full context of spread the wealth comment

[Ravi]

Rich people, soaked in a butter rum sauce, topped with capers and sauted shallots.............yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

 

[Silence]

smart guy! really really smart guy!

oh yeah...it's super smart to vote against your own self-interest!

 

[Annie]

Surprisingly enough, it works. A guy I do business with is voting for McCain because he thinks his taxes will go up. He doesn't make anywhere near $250,000 in income...

How about $150k? That's the latest number by Biden, over the weekend. Obama on Friday said, $200k. By next Wednesday, probably $42k, which is what Obama last voted on.

 

[Ravi]

How about $150k? That's the latest number by Biden, over the weekend. Obama on Friday said, $200k. By next Wednesday, probably $42k, which is what Obama last voted on.

Slip of the tongue by Biden, according to all reports.

I don't think anyone should lower taxes at this point for anyone, we've got way too much debt. But the idea of lowering them for the people that actually spend money is somewhat sensible.

I never understood the mindset of people that don't think they owe their country anything--and in my opinion, that includes taxes to pay for our security.

 

[DiamondDave]

Slip of the tongue by Biden, according to all reports.

I don't think anyone should lower taxes at this point for anyone, we've got way too much debt. But the idea of lowering them for the people that actually spend money is somewhat sensible.

I never understood the mindset of people that don't think they owe their country anything--and in my opinion, that includes taxes to pay for our security.

How about not owing anything more than anyone else...

Everyone pays for equal legal help, law enforcement, national defense etc....

But no... that's not good enough for the touchy feely libbies.... their liberal guilt makes them think to use the government as a tool to be generous with everyone else's earnings

 

[DiamondDave]

You don't realize the rich don't give a fuck about you. You make the same as you did in 1999 and the rich caused inflation with their radical agendas.

So why should Chris give a fuck about them? He's not looking to make them poor, but they sure do seem to be trying to make us poor.

About Republicans for Obama | Republicans for Obama

The only people who are still voting McCain are the super rich, super racist or super stubborn/stupid/ignorant.

I must be rich then.. because I certainly don't give a fuck about you

 

[Ravi]

How about not owing anything more than anyone else...

Everyone pays for equal legal help, law enforcement, national defense etc....

But no... that's not good enough for the touchy feely libbies.... their liberal guilt makes them think to use the government as a tool to be generous with everyone else's earnings

I don't have any guilt. And I don't have any problem paying a higher tax rate if I make more money. I'd have a hard time being successful without all the bennies that come as being an American. You can call it guilt, I call it gratitude.

But feel free to offer a welfare plan that actually benefits the country more than ours does.

 

[Valerie]

You can call it guilt, I call it gratitude.

Sounds inspiring.

 

[DiamondDave]

But feel free to offer a welfare plan that actually benefits the country more than ours does.

CHARITY

The voluntary giving to help causes you believe in

Because nobody is owed a damn thing

 

[Mad Scientist]

Here's the full context and meaning of that statement:

"All your money are belong to us".

 

[Gunny]

YouTube - Obama talking to Joe the Plumber - Full Context

to take one line out of a more than 3 minute conversation where Obama explains more of what he means is assinine!

It means the same fucking thing no matter how you try and spin it.

 

[Wade]

The reason the Middle Class is voting out of their tax bracket, is because a lot of us still understand that "their money isn't ours for the taking". Some of our parents taught us to work for ourselves and not rob from others.

You all sound like none of you want to be rich. Cool, let the ones of us that are willing to work for it, take the shot at it. Take a little personal responsibility for why you didn't make better of yourself. If you like most leeches, you have a list of others to blame your problems on.

The constitution has protections for minority groups, all groups are protected under the constitution, so that the populous shall not deny their liberty. So, what the rich don't deserve the same rights granted to all groups?

It's getting cold outside, put your hands in your own pockets.

 

[Skeptik]

"For the small business people, I want to eliminate the capital gains tax."

Gee, I wonder why the McCain camp didn't seize on that one?

How come we don't hear that repeated ad naseum on rant radio?

Could it be that such a statement wouldn't serve to paint Obama as a "socialist" or an "extreme left winger"?

Taking one phrase, and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill as the McCain camp is trying to do is a sign of desperation.

That is the observation of someone who is not necessarily an Obama supporter at all.

 

[Wade]

"For the small business people, I want to eliminate the capital gains tax."

Gee, I wonder why the McCain camp didn't seize on that one?

How come we don't hear that repeated ad naseum on rant radio?

Could it be that such a statement wouldn't serve to paint Obama as a "socialist" or an "extreme left winger"?

Taking one phrase, and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill as the McCain camp is trying to do is a sign of desperation.

That is the observation of someone who is not necessarily an Obama supporter at all.

Maybe it's because the Lawyer understands that the fiscal decisions are made by the Legislative, and he can't do anything without them. So, his promises are not his to be made, and will be shouldered by Batman and Robinhood over in the Senate and House.

 

[Skeptik]

Maybe it's because the Lawyer understands that the fiscal decisions are made by the Legislative, and he can't do anything without them. So, his promises are not his to be made, and will be shouldered by Batman and Robinhood over in the Senate and House.

Wouldn't that apply to the "spread the wealth" statement also?

 

[Wade]

Wouldn't that apply to the "spread the wealth" statement also?

No, he's been for that all his life, so he probably actually meant that. I can't find any reference to him being for small businesses 10 years ago. Maybe you have a link?

 

[Skeptik]

No, he's been for that all his life, so he probably actually meant that. I can't find any reference to him being for small businesses 10 years ago. Maybe you have a link?

Do you mean a link to the fact that fiscal decisions are made by the Legislative Branch?

I believe that is in the Constitution.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Thanks for posting this. People are being convinced to vote outside their own tax bracket.

I don't need that video to vote against BHO and I would not have my taxes raised, if you believe his promises. I don't believe him. It is not possible to pay for everything BHO has promised to do with a few percent tax increase on 5% of earners.

And you seem to think that small business will thrive under BHO but again I disagree.

here's why
RealClearPolitics - Articles - Obama's Gloomy Big-Government Vision

Obama unveiled much of his economic strategy in Wisconsin this week: He wants to spend $150 billion on a green-energy plan. He wants to establish an infrastructure investment bank to the tune of $60 billion. He wants to expand health insurance by roughly $65 billion. He wants to "reopen" trade deals, which is another way of saying he wants to raise the barriers to free trade. He intends to regulate the profits for drug companies, health insurers, and energy firms. He wants to establish a mortgage-interest tax credit. He wants to double the number of workers receiving the earned-income tax credit (EITC) and triple the EITC benefit for minimum-wage workers.

The Obama spend-o-meter is now up around $800 billion. And tax hikes on the rich won't pay for it. It's the middle class that will ultimately shoulder this fiscal burden in terms of higher taxes and lower growth.

This isn't free enterprise. It's old-fashioned-liberal tax, and spend, and regulate. It's plain ol' big government. The only people who will benefit are the central planners in Washington.

Obama would like voters to believe that he's the second coming of JFK. But with his unbelievable spending and new-government-agency proposals he's looking more and more like Jimmy Carter. His is a "Grow the Government Bureaucracy Plan," and it's totally at odds with investment and business.

Obama says he wants U.S. corporations to stop "shipping jobs overseas" and bring their cash back home. But if he really wanted U.S. companies to keep more of their profits in the states he'd be calling for a reduction in the corporate tax rate. Why isn't he demanding an end to the double-taxation of corporate earnings? It's simple: He wants higher taxes, too.

The Wall Street Journal's Steve Moore has done the math on Obama's tax plan. He says it will add up to a 39.6 percent personal income tax, a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent estate tax.

Not only is Obama the big-spending candidate, he's also the very-high-tax candidate. And what he wants to tax is capital.

Doesn't Obama understand the vital role of capital formation in creating businesses and jobs? Doesn't he understand that without capital, businesses can't expand their operations and hire more workers?

Dan Henninger, writing in Thursday's Wall Street Journal, notes that Obama's is a profoundly pessimistic message. "Strip away the new coat of paint from the Obama message and what you find is not only familiar," writes Henninger. "It's a downer."

Obama wants you to believe that America is in trouble, and that it can only be cured with a big lurch to the left. Take from the rich and give to the non-rich. Redistribute income and wealth. It's an age-old recipe for economic disaster. It completely ignores incentives for entrepreneurs, small family-owned businesses, and investors. You can't have capitalism without capital. But Obama would penalize capital, be it capital from corporations or investors. This will only harm, and not advance, opportunities for middle-class workers.

Obama believes he can use government, and not free markets, to drive the economy. But on taxes, trade, and regulation, Obama's program is anti-growth. A President Obama would steer us in the social-market direction of Western Europe, which has produced only stagnant economies down through the years. It would be quite an irony. While newly emerging nations in Eastern Europe and Asia are lowering the tax penalties on capital -- and reaping the economic rewards -- Obama would raise them. Low-rate flat-tax plans are proliferating around the world. Yet Obama completely ignores this. American competitiveness would suffer enormously under Obama, as would job opportunities, productivity, and real wages.

Imitate the failures of Germany, Norway, and Sweden? That's no way to run economic policy.

I have so far been soft on Obama this election season. In many respects he is a breath of fresh air. He's an attractive candidate with an appealing approach to politics. Obama is likeable, and sometimes he gets it -- such as when he opposed Hillary Clinton's five-year rate-freeze on mortgages.

But his message is pessimism, not hope. And behind the charm and charisma is a big-government bureaucrat who would take us down the wrong economic road.

if you want to see how BHO will hurt small businesses like mine:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/62628-spouses-voting-for-the-other-guy-2.html#post869422

 

[Bern80]

According to Reagan, Trickle Down is spreading the wealth.

The term does not refer to socialism. Nice soundbite, but bullshit.

Spreading the wealth is also spreading the opportunity for gaining wealth. This means beyond the upper 1% but to the whole middle class.

I am always amazed by how many in a middle class income have bought into the trickle down theory.

You clearly don't understand the word 'opportunity'.

I am amazed that people like you lend no credance to trickle down theory. You seriously want to convince people that nothing good comes from businesses haveing more capital?

 

[Mom Marie 1946]

I'm not what I would call rich but I do own my home and property free and clear, I don't owe anyone money. I have homeschooled my children untill collage age because I don't agree with public schools. I have 5 children and all of them have been is the military and done their duty to America. But I'll be dammed if I'll give a bunch of lazy welfare people any of my money. I worked hard to get where I am today,I'm 62 years old and have retired. I have enought money put by to live out the rest of my life. Tell me why I should give any of it away.