Georgia has discovered the cure for poverty!

[danielpalos]

No, socialism has led to $20 trillion in debt.

Debt is preferable to a Great Depression. That is why we need to Tax the One Percent until our Debt is gone; then they can have, zero income tax on Personal incomes.

 

[cnelsen]

It's called making people work, train, or volunteer while on food stamps:

Thousands Cured Of Poverty After Georgia Introduces Work-For-Food-Stamp Requirement – MILO NEWS

Thousands of people have been miraculously cured of poverty in Georgia following the state’s implementation of a requirement that all those receiving stamps must either be working, training for a job, or volunteering for a non-profit or charity.

According to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “Georgia has been rolling out work requirements for food stamp recipients for over a year.”

The outlet states that the latest rollout saw the requirements reach 21 counties, affecting roughly 12,000 able-bodied people without children.

Those people were given until April 1 to fulfil the aforementioned requirement. But when that date rolled around, The Journal-Constitution, citing state figures, reports that more than half of the food stamp recipients were dropped from the program.

“Essentially, the number of recipients spiraled down from 11,779 to 4,528, or a drop of 62 percent,” the outlet states.

According to The Journal-Constitution Georgian officials are looking at expanding the food stamp requirements to all 159 counties in the state by 2019.

“The greater good is people being employed, being productive, and contributing to the state,” said Bobby Cagle, head of Georgia’s Division of Family and Children Services, according to the outlet...

I've long said that any long-term people on welfare should be required to work in the fields or volunteer 20 hours per week for a government or non-profit agency unless they have a serious and medically-documented condition that precludes them from doing so. We should roll this program out nationwide.

This is great!

Now all that Georgia needs to do is start a "Pay 'em enough that they don't need food stamps" program!

That's not the responsibility of the state, that's the responsibility of the individual. If you don't make enough money, YOU do something about it. Don't expect government to force people to pay you more than your labor is worth.

If people got paid what their labor was actually worth, there wouldn't be any wealthy people.

"paid what their labor was actually worth"

You mean, more like it was in the fifties and sixties when we had a huge and stable middle class that was a productive marvel and the envy of the world? When ALL Americans were unfathomably wealthy by world standards? In other words, before the effects of the Jewish victory, the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, kicked in?

 

[cnelsen]

That's not the responsibility of the state, that's the responsibility of the individual. If you don't make enough money, YOU do something about it. Don't expect government to force people to pay you more than your labor is worth.

If people got paid what their labor was actually worth, there wouldn't be any wealthy people.

And if there were no wealthy people, there would be nobody TO pay you.


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Wrong! If wealth were distributed fairly, there would be hundreds of millions more investors and millions more jobs.

Imagine a world where everyone was moderately wealthy, not just a few enormously wealthy.

That was what was happening in America back in the 1950s, 1960s & 1970s. Then Reagan started the whole supply side crap and the country has gone to shit since then.

Fucking idiot. Wealth is not distributed, it is earned. Fucking liberals. Head on down to the latest liberal utopian failed state (Venezuela) and see for yourself how well your failed ideas play out in the real world. These morons are incapable of learning from history. Just painfully stupid.

Venezuela is not a 'lberal' state, it's a communist state. Learn the difference.

The United States in the 1950s-1970s was a liberal state.

"The United States in the 1950s-1970s was a liberal state."

What changed?

 

[JBond]

No, socialism has led to $20 trillion in debt.

Debt is preferable to a Great Depression. That is why we need to Tax the One Percent until our Debt is gone; then they can have, zero income tax on Personal incomes.

Instead of punishing small business owners let's take a look at the .01%.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The only cure for low IQ "people of color" poverty is mandatory sterilization. There are exceptions and they should be allowed to have drunk sex.

Why dont you take this racist horse shit back to Storm Front, jack ass?

 

[JimBowie1958]

No whites have been the most racist. When you make laws and policy on purpose to deny rights of people based on color, then talk about people of color as you have done, you are making a false equivalence.

Whites have invented race and racism, so of course we have been.

But that is what this latest 50 years has been all about; correcting wrongs and having a society based on equality before the law, and we whites have things set up now so that we are getting totally fucked legally BY LAW.

So no, we are not NOW the most racist, dude.

 

[Skull Pilot]

End our War on Drugs to pay for welfare!

give the money back to the people that have been paying for it

why repeat historical mistakes. 1929 already happened.

it's never a mistake to let working people keep more of their own money

but you wouldn't know anything about working

Capitalism died in 1929; socialism has been bailing out capitalism, ever since.

and you still don't know anything about working for a living

 

[cnelsen]

It's called making people work, train, or volunteer while on food stamps:

Thousands Cured Of Poverty After Georgia Introduces Work-For-Food-Stamp Requirement – MILO NEWS

Thousands of people have been miraculously cured of poverty in Georgia following the state’s implementation of a requirement that all those receiving stamps must either be working, training for a job, or volunteering for a non-profit or charity.

According to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “Georgia has been rolling out work requirements for food stamp recipients for over a year.”

The outlet states that the latest rollout saw the requirements reach 21 counties, affecting roughly 12,000 able-bodied people without children.

Those people were given until April 1 to fulfil the aforementioned requirement. But when that date rolled around, The Journal-Constitution, citing state figures, reports that more than half of the food stamp recipients were dropped from the program.

“Essentially, the number of recipients spiraled down from 11,779 to 4,528, or a drop of 62 percent,” the outlet states.

According to The Journal-Constitution Georgian officials are looking at expanding the food stamp requirements to all 159 counties in the state by 2019.

“The greater good is people being employed, being productive, and contributing to the state,” said Bobby Cagle, head of Georgia’s Division of Family and Children Services, according to the outlet...

I've long said that any long-term people on welfare should be required to work in the fields or volunteer 20 hours per week for a government or non-profit agency unless they have a serious and medically-documented condition that precludes them from doing so. We should roll this program out nationwide.

Republicans have just about ruined Georgia's agriculture.

Crops Rot While Trump-Led Immigration Backlash Idles Farm Work

The death of meaningful U.S. immigration reform, done in by Washington partisanship and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s incendiary comments on foreigners, is leaving crops withering in the field and the farm lobby with nowhere to turn as a labor shortage intensifies.

If Trump Builds the Wall, What Will Happen to our Food System? - Modern Farmer

According to the Farm Bureau report, “closing the border” (i.e. building a wall) would greatly exacerbate existing farm labor shortages found in many parts of the country, resulting in crops left to rot in the fields and a vast reduction in agricultural productivity—which could put some farmers out of business.

“Many migrants who begin their careers as farm laborers move onto other sectors of the economy [with] less demanding positions after several years,” the authors noted. “This progression leads to farmers often being the first to bare the negative economic impacts of decreased border crossings and migrant labor shortages.”

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As always, Republicans take a country that if finally starting to the recover from the last GOP administration and drag it back down. They can't help themselves. That's just who they are.

You link to Bloomberg for economic analysis?!? The annual "crops-rotting-in-the-fields" bogeyman is pure bullshit. It's a scare tactic that relies on the economic absurdity that there exist such things as "labor shortages". Claiming there is a labor shortage in America is the same thing as saying there aren't enough Americans. It is self-evidently false and you shouldn't buy it.

 

[Vandalshandle]

It's called making people work, train, or volunteer while on food stamps:

Thousands Cured Of Poverty After Georgia Introduces Work-For-Food-Stamp Requirement – MILO NEWS

Thousands of people have been miraculously cured of poverty in Georgia following the state’s implementation of a requirement that all those receiving stamps must either be working, training for a job, or volunteering for a non-profit or charity.

According to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “Georgia has been rolling out work requirements for food stamp recipients for over a year.”

The outlet states that the latest rollout saw the requirements reach 21 counties, affecting roughly 12,000 able-bodied people without children.

Those people were given until April 1 to fulfil the aforementioned requirement. But when that date rolled around, The Journal-Constitution, citing state figures, reports that more than half of the food stamp recipients were dropped from the program.

“Essentially, the number of recipients spiraled down from 11,779 to 4,528, or a drop of 62 percent,” the outlet states.

According to The Journal-Constitution Georgian officials are looking at expanding the food stamp requirements to all 159 counties in the state by 2019.

“The greater good is people being employed, being productive, and contributing to the state,” said Bobby Cagle, head of Georgia’s Division of Family and Children Services, according to the outlet...

I've long said that any long-term people on welfare should be required to work in the fields or volunteer 20 hours per week for a government or non-profit agency unless they have a serious and medically-documented condition that precludes them from doing so. We should roll this program out nationwide.

This is great!

Now all that Georgia needs to do is start a "Pay 'em enough that they don't need food stamps" program!

That's not the responsibility of the state, that's the responsibility of the individual. If you don't make enough money, YOU do something about it. Don't expect government to force people to pay you more than your labor is worth.

If people got paid what their labor was actually worth, there wouldn't be any wealthy people.

"paid what their labor was actually worth"

You mean, more like it was in the fifties and sixties when we had a huge and stable middle class that was a productive marvel and the envy of the world? When ALL Americans were unfathomably wealthy by world standards? In other words, before the effects of the Jewish victory, the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, kicked in?

HITLER WAS RIGHT! It is all a Jewish plot!!!!!!!!

 

[cnelsen]

It's called making people work, train, or volunteer while on food stamps:

Thousands Cured Of Poverty After Georgia Introduces Work-For-Food-Stamp Requirement – MILO NEWS

Thousands of people have been miraculously cured of poverty in Georgia following the state’s implementation of a requirement that all those receiving stamps must either be working, training for a job, or volunteering for a non-profit or charity.

According to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “Georgia has been rolling out work requirements for food stamp recipients for over a year.”

The outlet states that the latest rollout saw the requirements reach 21 counties, affecting roughly 12,000 able-bodied people without children.

Those people were given until April 1 to fulfil the aforementioned requirement. But when that date rolled around, The Journal-Constitution, citing state figures, reports that more than half of the food stamp recipients were dropped from the program.

“Essentially, the number of recipients spiraled down from 11,779 to 4,528, or a drop of 62 percent,” the outlet states.

According to The Journal-Constitution Georgian officials are looking at expanding the food stamp requirements to all 159 counties in the state by 2019.

“The greater good is people being employed, being productive, and contributing to the state,” said Bobby Cagle, head of Georgia’s Division of Family and Children Services, according to the outlet...

I've long said that any long-term people on welfare should be required to work in the fields or volunteer 20 hours per week for a government or non-profit agency unless they have a serious and medically-documented condition that precludes them from doing so. We should roll this program out nationwide.

Gingrich offered this solution:

Newt refers to a proposal by Peter Ferrara, who was in the White House Office of Policy Development under President Ronald Reagan. The proposal goes like this:

Block grants would still be provided to the states, and states would guarantee a day’s work assignment (paying the minimum wage) to everyone who reports to their local welfare office before 9:00 a.m.

According to Newt, “The welfare office would provide free daycare for participants’ small children”, and the children would “receive medical care and treatment when necessary” (page 190).

Moreover, those working a certain number of hours would receive a Medicaid voucher for private health insurance as well as housing assistance so they could purchase a home. They would also receive the earned-income tax credit. Newt also affirms that the disabled would be trained for some line of work.

Based on minimum wage of $7.25, or $15,000 for a full year’s work, plus EITC, which is $3,000 with one child, and $5,000 with two, plus $1,000 per child tax credit. This plus the in-kind transfers of child care and health care, are an adequate safety net. “What I like about this proposal is that it would give welfare recipients work experience and job skills rather than setting welfare against work.” Newt Gingrich’s To Save America 7: Welfare Reform, Health Care

1. The system would also end all incentives for having children outside of marriage, as a parent would have to work to support a child.

Let's say we have a Mom and two kids. So Gross income would be a whopping $21000/yr less FICA of $1125 we have a take home pay of $19,875 or $1656/mo. The average cost of 1 bedroom apartment in largest 200 cities in the US is $1,025 leaving $631 a month or $147/week to live on. Now if Mom is really smart, extremely frugal, she just might be able to buy groceries and pay utilities, walk miles to works instead of paying $4/day to ride the bus, convince the teachers to provide schools supplies and miscellaneous expense for the kids, never buy new clothes for the family, never go to a dentist, a barbershop or a hair salon, never drink, never smoke, never pay credit card interest, and certainly not squander money on toys for the kids, Christmas, birthdays, entertainment, etc..

The problem is most people that can't seem to find a job and are living on welfare are not that smart. Most have vices. They drink, smoke, or do drugs and certainly aren't very frugal. They throw their money away on stuff for the kids, don't know how to really budget, run out of money, and then borrow at a high interest rates.

So while this plan fits the 1% of those on government subsidies, what happens to the other 99%?

The answer is they get a roommate or share a house
If you cannot afford to live on your own by yourself then you find another party to share with you and reducethe expenses
You Don't Demand that the rest of us pay for you so that you can have a place all to yourself. That solitude is a result of achievement and not an entitlement

And they could live in a friends garage, move in with elderly parents, or maybe just live under a bridge, all just great options for the kids. Most families living on government subsidies, are already living in rather cramped surrounding.

The only cure for low IQ "people of color" poverty is mandatory sterilization. There are exceptions and they should be allowed to have drunk sex.

Move them to Chicago. Chances are another black will gun them down within a few months.

Why don't we gun you down . You are nothing but a hateful pig.

For every lovely on the dole,
Mandatory birth control.

 

[cnelsen]

It's called making people work, train, or volunteer while on food stamps:

Thousands Cured Of Poverty After Georgia Introduces Work-For-Food-Stamp Requirement – MILO NEWS

Thousands of people have been miraculously cured of poverty in Georgia following the state’s implementation of a requirement that all those receiving stamps must either be working, training for a job, or volunteering for a non-profit or charity.

According to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “Georgia has been rolling out work requirements for food stamp recipients for over a year.”

The outlet states that the latest rollout saw the requirements reach 21 counties, affecting roughly 12,000 able-bodied people without children.

Those people were given until April 1 to fulfil the aforementioned requirement. But when that date rolled around, The Journal-Constitution, citing state figures, reports that more than half of the food stamp recipients were dropped from the program.

“Essentially, the number of recipients spiraled down from 11,779 to 4,528, or a drop of 62 percent,” the outlet states.

According to The Journal-Constitution Georgian officials are looking at expanding the food stamp requirements to all 159 counties in the state by 2019.

“The greater good is people being employed, being productive, and contributing to the state,” said Bobby Cagle, head of Georgia’s Division of Family and Children Services, according to the outlet...

I've long said that any long-term people on welfare should be required to work in the fields or volunteer 20 hours per week for a government or non-profit agency unless they have a serious and medically-documented condition that precludes them from doing so. We should roll this program out nationwide.

This is great!

Now all that Georgia needs to do is start a "Pay 'em enough that they don't need food stamps" program!

That's not the responsibility of the state, that's the responsibility of the individual. If you don't make enough money, YOU do something about it. Don't expect government to force people to pay you more than your labor is worth.

If people got paid what their labor was actually worth, there wouldn't be any wealthy people.

"paid what their labor was actually worth"

You mean, more like it was in the fifties and sixties when we had a huge and stable middle class that was a productive marvel and the envy of the world? When ALL Americans were unfathomably wealthy by world standards? In other words, before the effects of the Jewish victory, the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, kicked in?

HITLER WAS RIGHT! It is all a Jewish plot!!!!!!!!

Blistering rejoinder.
My assertion stands. Mockery does not trump accuracy.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Gingrich offered this solution:

Newt refers to a proposal by Peter Ferrara, who was in the White House Office of Policy Development under President Ronald Reagan. The proposal goes like this:

Block grants would still be provided to the states, and states would guarantee a day’s work assignment (paying the minimum wage) to everyone who reports to their local welfare office before 9:00 a.m.

According to Newt, “The welfare office would provide free daycare for participants’ small children”, and the children would “receive medical care and treatment when necessary” (page 190).

Moreover, those working a certain number of hours would receive a Medicaid voucher for private health insurance as well as housing assistance so they could purchase a home. They would also receive the earned-income tax credit. Newt also affirms that the disabled would be trained for some line of work.

Based on minimum wage of $7.25, or $15,000 for a full year’s work, plus EITC, which is $3,000 with one child, and $5,000 with two, plus $1,000 per child tax credit. This plus the in-kind transfers of child care and health care, are an adequate safety net. “What I like about this proposal is that it would give welfare recipients work experience and job skills rather than setting welfare against work.” Newt Gingrich’s To Save America 7: Welfare Reform, Health Care

1. The system would also end all incentives for having children outside of marriage, as a parent would have to work to support a child.

Let's say we have a Mom and two kids. So Gross income would be a whopping $21000/yr less FICA of $1125 we have a take home pay of $19,875 or $1656/mo. The average cost of 1 bedroom apartment in largest 200 cities in the US is $1,025 leaving $631 a month or $147/week to live on. Now if Mom is really smart, extremely frugal, she just might be able to buy groceries and pay utilities, walk miles to works instead of paying $4/day to ride the bus, convince the teachers to provide schools supplies and miscellaneous expense for the kids, never buy new clothes for the family, never go to a dentist, a barbershop or a hair salon, never drink, never smoke, never pay credit card interest, and certainly not squander money on toys for the kids, Christmas, birthdays, entertainment, etc..

The problem is most people that can't seem to find a job and are living on welfare are not that smart. Most have vices. They drink, smoke, or do drugs and certainly aren't very frugal. They throw their money away on stuff for the kids, don't know how to really budget, run out of money, and then borrow at a high interest rates.

So while this plan fits the 1% of those on government subsidies, what happens to the other 99%?

The answer is they get a roommate or share a house
If you cannot afford to live on your own by yourself then you find another party to share with you and reducethe expenses
You Don't Demand that the rest of us pay for you so that you can have a place all to yourself. That solitude is a result of achievement and not an entitlement

And they could live in a friends garage, move in with elderly parents, or maybe just live under a bridge, all just great options for the kids. Most families living on government subsidies, are already living in rather cramped surrounding.

The only cure for low IQ "people of color" poverty is mandatory sterilization. There are exceptions and they should be allowed to have drunk sex.

Move them to Chicago. Chances are another black will gun them down within a few months.

Why don't we gun you down . You are nothing but a hateful pig.

For every lovely on the dole,
Mandatory birth control.

Hitler did that, too. I'm getting a much better picture of where you get your inspiration!

 

[cnelsen]

.

Whites have invented race and racism, so of course we have been.

Fool. Nature "invented" race, and Jews invented "racism", which is exactly the same thing as "familyism". Slavery, the magic totem of the racism zealots, for example, existed everywhere and always. Every culture saw it as something completely normal. The Old Testament, in fact, goes into elaborate detail on just how God wants us to treat our slaves (we are to free the Hebrew ones after six years). It wasn't until 19th Century white Christian males in Great Britain and North America began casting slavery as a moral issue that abolitionist efforts occurred (for the first time anywhere on the planet. You are a blithering idiot to let Jewish Hollywood now tell you that we white males "invented" racism. What a dumb fucking cuck you are, you weak-minded pussy.

 

[cnelsen]

Let's say we have a Mom and two kids. So Gross income would be a whopping $21000/yr less FICA of $1125 we have a take home pay of $19,875 or $1656/mo. The average cost of 1 bedroom apartment in largest 200 cities in the US is $1,025 leaving $631 a month or $147/week to live on. Now if Mom is really smart, extremely frugal, she just might be able to buy groceries and pay utilities, walk miles to works instead of paying $4/day to ride the bus, convince the teachers to provide schools supplies and miscellaneous expense for the kids, never buy new clothes for the family, never go to a dentist, a barbershop or a hair salon, never drink, never smoke, never pay credit card interest, and certainly not squander money on toys for the kids, Christmas, birthdays, entertainment, etc..

The problem is most people that can't seem to find a job and are living on welfare are not that smart. Most have vices. They drink, smoke, or do drugs and certainly aren't very frugal. They throw their money away on stuff for the kids, don't know how to really budget, run out of money, and then borrow at a high interest rates.

So while this plan fits the 1% of those on government subsidies, what happens to the other 99%?

The answer is they get a roommate or share a house
If you cannot afford to live on your own by yourself then you find another party to share with you and reducethe expenses
You Don't Demand that the rest of us pay for you so that you can have a place all to yourself. That solitude is a result of achievement and not an entitlement

And they could live in a friends garage, move in with elderly parents, or maybe just live under a bridge, all just great options for the kids. Most families living on government subsidies, are already living in rather cramped surrounding.

The only cure for low IQ "people of color" poverty is mandatory sterilization. There are exceptions and they should be allowed to have drunk sex.

Move them to Chicago. Chances are another black will gun them down within a few months.

Why don't we gun you down . You are nothing but a hateful pig.

For every lovely on the dole,
Mandatory birth control.

Hitler did that, too. I'm getting a much better picture of where you get your inspiration!

I'd rather be ruled by Adolf Hitler than Yakov Sverdlov.

 

[koshergrl]

Media Yawn at Venezuela’s Spiraling, Socialist Nightmare


“The networks have also been reluctant to attach the ‘socialist’ label to Venezuela’s government, and have utterly failed to criticize liberal politicians and celebrities who have praised the Chávez and Maduro regimes,” Ciandella added.

"Indeed, out of the 50,000 total evening news stories on the three networks, just 25 covered Venezuela, and only seven mentioned “socialism.” In addition, NBC Nightly News only broadcast 13 stories spanning 16 minutes and 54 seconds, ABC’s World News only covered 8 minutes and 34 seconds over seven stories, and CBS Evening News only offered 3 minutes and 11 seconds over five stories.


“The network evening news programs seem allergic to reporting on the ongoing crisis in Venezuela,” Ciandella told LifeZette in an email. “Even worse, the few times they have managed to cover the widespread poverty, starvation and government oppression in that country, they somehow find ways to do that without mentioning the word ‘socialism.'”

 

[koshergrl]

"
"I often say only half-jokingly to students on college campuses who are all in with Bernie Sanders that if they think socialism is such a wonderful economic model: How about a one-way ticket to Caracas?" Stephen Moore, an economic policy analyst and Distinguished Visiting Fellow at The Heritage Foundation, wrote of Venezuela's capitol in a Washington Times op-edpublished May 21.

"You'd be a fool to go there today. Venezuela is a human-rights crisis of epic proportions, with mass hunger, mass poverty, despair, ghetto upon ghetto, and a mass exodus of private businesses and anyone with money," Moore added.

"The burgeoning resistance throws Molotov cocktails, rocks, and even human feces at the security forces during the nonstop rioting. 'I don't fear death because this life is crap,' one protester told the WSJ," Moore added. "It turns out that 'share the wealth' eventually means there is no wealth, and the egalitarian dream means everyone becomes equally poor. Venezuela is on its way to becoming the next North Korea."

Media Yawn at Venezuela’s Spiraling, Socialist Nightmare

 

[koshergrl]

Socialism DOESN'T WORK. Get over it. We are going to eliminate the giant welfare state before it eliminates us. The social experiment failed.

"Human Rights Watch has condemned the Venezuelan government for silencing media opponents, saying that the regime “has expanded and abused its powers to regulate media and has worked aggressively to reduce the number of dissenting media outlets....While some newspapers, websites, and radio stations criticize the government, fear of reprisals has made self-censorship a serious problem.”

"But over the past four years, the Big Three evening newscasts have made no mention of the persecution of their brethren in Venezuela."


"Just last week, the Heritage Foundation’s Stephen Moore called out the media for their perpetually bad reporting on this topic. “Venezuela is a human rights crisis of epic proportions with mass hunger, mass poverty, despair, ghetto upon ghetto, and a mass exodus of private businesses and anyone with money....Yet, no one in the media seems to pay any attention to this man-made disaster.”

Nets Ignore Ongoing Disaster in Venezuela; Downplay Role of Socialism

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Clearly, Republicans are more likely to love communists than anyone else. They love Putin.

So tell us, who did the US Communist Party support the last three Presidential elections?

 

[Vandalshandle]

Clearly, Republicans are more likely to love communists than anyone else. They love Putin.

So tell us, who did the US Communist Party support the last three Presidential elections?

Marx, Lenin, and Stalin!

 

[koshergrl]

The one thing about all commies that is universally true:

They're fucking stupid rubes.