Germany Could Have Won WWII - We Should Thank God that Hitler was an Egomanic and Short-Sighted

[Delta4Embassy]

If Hitler would have done these few steps it is scary, but he would have won the war.
(1) Instead of Invading Russia, he should have concentrated on the Middle East. True he thought the Slavs were subhuman, true he though Russia would be conquered easily and true he desired fertile land for Aryan expansion, however, one of the main reasons he invaded the USSR was for oil. If he concentrated on the Middle East he would have gotten all the oil he wanted at a much easier cost.
(2) Used the Middle East oil to keep Japan from attacking Pearl Harbor/US. The isolation stance in the US was strong enough to keep the US out of the war. Pearl Harbor was the tipping point. If Germany provided Japan with oil, Japan wouldn't have needed the Philippines in the short-term and Germany could have prevented them from attacking the US.
(3) Cozy up with the US. There were Neville Chamberlains in US also. If Hitler would have provided some lip-service propaganda to the US, then the sheeple would have prevented the military built up and Hitler wouldn't have had to worry about the US.
(4) Kept the alliance with the USSR in the short-term. Convince Russia to help the invasion of the UK, for allowing USSR to take Sweden and Finland. Stalin didn't want to take on Germany and would have jumped at it. A Russian and German invasion of the UK wouldn't have been a cake walk, but would have be knocked the UK out of the war.
(5) Develop the Bomb and the Jet. The Manhattan Project wouldn't have commenced with the US not in the war and even with the Manhattan project, the Germans were working hard to develop it. With no Eastern Front, UK out of the picture and the US not in the war, then more German resources could have gone to producing the bomb and the jet airplane. Once Germany had the bomb, they would have been the sole nuclear power. They could have bombed Moscow, Stalingrad, New York and LA simultaneously. If that happened, the USSR and the US would have surrendered before the invasion began. They would have commanded the skies with their superior jet planes.

The Nazi would have dominated Europe, the Middle East and North America. It is doubtful that the sole nuclear power and the will to use them would have stopped there. Japan would probably be bombed next. The final solution would be expanded to included Africans, Hispanics, Slavs, Asian Indians and probably Asians in general. As the sole nuclear and military power, could the NAZIs have accomplished it? I am glad we will never know.

Germany made the same mistake the US did later in Vietnam - it let military decisions be made by politicians. Naturally then, it lost.

 

[longknife]

Adolf Hitler artworks fetch £286,000 at auction in Nuremberg

What a damned shame he couldn't make a living as an artist. See 2 more @ Adolf Hitler artworks fetch 286 000 at auction in Nuremberg - BBC News

 

[Sunni Man]

Hitler is just misunderstood. .....

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Adolf Hitler artworks fetch £286,000 at auction in Nuremberg

What a damned shame he couldn't make a living as an artist. See 2 more @ Adolf Hitler artworks fetch 286 000 at auction in Nuremberg - BBC News

Documentary about his artwork said he had difficult drawing people and was thus rejected by some art school early on. Good landscapes and buildings though.

Not a shame in the big picture. Everythign in the past no matter how unfortunate or horrific shapes the present. So far, we haven't had a nuclear war. Rewrite major hisotircal events like WWII and the holocaust and who can say how things would have played out.

 

[rightwinger]

If Hitler had held off invading the USSR for ten years while he solidified his hold on Western Europe and convinced Japan not to bring the US into the war, he very well could have held onto Europe

 

[Bleipriester]

With over 400 submarines at the same time, the navy was also not a joke, irosie. Germany had also anti ship missiles that are controlled with a monitor and a joystick.
List of German guided weapons of World War II - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You need not INFORM me of those realities, captain blei----and you need
not inform of the fact that every Baathist pig in the world was cheering and praying for the victory----as well as so many of your other heros----like the Iranian Nazi pigs. I am also well aware of the spiritual lift you and yours obtain by pondering on the glory of a FUTURE victory of your filth. The very first Shiite Nazi pig I knew----about 47 years ago--- virtually licked his lips when he told me----SOMEDAY WE'LL DRINK THEIR BLOOD . I was too young to take that fantasy as a serious issue ---or even a fantasy----more like weird childish comment that was supposed
to impress me despite the fact that the man was a surgeon. Sometime words spoken long ago take on meaning

Did you know that the production of a Tiger Tank took ten months?

I had no idea-----but your hero had Heisenberg-----so if he knew where it
was -----he had no idea how fast it was
going

The Nuremberg laws stated that Jews may not employ chars under 40. What do you think about that?

I am not sure what a "char" is-----is it a person who does washing and cleaning? -----I know the word "charwoman" The Nuremburg laws came out the same system from which
the laws of DHIMMIA were derived. ---the origin goes way back under the general category "how to control te conquered" -----but were put together most expertly by the emperor of the first Reich---Constantine. In the dhimmia system-----which would actually come into law in the Baathist system more or less-------neither a Christian nor a jew would be allowed to hire a muslim to wash clothes

what does all this have to do with Heisenberg's uncertainty principle?

If i believe you, the "Baathist system" is every other system. Sounds funny? Then think about it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If Hitler would have done these few steps it is scary, but he would have won the war.
(1) Instead of Invading Russia, he should have concentrated on the Middle East. True he thought the Slavs were subhuman, true he though Russia would be conquered easily and true he desired fertile land for Aryan expansion, however, one of the main reasons he invaded the USSR was for oil. If he concentrated on the Middle East he would have gotten all the oil he wanted at a much easier cost.
(2) Used the Middle East oil to keep Japan from attacking Pearl Harbor/US. The isolation stance in the US was strong enough to keep the US out of the war. Pearl Harbor was the tipping point. If Germany provided Japan with oil, Japan wouldn't have needed the Philippines in the short-term and Germany could have prevented them from attacking the US.
(3) Cozy up with the US. There were Neville Chamberlains in US also. If Hitler would have provided some lip-service propaganda to the US, then the sheeple would have prevented the military built up and Hitler wouldn't have had to worry about the US.
(4) Kept the alliance with the USSR in the short-term. Convince Russia to help the invasion of the UK, for allowing USSR to take Sweden and Finland. Stalin didn't want to take on Germany and would have jumped at it. A Russian and German invasion of the UK wouldn't have been a cake walk, but would have be knocked the UK out of the war.
(5) Develop the Bomb and the Jet. The Manhattan Project wouldn't have commenced with the US not in the war and even with the Manhattan project, the Germans were working hard to develop it. With no Eastern Front, UK out of the picture and the US not in the war, then more German resources could have gone to producing the bomb and the jet airplane. Once Germany had the bomb, they would have been the sole nuclear power. They could have bombed Moscow, Stalingrad, New York and LA simultaneously. If that happened, the USSR and the US would have surrendered before the invasion began. They would have commanded the skies with their superior jet planes.

The Nazi would have dominated Europe, the Middle East and North America. It is doubtful that the sole nuclear power and the will to use them would have stopped there. Japan would probably be bombed next. The final solution would be expanded to included Africans, Hispanics, Slavs, Asian Indians and probably Asians in general. As the sole nuclear and military power, could the NAZIs have accomplished it? I am glad we will never know.

Sounds like the plot for a Castle Wolfenstein game....

 

[Picaro]

Hitler had little choice but war with Stalin. Stalin didn't want half of Poland because he liked their cooking, and he had his own plans for expansion. Hitler's economy tanked in '38, and it was either start invading and looting his neighbors or weaken and be overrun by Stalin within 3 or 4 years.

As for the U.S., all military decisions are made by politicians, which is why the COC is the President, so this comment ...

- it let military decisions be made by politicians.

... is rather ignorant.

As for Viet Nam, there were no 'good' options, they were all bad, but in the end we did far better than the Soviets, both for ourselves and our SEATO allies; no Soviet naval base, the Soviets bankrupted and having to retreat back from the Khrushchev Doctrine, losing their influence in the ME and Africa, and having to beg the West for food and fuel. Strategically it was a win for us, and we left because there was no reason for us to be there any more after the Nixon China diplomacy coup.

 

[Picaro]

I've never understood why the Nazis hated the Slavs so much, seeing as they had no problem with Italians and Spaniards who, for the most part, have a lot in common with Slavs, ethnically speaking.

they were in the way, and sitting on what to Hitler was some prime real estate. If the Nazis hadn't been so arrogant and viciously abusive in their invasions they would have fared a little better, at least not causing such a groundswell of partisan activity in their rear. They conducted an entirely different kind of war in the East than they did in the West. It was puzzling, actually, why there was such a contrast. in their treatments of the conquered. Everybody hated the Russians; they could have built almost two Army Groups just from the Slav territories they took the first year.

 

[Picaro]

While Western historians want to claim that the allies ran over Hitler and defeated him; the truth is......Hitler had more to do with defeating Germany than the allies did.

Well, that's the case on any side in every battle and war.

 

[Syriusly]

Rather than thanking God for Hitler being an egomaniac- shouldn't we ask why God let Hitler cause the deaths of so many?

 

[Stan Fan]

German troops might have been the best trained in the world at the time and Germany developed a jet powered plane late in the war and a sputtering missile that could travel a couple of hundred miles but the German navy was a joke and there just wasn't enough German troops to conquer France much less than the entire world. When Allied air power penetrated the German air space and knocked out the German industrial centers the war was won. If Hitler suddenly became rational he would have realized that the 3rd Reich was doomed and would have sued for peace.

This is not correct. The Me 262 was ready to go into series production in 1943 but there were concerns about the output of Bf (Me) 109 fighters that would shrink as a consequence of a large scale Me 262 production. Hitler stated that the war would be won also with conventional planes and the decision was made. When the Me 262 finally entered series production in 1944, it was not a very large scale production (compared with WWII dimensions, 1433 were built) and Hitler sabotaged the plane once again when he ordered to rebuild it to make it a "Blitzbomber" what resulted in a smaller fuel tank and in the destruction of half the planes on the ground by Allies´ air forces. Hitler even prohibited to talk of the Me 262 as a fighter.
The huge damage the Allies´ bombers did to the industry could not prevent the Germans from making more and more weapons. In 1944, Germany produced more arms than in all previous war years together and the production ran at peak for most kinds of weapons like tanks and planes in mostly subterranean facilities until the end of the war.

cheer up captain blei------your hero, adolf,
lives on in the heart of every BAATHIST
in the world

With over 400 submarines at the same time, the navy was also not a joke, irosie. Germany had also anti ship missiles that are controlled with a monitor and a joystick.
List of German guided weapons of World War II - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You need not INFORM me of those realities, captain blei----and you need
not inform of the fact that every Baathist pig in the world was cheering and praying for the victory----as well as so many of your other heros----like the Iranian Nazi pigs. I am also well aware of the spiritual lift you and yours obtain by pondering on the glory of a FUTURE victory of your filth. The very first Shiite Nazi pig I knew----about 47 years ago--- virtually licked his lips when he told me----SOMEDAY WE'LL DRINK THEIR BLOOD . I was too young to take that fantasy as a serious issue ---or even a fantasy----more like weird childish comment that was supposed
to impress me despite the fact that the man was a surgeon. Sometime words spoken long ago take on meaning

Did you know that the production of a Tiger Tank took ten months?

Yes, and once they got into the field against the British and American's, the darn thing was almost unstoppable. It absolutely rolled over our American made Sherman tanks like a Humvee over a 1961 Ford Falcon. Amazing, destructive machine. And the poster who wrote that German military production continued to rise throughout the war, despite day and night continuous bombing by the Allied forces of her factories and cities, is correct. As a jet fighter, the ME-262 would have been a cinch to knock our B-17 Flying Fortresses out of the air easily. American Thunderbolt propeller fighter's couldn't keep up with the thing - although the Tuskegee Airman's wing actually shot down two of them in combat in the sky. That all African-American fighter unit never lost a bomber to German fighter's throughout the entire war while doing escort duty. Of course, they lost a lot of fighter's themselves protecting the bombers, and many got shot down by German flak guns. The German navy wasn't a match for the British navy in surface ships, ever, but their U-Boat's were capable of knocking out England, but Hitler didn't particularly believe in them. The campaign against Nazi U-Boat's was the one thing that scared Churchill during World War II, because he knew they were capable of severing the sea lanes between America and its military-industrial products, making it to England and the USSR to keep both from suing for peace. In short, and in hindsight, there were a lot of things Hitler could have done prior to declaring war in 1941 on the USSR and America, but, fortunately, he didn't, his course had been set in his mind for decades................

 

[Stan Fan]

If Hitler had held off invading the USSR for ten years while he solidified his hold on Western Europe and convinced Japan not to bring the US into the war, he very well could have held onto Europe

So could Napoleon in the 1800's as France dominated the continent of Europe, while England controlled the seas.
Hitler was obsessed with the specter of Nazi troops retreating from the USSR beaten and freezing, as Napoleon's were, but he made the same mistake - sending the German forces in a three pronged attack against the Soviets in the summer, and not preparing for the brutal winter when Russia refused to capitulate. That vision of the French Army's long, slow, tortuous retreat from Russia haunted Hitler, despite the fact it was a very narrow road the French traveled. In the 1940's there were much better avenues for troops to negotiate road wise, including Germany's Autobahn. The vision of the French retreat was the main reason Hitler issued his "stand or die" order to the Eastern front army...........

 

[Stan Fan]

Rather than thanking God for Hitler being an egomaniac- shouldn't we ask why God let Hitler cause the deaths of so many?

Man's cruelty to man is one of the constant, recurring themes of history.
History doesn't repeat itself, mankind, being mankind, repeats the same errors.
War; Religion; Science; Discovery; Hope; Enlightenment; Pestilence; Disease and Natural Disaster encompass human history.

i.e. - America fought in Korea in the early 1950's, less than 6-years after the end of World War II. We defeated the North Korean's, and fought the Communist Chinese million man army to a draw.

Less than six years after Korea ended, we were back involved in another land war on the Asian continent in Vietnam, with about the same outcome. We lost 57,000 men in the Korean War, and 58,000 dead in the Vietnam War. Hopefully, we won't be involved in a third Iraq War, and certainly will never get involved in "boots-on-the-ground" on the Asian continent again. Any war fought there by America will be done with our Air Force and Navy.

Gawd has nothing to do with any of it, but if one believes in such a supreme being - it would have to be neutral. All wars and cruelty are committed by all humans, who exercise free will..............

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The USSR and Germany were bound to cross swords, it was only a matter of time and who would strike first. At the start of Barbarossa, the USSR had a massive collection of force arrayed along the border. It was quickly gobble up by the Blitz, but it was there for a reason

 

[irosie91]

This is not correct. The Me 262 was ready to go into series production in 1943 but there were concerns about the output of Bf (Me) 109 fighters that would shrink as a consequence of a large scale Me 262 production. Hitler stated that the war would be won also with conventional planes and the decision was made. When the Me 262 finally entered series production in 1944, it was not a very large scale production (compared with WWII dimensions, 1433 were built) and Hitler sabotaged the plane once again when he ordered to rebuild it to make it a "Blitzbomber" what resulted in a smaller fuel tank and in the destruction of half the planes on the ground by Allies´ air forces. Hitler even prohibited to talk of the Me 262 as a fighter.
The huge damage the Allies´ bombers did to the industry could not prevent the Germans from making more and more weapons. In 1944, Germany produced more arms than in all previous war years together and the production ran at peak for most kinds of weapons like tanks and planes in mostly subterranean facilities until the end of the war.

cheer up captain blei------your hero, adolf,
lives on in the heart of every BAATHIST
in the world

With over 400 submarines at the same time, the navy was also not a joke, irosie. Germany had also anti ship missiles that are controlled with a monitor and a joystick.
List of German guided weapons of World War II - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You need not INFORM me of those realities, captain blei----and you need
not inform of the fact that every Baathist pig in the world was cheering and praying for the victory----as well as so many of your other heros----like the Iranian Nazi pigs. I am also well aware of the spiritual lift you and yours obtain by pondering on the glory of a FUTURE victory of your filth. The very first Shiite Nazi pig I knew----about 47 years ago--- virtually licked his lips when he told me----SOMEDAY WE'LL DRINK THEIR BLOOD . I was too young to take that fantasy as a serious issue ---or even a fantasy----more like weird childish comment that was supposed
to impress me despite the fact that the man was a surgeon. Sometime words spoken long ago take on meaning

Did you know that the production of a Tiger Tank took ten months?

Yes, and once they got into the field against the British and American's, the darn thing was almost unstoppable. It absolutely rolled over our American made Sherman tanks like a Humvee over a 1961 Ford Falcon. Amazing, destructive machine. And the poster who wrote that German military production continued to rise throughout the war, despite day and night continuous bombing by the Allied forces of her factories and cities, is correct. As a jet fighter, the ME-262 would have been a cinch to knock our B-17 Flying Fortresses out of the air easily. American Thunderbolt propeller fighter's couldn't keep up with the thing - although the Tuskegee Airman's wing actually shot down two of them in combat in the sky. That all African-American fighter unit never lost a bomber to German fighter's throughout the entire war while doing escort duty. Of course, they lost a lot of fighter's themselves protecting the bombers, and many got shot down by German flak guns. The German navy wasn't a match for the British navy in surface ships, ever, but their U-Boat's were capable of knocking out England, but Hitler didn't particularly believe in them. The campaign against Nazi U-Boat's was the one thing that scared Churchill during World War II, because he knew they were capable of severing the sea lanes between America and its military-industrial products, making it to England and the USSR to keep both from suing for peace. In short, and in hindsight, there were a lot of things Hitler could have done prior to declaring war in 1941 on the USSR and America, but, fortunately, he didn't, his course had been set in his mind for decades................

My father was floating in the north atlantic----back then ----he SINGLE HANDEDLY defeated ------fritz of the sea------really----it was him-----my dad---,,,,,,my dad did it ---really ------------------------------

 

[GHook93]

The USSR and Germany were bound to cross swords, it was only a matter of time and who would strike first. At the start of Barbarossa, the USSR had a massive collection of force arrayed along the border. It was quickly gobble up by the Blitz, but it was there for a reason

That is inaccurate. Stalin's government was in disarray, due to the massive paranoid purges by Stalin. He was deathly afraid of war with Germany and the USSR was caught off guard by the NAZI invasion.

 

[Octoldit]

Communism is everywhere now and most are too brainwashed by the Zionist media to know it. Too ignorant is see that the so-called Jews reduced Germany to a pitiful status much the same way that the United States been robbed in every way imaginable.

Germany was the victim just as Russia was the victim of the communist Jews. As long as they keep the gullible focused on Germany they don't recognize who the communist are, and all that they are doing to enslave America.

No shortage of evidence exist.

It's not fascism that a threat to the entire civilized world it's "communism". Wake-up!

Stalin the Jew is almost never talked about. That beast makes Hitler look like a priest.



LINK: The Zionist FED are enemies pushing global communism. Prophecy of Noah

 

[jon_berzerk]

plus he was a doper

 

[Stan Fan]

The USSR and Germany were bound to cross swords, it was only a matter of time and who would strike first. At the start of Barbarossa, the USSR had a massive collection of force arrayed along the border. It was quickly gobble up by the Blitz, but it was there for a reason

That is inaccurate. Stalin's government was in disarray, due to the massive paranoid purges by Stalin. He was deathly afraid of war with Germany and the USSR was caught off guard by the NAZI invasion.

Correct. Gemany's General Staff and officers watched in amazement as the last Soviet supply train left the USSR into Poland, bound for Germany, loaded with foodstuffs, and military equipment, the evening before the German Army launched World War II by attacking Poland. To the very end, with the Ribbentrop Pact giving half of Poland to Stalin, a secret pact unknown to the German Staff, to prevent a German - USSR war, he believed HItler's promises that the pact would be honored. It was for a time. When the German Army marched into Poland from the west, the Soviet Army buildup on her Eastern border, marched in from the East. The German Army had their marching orders 10-days before they launched the blitz of Poland with their armor, infantry and Skuka fighter's. As Germany was running over Poland, her General Staff was informed the Russia Army was on the march - and one of the German General's responded "Against Who?" Normal Soviet troop concentrations along her border, and their half of Poland were large, but it was an occupation army. When Hitler struck in 1941, they first engaged the USSR in Poland, stepping off about 300-miles farther back than they would have if the Ribbentrop Pact hadn't allowed the Russians to march and occupy half of Poland without having to fire a shot. German Army group center, or the massive three prong attack against the Soviet Union in the summer of 1941 got within sight of Moscow's Kremlin Towers - Stalin and the USSR government evacuated inland, later to kill off anybody who wasn't necessary to the war effort, who would have known of that retreat. Russian roads were terrible in 1941, but the German armor rolled onward, and if the Ribbentrop Pact had permitted her to step off from Poland's Eastern border, instead of halfway into that country, they would have over run Moscow, and very probably ended the war quickly. Russian troops were in terrible disarray and caught off guard by the initial German push, Hitler had a short window to win that fight. The Soviets regrouped deep inside Russia, prepared their army and industry, aided by American Lend Lease supplies which put that army on wheels, and counter attacked, aided by the Russian winter. Germany launched their attack with no provision for a long fight into the brutal Russian winter snows, which along with the Leningrad standoff and the Stalingrad fight, stopped German momentum, and swung the balance in the USSR's favor.........