full context of spread the wealth comment

[jillian]

I'm not what I would call rich but I do own my home and property free and clear, I don't owe anyone money. I have homeschooled my children untill collage age because I don't agree with public schools. I have 5 children and all of them have been is the military and done their duty to America. But I'll be dammed if I'll give a bunch of lazy welfare people any of my money. I worked hard to get where I am today,I'm 62 years old and have retired. I have enought money put by to live out the rest of my life. Tell me why I should give any of it away.

Then you should make sure the red states stop taking blue statess' money and start voting for democrats.

And you are aware that welfare reform was passed during the clinton administration, right?

but keep up the hysteria.

 

[WhiteLion]

YouTube - Obama talking to Joe the Plumber - Full Context

to take one line out of a more than 3 minute conversation where Obama explains more of what he means is assinine!

No this's what Obama actually ment get the whole scoop not just the feel good parts...

YouTube - Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered

 

[Mom Marie 1946]

Just because I'm a reg Demorcrat does not mean I vote the party. I have not voted for a demorcrat in over 20 years they all stink.

 

[WhiteLion]

Surprisingly enough, it works. A guy I do business with is voting for McCain because he thinks his taxes will go up. He doesn't make anywhere near $250,000 in income...

Well guess what some democrat genius changed the middle class status again lmao they make it sound like a limbo stick "How loooow can you goooo" its getting desperate by the minute
How Low Can It Go? Richardson Pegs Middle Class as Those Making Under $120,000 - FOXNews.com Elections

 

[Care4all]

And in the full context he is talking out of his ass... flat tax would require a 40% tax rate?... and he is still a proponent of inequality... a proponent of higher tax rates for those who earn more.. tax "breaks" in the forms of 'kick backs' to ones who do not even pay taxes....

a pile of shit by any other name would still smell as bad

for God's sake dave they do PAY TAXES....they may not pay income taxes but they do pay FICA taxes of which the surplus, 3 trillion of SS right now and counting, has been used by the federal government to pay for what income taxes should be paying.... SS is a very regressive tax but a FEDERAL tax.....

Because they have used this surplus money of SS, we are paying $100 billion a year in interest payments on it, and our government is going to cut all of these people's benefits because of using their SS surplus for other things....for goodness sakes.

THEY PAY TAXES.

care

 

[Care4all]

and, for YOUR INFORMATION, you don't pay income taxes on the same amount of money that they don't pay income taxes because of your standard deduction....they are getting NOTHING MORE THAN YOU GET when it comes to income taxes....you don't pay any income taxes for the first few thousand per person in your household either.

 

[DiveCon]

Not really. I just did away with his standing discount.

and what will happen to you when he goes to your competition?

 

[DiveCon]

Then you should make sure the red states stop taking blue statess' money and start voting for democrats.

And you are aware that welfare reform was passed during the clinton administration, right?

but keep up the hysteria.

in spite of Clinton being POTUS, by a REPUBLICAN congress
when they were acting like republicans, not like democrats

 

[Wade]

Do you mean a link to the fact that fiscal decisions are made by the Legislative Branch?

I believe that is in the Constitution.

Isn't Obama technically still in the Legislative Branch, some people think Nov. 4th is already past.

 

[Wade]

for God's sake dave they do PAY TAXES....they may not pay income taxes but they do pay FICA taxes of which the surplus, 3 trillion of SS right now and counting, has been used by the federal government to pay for what income taxes should be paying.... SS is a very regressive tax but a FEDERAL tax.....

Because they have used this surplus money of SS, we are paying $100 billion a year in interest payments on it, and our government is going to cut all of these people's benefits because of using their SS surplus for other things....for goodness sakes.

THEY PAY TAXES.
care

Really, any data behind that? I thought social security wasn't a "TAX"? It was a savings account.

Here was a story of Obama talking about how poor people should pay less social security tax. obama $500 SS offset rebate.

 

[Skeptik]

Isn't Obama technically still in the Legislative Branch, some people think Nov. 4th is already past.

Why, yes, he is as a matter of fact. Did you think that his economic plan was what he wanted to do should he lose the election and remain in the Senate?

Or, was he talking about what he might try to do if elected president?

 

[Care4all]

Really, any data behind that? I thought social security wasn't a "TAX"? It was a savings account.

Here was a story of Obama talking about how poor people should pay less social security tax. obama $500 SS offset rebate.

yes really, FICA is taxes...mandatory taxes.

FICA Tax Rates

 

[Care4all]

in spite of Clinton being POTUS, by a REPUBLICAN congress
when they were acting like republicans, not like democrats

WELFARE REFORM:

What it did do was end the condescending attitude that the poor were incapable of improving their situation, and that ``compassion" consisted of supplying money indefinitely to women who had children, but no husbands or jobs. That approach had lured millions into lives of dependency, subsidized an explosion of fatherlessness, and infected neighborhoods with a bias against work and marriage. The bill that Clinton signed replaced deadly condescension with respect. For the first time, welfare would come with strings attached: work requirements and time limits designed to encourage responsibility and self-sufficiency.

The results speak for themselves. Since peaking in 1994, the nation's welfare caseload plummeted by 60 percent, falling from 5 million families to fewer than 2 million. Welfare recipients went to work in droves. The employment rate among those who had been likeliest to slip into long-term dependence -- young mothers who had never been married -- soared by nearly 100 percent. And as more and more mothers left welfare and got jobs, more and more of their children were lifted out of poverty.

Far from throwing a million kids into the streets, welfare reform sent the child poverty rate tumbling, from 20.8 percent in 1995 to 17.8 percent in 2004. In black communities, where welfare had done the most damage, the decline was even more dramatic. ``Black child poverty plummeted at an unprecedented rate, falling to 30.0 percent in 2001," Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation testified before Congress . ``In 2001, despite the recession, the poverty rate for black children was at the lowest point in national history."

Welfare reform success - The Boston Globe

Clinton was most certainly the KEY to welfare reform PASSING, he could have vetoed it a 3rd time....but he didn't, despite the democratic outcry!



i actually can't believe we are still bitching on ONLY 2 million working people receiving it....!

 

[Ravi]

WELFARE REFORM:



Welfare reform success - The Boston Globe

Clinton was most certainly the KEY to welfare reform PASSING, he could have vetoed it a 3rd time....but he didn't, despite the democratic outcry!



i actually can't believe we are still bitching on ONLY 2 million working people receiving it....!

I think it's gone up since Bush took office.

 

[Care4all]

I think it's gone up since Bush took office.

the results they gave were thru 2004....it might be worse now!

 

[DiveCon]

WELFARE REFORM:



Welfare reform success - The Boston Globe

Clinton was most certainly the KEY to welfare reform PASSING, he could have vetoed it a 3rd time....but he didn't, despite the democratic outcry!



i actually can't believe we are still bitching on ONLY 2 million working people receiving it....!

it wasnt as if he had much of a choice
Clinton was one to always check the winds, he knew that the majority of people supported it

 

[greenpartyaz]

According to Reagan, Trickle Down is spreading the wealth.

The term does not refer to socialism. Nice soundbite, but bullshit.

Spreading the wealth is also spreading the opportunity for gaining wealth. This means beyond the upper 1% but to the whole middle class.

I am always amazed by how many in a middle class income have bought into the trickle down theory.

Ronald Regan was a fucking idiot! Wealth does not trickle down, it only drives up! Fuck you Regan!

 

[Ravi]

Ronald Regan was a fucking idiot! Wealth does not trickle down, it only drives up! Fuck you Regan!

I agree. Though it's trendy to look down on Bush, if anyone deserves to be dragged from their grave and beaten it's Ronnie.

 

[DiveCon]

Ronald Regan was a fucking idiot! Wealth does not trickle down, it only drives up! Fuck you Regan!

yes it does
you are the fucking moron

 

[DiveCon]

I agree. Though it's trendy to look down on Bush, if anyone deserves to be dragged from their grave and beaten it's Ronnie.

yeah? when was the last time a poor man gave you a job?