Freedom Flotilla 3 sails to Gaza

[toastman]

Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range
Israel was tonight under pressure to allow an independent inquiry into its assault on the Gaza aid flotilla after autopsy results on the bodies of those killed, obtained by the Guardian, revealed they were peppered with 9mm bullets, many fired at close range.

Nine Turkish men on board the Mavi Marmara were shot a total of 30 times and five were killed by gunshot wounds to the head, according to the vice-chairman of the Turkish council of forensic medicine, which carried out the autopsies for the Turkish ministry of justice today.

The results revealed that a 60-year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip and back. A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less that 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back. Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back, said Yalcin Buyuk, vice-chairman of the council of forensic medicine.

The findings emerged as more survivors gave their accounts of the raids. Ismail Patel, the chairman of Leicester-based pro-Palestinian group Friends of al-Aqsa, who returned to Britain today, told how he witnessed some of the fatal shootings and claimed that Israel had operated a "shoot to kill policy".

He calculated that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute. One man was fatally shot in the back of the head just two feet in front him and another was shot once between the eyes. He added that as well as the fatally wounded, 48 others were suffering from gunshot wounds and six activists remained missing, suggesting the death toll may increase.
Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range World news The Guardian

They probably shouldn't have attacked the Israeli soldiers and tried to kill them then,huh?

Pro Palestinians like to leave that part out.

 

[Hossfly]

Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range
Israel was tonight under pressure to allow an independent inquiry into its assault on the Gaza aid flotilla after autopsy results on the bodies of those killed, obtained by the Guardian, revealed they were peppered with 9mm bullets, many fired at close range.

Nine Turkish men on board the Mavi Marmara were shot a total of 30 times and five were killed by gunshot wounds to the head, according to the vice-chairman of the Turkish council of forensic medicine, which carried out the autopsies for the Turkish ministry of justice today.

The results revealed that a 60-year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip and back. A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less that 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back. Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back, said Yalcin Buyuk, vice-chairman of the council of forensic medicine.

The findings emerged as more survivors gave their accounts of the raids. Ismail Patel, the chairman of Leicester-based pro-Palestinian group Friends of al-Aqsa, who returned to Britain today, told how he witnessed some of the fatal shootings and claimed that Israel had operated a "shoot to kill policy".

He calculated that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute. One man was fatally shot in the back of the head just two feet in front him and another was shot once between the eyes. He added that as well as the fatally wounded, 48 others were suffering from gunshot wounds and six activists remained missing, suggesting the death toll may increase.
Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range World news The Guardian

Here is the actual footage taken by an activist and smuggled out
Israeli Attack on the Mavi Marmara Raw Footage - YouTube

Shows a bunch of lawbreakers. All the ship had to do was STOP and obey the law. What's so hard to understand about? Allahu Akbar my ass.

 

[kwc57]

This gives Israel the perfect opportunity to shoot itself in the foot again.

You are right. Israel learned her lesson well the first time. No way will Israel request the ships stop for inspection again when close to Israel's shore. This time Israel will just torpedo it.

Just one more crime against humanity to add to the long long list of Zionist atrocities if they do.

Are you a natural born idiot or do you have to practice?

 

[montelatici]

Turkish warships will escort aid vessels to Gaza: Erdogan

"From now on, we will not let these ships to be attacked by Israel, as what happened with the Freedom Flotilla," Erdogan said.

A declaration of war that will result in the Turkish vessels being sank

You underestimate the Turkish military.

Warrior - Military History Forums Video News - Scout Front Page

No you underestimate International law and the UN if Turkey sets out in a belligerent manner. Expect the US and EU to station warships in the Med and of the coast of turkey.

Doubtful, Turkey is a member of NATO, If Turkey is attacked on the high seas while protecting shipping I suspect Article 5 of the Treaty would be invoked.

Article 5. The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security."

This is not about members attacking one another. Besides, Turkey won't break the law unless they want to be sunk.

Israel is not a member of NATO.

 

[toastman]

This gives Israel the perfect opportunity to shoot itself in the foot again.

You are right. Israel learned her lesson well the first time. No way will Israel request the ships stop for inspection again when close to Israel's shore. This time Israel will just torpedo it.

Just one more crime against humanity to add to the long long list of Zionist atrocities if they do.

Are you a natural born idiot or do you have to practice?

I asked him a similar question once. I have yet to get a response.

 

[Hossfly]

A declaration of war that will result in the Turkish vessels being sank

You underestimate the Turkish military.

Warrior - Military History Forums Video News - Scout Front Page

No you underestimate International law and the UN if Turkey sets out in a belligerent manner. Expect the US and EU to station warships in the Med and of the coast of turkey.

Doubtful, Turkey is a member of NATO, If Turkey is attacked on the high seas while protecting shipping I suspect Article 5 of the Treaty would be invoked.

Article 5. The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security."

This is not about members attacking one another. Besides, Turkey won't break the law unless they want to be sunk.

Israel is not a member of NATO.

I wouldn't think a country not located in the North Atlantic would be a member so they can sink Erdogan's garbage scows when they show up.

 

[Slyhunter]

Suggestion dont run blockades. Problem solved.

Don't have blockade. Problem solved.

Don't want a blockade don't launch attacks into someone else's backyard.

 

[Slyhunter]

A declaration of war that will result in the Turkish vessels being sank

You underestimate the Turkish military.

Warrior - Military History Forums Video News - Scout Front Page

No you underestimate International law and the UN if Turkey sets out in a belligerent manner. Expect the US and EU to station warships in the Med and of the coast of turkey.

Doubtful, Turkey is a member of NATO, If Turkey is attacked on the high seas while protecting shipping I suspect Article 5 of the Treaty would be invoked.

Article 5. The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security."

This is not about members attacking one another. Besides, Turkey won't break the law unless they want to be sunk.

Israel is not a member of NATO.

Israel in, Turkey out.
Problem solved.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Suggestion dont run blockades. Problem solved.

Don't have blockade. Problem solved.

Don't want a blockade don't launch attacks into someone else's backyard.

Palestinians launch rockets into their own towns that they were expelled from in 1948.

 

[Slyhunter]

Suggestion dont run blockades. Problem solved.

Don't have blockade. Problem solved.

Don't want a blockade don't launch attacks into someone else's backyard.

Palestinians launch rockets into their own towns that they were expelled from in 1948.

That was stupid.

 

[Hossfly]

Suggestion dont run blockades. Problem solved.

Don't have blockade. Problem solved.

Don't want a blockade don't launch attacks into someone else's backyard.

Palestinians launch rockets into their own towns that they were expelled from in 1948.

That was stupid.

And childishly sophomoric as Tinmore would say.

 

[Roudy]

Turkish warships will escort aid vessels to Gaza: Erdogan

"From now on, we will not let these ships to be attacked by Israel, as what happened with the Freedom Flotilla," Erdogan said.

A declaration of war that will result in the Turkish vessels being sank

You underestimate the Turkish military.

Warrior - Military History Forums Video News - Scout Front Page

Right. Don't underestimate the Greeks, Persians, Egyptians and Romans either. A few thousand years ago they had a great militaries. Ha ha ha.

Numb nuts.

 

[montelatici]

Using analysis compiled by belligerents is un helpful. US/UK/Israel/Palestinian and most Muslim sources will not be reliable. Here is a Spanish analysis and Spain has a long history with respect to the law of the sea.


"the actions committed by the Israeli Armed Forces when seizing foreign-flagged ships on international waters ... and when causing the death of some of its passengers, do clearly violate the International Law ... No State whatsoever can arrogate faculties for restricting the freedom of movement of any ship on international waters, much less for storming foreign-flagged ships, exception made of the few exceptions authorized by the International Law (piracy, slave trade, suspicions of fake identifications, etc.). Thus, it is not legitimate to resort to the Maritime War Law concepts of a blocked zone or blocked port, when such a war is inexistent ... In 1988 it was agreed ... the Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts Against the Safety of Maritime Navigation (SUA) that ... typifies as a crime taking control of a ship by force, or exerting violence over shipped persons, for whatever private or public reason, for whatever economic or terrorist interests.... Israel recently ratified this Convention (it entered into force for Israel on April 2009) ... SUA Article 6.1 establishes as the forceful jurisdiction for sanctioning the illicit actions the same country whose flag carries the ship on which or against which the forceful action has been taken..."

Un il cito internacional Edici n impresa EL PA S

 

[P F Tinmore]

Suggestion dont run blockades. Problem solved.

Don't have blockade. Problem solved.

Don't want a blockade don't launch attacks into someone else's backyard.

Palestinians launch rockets into their own towns that they were expelled from in 1948.

That was stupid.

And correct.

Najd Gaza - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[toastman]

Suggestion dont run blockades. Problem solved.

Don't have blockade. Problem solved.

Don't want a blockade don't launch attacks into someone else's backyard.

Palestinians launch rockets into their own towns that they were expelled from in 1948.

That was stupid.

And correct.

Najd Gaza - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You mean FORMER towns.

 

[rylah]

Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range
Israel was tonight under pressure to allow an independent inquiry into its assault on the Gaza aid flotilla after autopsy results on the bodies of those killed, obtained by the Guardian, revealed they were peppered with 9mm bullets, many fired at close range.

Nine Turkish men on board the Mavi Marmara were shot a total of 30 times and five were killed by gunshot wounds to the head, according to the vice-chairman of the Turkish council of forensic medicine, which carried out the autopsies for the Turkish ministry of justice today.

The results revealed that a 60-year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip and back. A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less that 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back. Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back, said Yalcin Buyuk, vice-chairman of the council of forensic medicine.

The findings emerged as more survivors gave their accounts of the raids. Ismail Patel, the chairman of Leicester-based pro-Palestinian group Friends of al-Aqsa, who returned to Britain today, told how he witnessed some of the fatal shootings and claimed that Israel had operated a "shoot to kill policy".

He calculated that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute. One man was fatally shot in the back of the head just two feet in front him and another was shot once between the eyes. He added that as well as the fatally wounded, 48 others were suffering from gunshot wounds and six activists remained missing, suggesting the death toll may increase.
Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range World news The Guardian

A hard proof needed (as demanded before) for such hard accusations.
Any document proving the "back of the head" claim or admit a misleading mistake.


Failing to present such evidence will be considered as a full denial of those claims,
with acceptance of Your actions being a hate crime and identity murder.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Don't have blockade. Problem solved.

Don't want a blockade don't launch attacks into someone else's backyard.

Palestinians launch rockets into their own towns that they were expelled from in 1948.

That was stupid.

And correct.

Najd Gaza - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You mean FORMER towns.

Whatever. It is legal to run settlers off your land.

 

[rylah]

Don't want a blockade don't launch attacks into someone else's backyard.

Palestinians launch rockets into their own towns that they were expelled from in 1948.

That was stupid.

And correct.

Najd Gaza - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You mean FORMER towns.

Whatever. It is legal to run settlers off your land.

Tried to look for cities those arabs actually built prior to '48..

Really what cities did they build as "palestinians"?

 

[Roudy]

Using analysis compiled by belligerents is un helpful. US/UK/Israel/Palestinian and most Muslim sources will not be reliable. Here is a Spanish analysis and Spain has a long history with respect to the law of the sea.


"the actions committed by the Israeli Armed Forces when seizing foreign-flagged ships on international waters ... and when causing the death of some of its passengers, do clearly violate the International Law ... No State whatsoever can arrogate faculties for restricting the freedom of movement of any ship on international waters, much less for storming foreign-flagged ships, exception made of the few exceptions authorized by the International Law (piracy, slave trade, suspicions of fake identifications, etc.). Thus, it is not legitimate to resort to the Maritime War Law concepts of a blocked zone or blocked port, when such a war is inexistent ... In 1988 it was agreed ... the Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts Against the Safety of Maritime Navigation (SUA) that ... typifies as a crime taking control of a ship by force, or exerting violence over shipped persons, for whatever private or public reason, for whatever economic or terrorist interests.... Israel recently ratified this Convention (it entered into force for Israel on April 2009) ... SUA Article 6.1 establishes as the forceful jurisdiction for sanctioning the illicit actions the same country whose flag carries the ship on which or against which the forceful action has been taken..."

Un il cito internacional Edici n impresa EL PA S

Meh, more hot smelly air coming out of the antisemite:

UN rules that Israeli blockade is legal in blow to failing flotilla

More bad news for the dwindling number of flotilla activists hanging around the ports of Greece. The now completed UN Inquiry on last year’s Gaza flotilla incident aboard the Mavi Marmara found that Israel’s blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza is legal and the Israeli government owes no apology or reparation to Turkey.

The UN investigative committee, headed by former Prime Minister of New Zealand and internationally renowned jurist, Geoffrey Palmer, actually criticizes Turkey for not doing enough to prevent the flotilla from setting sail and for also providing a somewhat anaemic and lacking investigation into the events of May 2010.
**
Argument is moot!

What time is it? It's bitchslap the IslamoNazi scumbag Monte time!

 

[toastman]

Don't want a blockade don't launch attacks into someone else's backyard.

Palestinians launch rockets into their own towns that they were expelled from in 1948.

That was stupid.

And correct.

Najd Gaza - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You mean FORMER towns.

Whatever. It is legal to run settlers off your land.

Najd doesn't exist. It's called Sderot. Sderot is part of the sovereign state of Israel. There are no settlers living there. Keep living in your dream world Tinmore.