Uknow_me72
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Personally I have never tried to join the group but I have spoken several conversations with a phema worker that is associated.
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Actually there are different oaths for each level you obtain. each one going up has a more extreme way of being killed for "treasonous" acts. here is a typical oath a mason of the 3rd degree takes.
I, _________, of my own free will and accord, in the presence of Almighty God, and this Worshipful Lodge, erected to Him and dedicated to the holy St. John, do hereby and hereon most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, that I will hail, ever conceal, and never reveal any of the secrets, arts, parts, point or points, of the Master Mason's Degree, to any person or persons whomsoever, except that it be a true and lawful brother of this Degree, or in a regularly constituted Lodge of Master Masons, nor unto him, or them, until by strict trial, due examination, or lawful information, I shall have found him, or them, as lawfully entitled to the same as I am myself. I furthermore promise and swear, that I will stand to and abide by all laws, rules, and regulations of the Master Masons Degree, and of the Lodge of which I may hereafter become a member, as far as the same shall come to my knowledge; and that I will ever maintain and support the Constitution, laws, and edicts of the Grand Lodge under which the same shall be holden. Further, that I will acknowledge and obey all due signs and summons sent to me from a Master Masons' Lodge, or given me by a brother of that Degree, if within the length of my cable tow. Further, that I will always aid and assist all poor, distressed, worthy Master Masons, their widows and orphans, knowing them to be such, as far as their necessities may require, and my ability permit, without material injury to myself and family. Further, that I will keep a worthy brother Master Mason's secrets inviolable, when communicated to and received by me as such, murder and treason excepted. Further, that I will not aid, nor be present at, the initiation, passing, or raising of a woman, an old man in his dotage, a young man in his nonage, an atheist, a madman, or fool, knowing them to be such. Further, that I will not sit in a Lodge of Clandestine-made Masons, nor converse on the subject of Masonry with a clandestine-made Mason, nor one who has been expelled or suspended from a Lodge, while under that sentence, knowing him or them to be such. Further, I will not cheat, wrong, nor defraud a Master Masons' Lodge, nor a brother of this Degree, knowingly, nor supplant him in any of his laudable undertakings, but will give him due and timely notice, that he may ward off all danger. Further, that I will not knowingly strike a brother Master Mason, or otherwise do him personal violence in anger, except in the necessary defense of my family or property. Further, that I will not have illegal carnal intercourse with a Master Mason's wife, his mother, sister, or daughter knowing them to be such, nor suffer the same to be done by others, if in my power to prevent. Further, that I will not give the Grand Masonic word, in any other manner or form than that in which I shall receive it, and then in a low breath. Further, that I will not give the Grand Hailing Sign of distress except in case of the most imminent danger, in a just and lawful Lodge, or for the benefit of instruction; and if ever I should see it given, or hear the words accompanying it, by a worthy brother in distress, I will fly to his relief, if there is a greater probability of saving his life than losing my own. All this I most solemnly, sincerely promise and swear, with a firm and steady resolution to perform the same, without any hesitation, myself, under no less penalty than that of having my body severed in two, my bowels taken from thence and burned to ashes, the ashes scattered before the four winds of heaven, that no more remembrance might be had of so vile and wicked a wretch as I would be, should I ever, knowingly, violate this my Master Mason's obligation. So help me God, and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.
Notice the he swears to uphold the laws and the constition of the Lodge and not of the United States.
Personally I have never tried to join the group but I have spoken several conversations with a phema worker that is associated.
you see the blue lodge stops at master mason. after that its the scottish rite or the york rite. every degree higher ask for the same oath, but different punishments. when you get into the scottish right, even murder and treason are taken care of by the lodge. their constitution is higher than the laws of our country, for reason being they feel they created this country. same as the skull and bones. they see us regular everyday people as barbarians, not equal to them in anyway. they even set their watches 5 mins. ahead so they are not insync with the everyday world. surprisingly youll find this alot in societies like this. but again lets get this clear, not all masons are on an agenda. its the rich, powerful, and high ups that are doing things like this. your everyday garden variety mason doesnt even have a clue. if all members knew what was going on, they eventually would leak it out. thats why not all members can know. so when people attack freemasonary, dont attack it as a whole, attack the leaders.
Notice the he swears to uphold the laws and the constition of the Lodge and not of the United States.
your country comes first, especially if you are a politician.
my grandfather always told me that mason law is above any other law.
For one, notice how i say not all masons are bad, ie my grandfather in the scottish rite. I may be ill informed on somethings, but thats only cause my grandfather died before i was rightful age to join, or for him to tell me certain things. My grandfather also told me this old saying "ask a freemason about the faternity and you will get a lie". im not going to sit here and say i know everything there is to know about masonry, but im not going to sit here and believe everything thrown at me. i make educated decisions, with a fair chance for both sides. im not saying freemasonry is the father and creator of the evil elite. im just saying that they probably used freemasonry as a networking medium to meet other elites. now what i do say i only say from the mouths of freemasons, shriners themselves. people like john todd, bill schnoebelen, etc. who have left positions as masons and shriners, who can prove that they were members, who can prove anything they back up, certificates, pictures, documents. so yes i may be in the dark on a portion of things, but i have done my homework, i have listened to masons who have left, and i dont just jump off and believe all masons are evil and intend to take over the world. i do believe though that there are some out there, ruining it for the others, just like you find in any group. hell even on of the freemasons mascot, george washington, denounced masonry towards the end of his death. he went on to say "for the most part child's play," and that "it might be used for the worst of purposes." after 1753 george washington stopped attending lodge meetings all together. towards the end he made some speeches against masonry.