JBeukema
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'baptism' does not simultaneously refer to a legally binding contract with far-reaching legal consequences, Av. That is why legal recognition is so important. Personally, whether any given church, political entity, or individual approves of anyone else's relationship is unimportant
That's exactly my point. Its impossible for proposition 8 to be a restriction on religious freedom because a covenant does not have to be seen as legally binding by the government to be seen as binding to the parties involved.
I'm trying to understand what mean here...you're saying prop 8 wouldn't be a restriction on religious freedom, meaning that if implemented it would not restrict the religious freedom of homosexuals, correct? And that's because it doesn't matter if the government recognizes their marriage, as long as they recognize it themselves?
I think he's saying it's the wrong argument for prop 8 opponents to make
Look, the anti-gay-marriage crowd can chill, because gay marriages being recognized by the state in no way forces their churches or themselves to change their stance on same-sex unions and contrary to their morality and religious beliefs. noone's saying they have to like it- hell, In don't have to approve of your marriage, either. It is fallacious to associate marriage as a legal state between persons with marriage as a religious practice, in a secular state.