Antarctica Melting?01.12.10 The continent of Antarctica has been losing more than 100 cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice per year since 2002.
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There has been lots of talk lately about Antarctica and whether or not the continent's giant ice sheet is melting. One new paper 1, which states there’s less surface melting recently than in past years, has been cited as "proof" that there’s no global warming. Other evidence that the amount of sea ice around Antarctica seems to be increasing slightly 2-4 is being used in the same way. But both of these data points are misleading. Gravity data collected from space using NASA's Grace satellite show that Antarctica has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002. The latest data reveal that Antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate, too. How is it possible for surface melting to decrease, but for the continent to lose mass anyway? The answer boils down to the fact that ice can flow without melting.

The Antarctic ice sheet. East Antarctica is much higher in elevation than West Antarctica.
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Two-thirds of Antarctica is a high, cold desert. Known as East Antarctica, this section has an average altitude of about 2 kilometer (1.2 miles), higher than the American Colorado Plateau. There is a continent about the size of Australia underneath all this ice; the ice sheet sitting on top averages at a little over 2 kilometer (1.2 miles) thick. If all of this ice melted, it would raise global sea level by about 60 meter (197 feet). But little, if any, surface warming is occurring over East Antarctica. Radar and laser-based satellite data show a little mass loss at the edges of East Antarctica, which is being partly offset by accumulation of snow in the interior, although a very recent result from the NASA/German Aerospace Center's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (Grace) suggests that since 2006 there has been more ice loss from East Antarctica than previously thought 5. Overall, not much is going on in East Antarctica -- yet.
 
Yeah but the Antarctic ice is stupid expanding s0n.................so.................






:blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup::blowup:

And we should believe a adolescent message board troll rather than NASA?


NASA - Is Antarctica Melting?

Antarctica Melting?01.12.10 The continent of Antarctica has been losing more than 100 cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice per year since 2002.
Larger Image

There has been lots of talk lately about Antarctica and whether or not the continent's giant ice sheet is melting. One new paper 1, which states there’s less surface melting recently than in past years, has been cited as "proof" that there’s no global warming. Other evidence that the amount of sea ice around Antarctica seems to be increasing slightly 2-4 is being used in the same way. But both of these data points are misleading. Gravity data collected from space using NASA's Grace satellite show that Antarctica has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002. The latest data reveal that Antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate, too. How is it possible for surface melting to decrease, but for the continent to lose mass anyway? The answer boils down to the fact that ice can flow without melting.

The Antarctic ice sheet. East Antarctica is much higher in elevation than West Antarctica.
Larger Image

Two-thirds of Antarctica is a high, cold desert. Known as East Antarctica, this section has an average altitude of about 2 kilometer (1.2 miles), higher than the American Colorado Plateau. There is a continent about the size of Australia underneath all this ice; the ice sheet sitting on top averages at a little over 2 kilometer (1.2 miles) thick. If all of this ice melted, it would raise global sea level by about 60 meter (197 feet). But little, if any, surface warming is occurring over East Antarctica. Radar and laser-based satellite data show a little mass loss at the edges of East Antarctica, which is being partly offset by accumulation of snow in the interior, although a very recent result from the NASA/German Aerospace Center's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (Grace) suggests that since 2006 there has been more ice loss from East Antarctica than previously thought 5. Overall, not much is going on in East Antarctica -- yet.


LMAO........more date manipulation by the IPCC..........this time related to artic ice expansion............

World Climate Report » Another IPCC Error: Antarctic Sea Ice Increase Underestimated by 50%
 
Ice sheets in Greenland are melting faster than ever before, according to new research.

The study, led by Marco Tedesco, director of the Cryospheric Processes laboratory at the City College of New York, showed that the melting index had broken the previous record, set in 2007.

Enlarge Close
(Photo: CCNY / Marco Tedesco)
The figure shows the standardized melting index anomaly for the period 1979 - 2010. The center line is the mean fro 1979-2009. Related Articles


"Melting in 2010 started exceptionally early at the end of April and ended quite late in mid- September," Tedesco said in a statement. "This past melt season was exceptional, with melting in some areas stretching up to 50 days longer than average."

A melting Greenland ice sheet contributes to sea level rise, which has occurred at a mean rate of about 1.8 millimeters per year over the past century. If the Greenland ice sheet were to melt completely it would raise sea levels by 7 meters. But that is unlikely to happen for several centuries at least.

One reason for the record-breaking melt was that summer temperatures in the Arctic were 2-3 degrees C (5.4 degrees F) warmer than normal. Greenland's capital, Nuuk, experienced temperatures higher than any since 1873, when weather records started being been kept there. NASA data showed that 2010 was tied with 2005 as, globally, the warmest year on record.


Combined with reduced snowfall, the bare ice was more exposed to the sun, causing more of it to melt and faster. Other factors that influence ice melt are soot left on the surface, which absorbs heat, and the lakes that form on the surface, which also warm the ice because they are darker.

The data was gathered from satellites operated by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. By measuring the amount of microwave radiation emitted by the ice, snow and water of the ice sheets in Greenland, and comparing that with data gathered on the ground, the researchers were able to measure how much of the ice sheet is subject to melting.

Read more: Greenland Ice Sheets Melt At Record Rate In 2010 - International Business Times

So what?

What's the point?

Should we point fans toward Greenland to cool it down?
 
Yeah but the Antarctic ice is stupid expanding .................so.................

And we should believe a adolescent message board troll rather than NASA?

NASA - Is Antarctica Melting?

Antarctica Melting?01.12.10 The continent of Antarctica has been losing more than 100 cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice per year since 2002.
Larger Image

There has been lots of talk lately about Antarctica and whether or not the continent's giant ice sheet is melting. One new paper 1, which states there’s less surface melting recently than in past years, has been cited as "proof" that there’s no global warming. Other evidence that the amount of sea ice around Antarctica seems to be increasing slightly 2-4 is being used in the same way. But both of these data points are misleading. Gravity data collected from space using NASA's Grace satellite show that Antarctica has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002. The latest data reveal that Antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate, too. How is it possible for surface melting to decrease, but for the continent to lose mass anyway? The answer boils down to the fact that ice can flow without melting.

The Antarctic ice sheet. East Antarctica is much higher in elevation than West Antarctica.
Larger Image

Two-thirds of Antarctica is a high, cold desert. Known as East Antarctica, this section has an average altitude of about 2 kilometer (1.2 miles), higher than the American Colorado Plateau. There is a continent about the size of Australia underneath all this ice; the ice sheet sitting on top averages at a little over 2 kilometer (1.2 miles) thick. If all of this ice melted, it would raise global sea level by about 60 meter (197 feet). But little, if any, surface warming is occurring over East Antarctica. Radar and laser-based satellite data show a little mass loss at the edges of East Antarctica, which is being partly offset by accumulation of snow in the interior, although a very recent result from the NASA/German Aerospace Center's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (Grace) suggests that since 2006 there has been more ice loss from East Antarctica than previously thought 5. Overall, not much is going on in East Antarctica -- yet.


LMAO........more date manipulation by the IPCC..........this time related to artic ice expansion............

World Climate Report » Another IPCC Error: Antarctic Sea Ice Increase Underestimated by 50%

LOLOLOLOLOL....still terminally retarded I see, kooker.

This has been explained to you so many times that you must be either very retarded or else you're just a stupid troll who's getting paid to spread misinformation.

The point is that you're still sooooo idiotic that you can't grasp the difference between the small fringe of six foot thick sea ice that forms along portions of the Antarctic coastline (which is increasing a little) and the massive two miles thick ice sheets that cover the continent of Antarctica and contain over 98% of the ice there and which are shrinking and losing ice mass.

How many more times will you respond to evidence that the ice in the Arctic or Antarctica is melting by inserting your pointless and idiotic citations to some article on a denier cult blog about the growth of Antarctic sea ice? I suppose, if you're truly retarded, you'll never stop playing the fool that way.
 
meh..............

How many science dweebs did everybody know growing up? They'd kick everybody's ass, including mine, in the science lab..........felt all proud about it too. But nobody wanted to be like them..........the same people who invariably get all caught up in these gay "causes" just so they can matter in society on some level.

I could give a rats ass about the science data really.............because it doesnt matter anymore. It doesnt matter because despite the mounds of data,............so the fcukk what? No proof s0ns........just stating a fact. Nobody cares bout this stuff except the eccentric science assholes who have to find some kind of niche so they assume this gay cause. But nobody cares....................its seen now as a fcukking hobby.

As Ive said a million times in these pages..........if they cared, Cap and Trade would be a chip shot field goal. Instead....................its beyond fcukking dead.:fu::fu::blowup: Not even debatable for a moment. These dolts come on here every day to defend their religion............but in the bigger picture, it doesnt add up to dick.


So I'll take being the retarded guy on here and keep schooling the religion while educating the curious who come in here and find out for themselves the other side of the science that proves that the concept of "consensus" is total horseshit!!!:D:boobies::bye1:
 
LOL. Total horseshit and bullcrap is you, Kooky ol' idiot.



yeah.............it does kinda suck when you realized you are faced with stupendous levels of epic fAiL. Its quite evident in the angst narrative of your response. Rocks s0n.........you could never play poker.

Heres an enormously entertaining blog from a lefty climate site.................

Why did environmentalists pursue cap-and-trade and was it a doomed strategy? « Climate Progress






Not for nothing Rocks but we'll both be in a box a long, long, long time before any of your green shit becomes anything more than a popular slogan!!! At least I'll go in the ground knowing that my kids wont be having to pay stupid sIcK electric bills at $600/month and being taxed up the ying-yang to support 2.5 million jobless coal industry folks!!!! WHen you are a fcukking hermit living in the middle of a forest in the middle of nowhere in Scratchmyassville USA, its very convenient to be OK with fcukking over other people in the name of a hail mary pass type "cause".


'Ole kOOKY FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Ice sheets in Greenland are melting faster than ever before, according to new research.

The study, led by Marco Tedesco, director of the Cryospheric Processes laboratory at the City College of New York, showed that the melting index had broken the previous record, set in 2007.

Enlarge Close
(Photo: CCNY / Marco Tedesco)
The figure shows the standardized melting index anomaly for the period 1979 - 2010. The center line is the mean fro 1979-2009. Related Articles


"Melting in 2010 started exceptionally early at the end of April and ended quite late in mid- September," Tedesco said in a statement. "This past melt season was exceptional, with melting in some areas stretching up to 50 days longer than average."

A melting Greenland ice sheet contributes to sea level rise, which has occurred at a mean rate of about 1.8 millimeters per year over the past century. If the Greenland ice sheet were to melt completely it would raise sea levels by 7 meters. But that is unlikely to happen for several centuries at least.

One reason for the record-breaking melt was that summer temperatures in the Arctic were 2-3 degrees C (5.4 degrees F) warmer than normal. Greenland's capital, Nuuk, experienced temperatures higher than any since 1873, when weather records started being been kept there. NASA data showed that 2010 was tied with 2005 as, globally, the warmest year on record.


Combined with reduced snowfall, the bare ice was more exposed to the sun, causing more of it to melt and faster. Other factors that influence ice melt are soot left on the surface, which absorbs heat, and the lakes that form on the surface, which also warm the ice because they are darker.

The data was gathered from satellites operated by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. By measuring the amount of microwave radiation emitted by the ice, snow and water of the ice sheets in Greenland, and comparing that with data gathered on the ground, the researchers were able to measure how much of the ice sheet is subject to melting.



Read more: Greenland Ice Sheets Melt At Record Rate In 2010 - International Business Times

Are they farming there yet? They were about one thousand years ago. If it gets warmer than it was during the MWP, then I might think there is a problem. Until then, let's focus on solving real problems.

UH...., yeah!!!

Arctic Harvest: Global Warming a Boon for Greenland's Farmers - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
 

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