Former DOJ national security chief says that Trump likely violated the Espionage Act and a separate federal statute

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The Espionage Act has a specific provision that relates to gross negligence of handling of documents.

The full interview has a lot of interesting insights.

“There's a variety of different possible crimes, but I think the two that are probably worth focusing the most on are 18 USC 2071. This really applies to any federal government employee who, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys public records, right? Records that are public records. Another potential crime is actually under the Espionage Act, which is 18 USC 793. And that actually has provisions that apply to essentially the mishandling through gross negligence, permitting documents to be removed from their proper place, or to be lost, stolen, or destroyed. There's also conspiracy provisions within that 18 USC 793. But certainly gross negligence could be proved by willfulness, because that would be even beyond gross negligence.”

One other important point she makes is that the FBI would have good reason to believe evidence is still there.

“It's a very overt step for the FBI to actually execute a search warrant that signals to the whole world that they had probable cause — that a federal judge agreed with — to believe that the evidence of a crime would be located in the premises to be searched at the time it was searched. So it couldn't be, "We thought the stuff was there a year ago, but not now." It would have to be probable cause to believe that evidence of a crime exists in that location at that time. And that means that the Department of Justice, probably at the highest levels, probably all the way up to the attorney general, agreed that this was a step that was not only legally supportable, but also important to take.”


 
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The Espionage Act has a specific provision that relates to gross negligence of handling of documents.

“There's a variety of different possible crimes, but I think the two that are probably worth focusing the most on are 18 USC 2071. This really applies to any federal government employee who, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys public records, right? Records that are public records. Another potential crime is actually under the Espionage Act, which is 18 USC 793. And that actually has provisions that apply to essentially the mishandling through gross negligence, permitting documents to be removed from their proper place, or to be lost, stolen, or destroyed. There's also conspiracy provisions within that 18 USC 793. But certainly gross negligence could be proved by willfulness, because that would be even beyond gross negligence.”

One other important point she makes is that the FBI would have good reason to believe evidence is still there.


“It's a very overt step for the FBI to actually execute a search warrant that signals to the whole world that they had probable cause — that a federal judge agreed with — to believe that the evidence of a crime would be located in the premises to be searched at the time it was searched. So it couldn't be, "We thought the stuff was there a year ago, but not now." It would have to be probable cause to believe that evidence of a crime exists in that location at that time. And that means that the Department of Justice, probably at the highest levels, probably all the way up to the attorney general, agreed that this was a step that was not only legally supportable, but also important to take.”



Based on what information?

The warrant hasn't even been made public and dissected by legal minds, that would be more revealing, no?
 
It's far more likely that this is bullshit. Like the last 2 impeachments and the ongoing Jan 6th humbuggery. And Democrats go silent on Hunter Biden lap top, SHHHH. certain social media bans any mention of Hunter or Big daddy Joe and questionable foreign involvements based on evidence. The evidence is ignored, yet mere unproven anecdotal rumors Trump sneezed sideways, Trump should be mortally harmed. Raiding Mer-a-Lago is unprecedented and will come back to bite the liberal shit head democrats in ass.
 
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The Espionage Act has a specific provision that relates to gross negligence of handling of documents.

The full interview has a lot of interesting insights.

“There's a variety of different possible crimes, but I think the two that are probably worth focusing the most on are 18 USC 2071. This really applies to any federal government employee who, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys public records, right? Records that are public records. Another potential crime is actually under the Espionage Act, which is 18 USC 793. And that actually has provisions that apply to essentially the mishandling through gross negligence, permitting documents to be removed from their proper place, or to be lost, stolen, or destroyed. There's also conspiracy provisions within that 18 USC 793. But certainly gross negligence could be proved by willfulness, because that would be even beyond gross negligence.”

One other important point she makes is that the FBI would have good reason to believe evidence is still there.

“It's a very overt step for the FBI to actually execute a search warrant that signals to the whole world that they had probable cause — that a federal judge agreed with — to believe that the evidence of a crime would be located in the premises to be searched at the time it was searched. So it couldn't be, "We thought the stuff was there a year ago, but not now." It would have to be probable cause to believe that evidence of a crime exists in that location at that time. And that means that the Department of Justice, probably at the highest levels, probably all the way up to the attorney general, agreed that this was a step that was not only legally supportable, but also important to take.”


Lies.
 
The Espionage Act has a specific provision that relates to gross negligence of handling of documents.

The full interview has a lot of interesting insights.

“There's a variety of different possible crimes, but I think the two that are probably worth focusing the most on are 18 USC 2071. This really applies to any federal government employee who, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys public records, right? Records that are public records. Another potential crime is actually under the Espionage Act, which is 18 USC 793. And that actually has provisions that apply to essentially the mishandling through gross negligence, permitting documents to be removed from their proper place, or to be lost, stolen, or destroyed. There's also conspiracy provisions within that 18 USC 793. But certainly gross negligence could be proved by willfulness, because that would be even beyond gross negligence.”

One other important point she makes is that the FBI would have good reason to believe evidence is still there.

“It's a very overt step for the FBI to actually execute a search warrant that signals to the whole world that they had probable cause — that a federal judge agreed with — to believe that the evidence of a crime would be located in the premises to be searched at the time it was searched. So it couldn't be, "We thought the stuff was there a year ago, but not now." It would have to be probable cause to believe that evidence of a crime exists in that location at that time. And that means that the Department of Justice, probably at the highest levels, probably all the way up to the attorney general, agreed that this was a step that was not only legally supportable, but also important to take.”



Hillary Clinton had around 2,000 classified documents on personal internet-accesible servers in her house and her phones while she was acting as Secretary of State for Obama. She and four of her staff were destroying evidence during an ongoing federal investigation and bragging about it.

The FBI was informed of "no-go zones" on questions they were not allowed to ask her or her staff regarding the mishandling of classified information, some of it being compartmented information. Meanwhile, Hillary and her staff smashed about ten phones and destroyed the sim cards that went with them with hammers, which also contained classified contents.

Her husband then proceeded to board a Department of Justice airplane and had an unsupervised, unrecorded, ex-parte thirty minute conversation with the head of the DOJ, Loretta Lynch. Twenty Four hours later, the case against her was dismissed by Comey and Obama began traveling around the country to campaign for her.

In addition to that, there were literally truckloads of "things" taken to a warehouse upon Obama's departure from the White House. The national archives folks had to push him to get back the items and documents that they say he took inappropriately. This isn't uncommon.

Only thing uncommon is how they dealt with Trump.
 
The Espionage Act has a specific provision that relates to gross negligence of handling of documents.

The full interview has a lot of interesting insights.

“There's a variety of different possible crimes, but I think the two that are probably worth focusing the most on are 18 USC 2071. This really applies to any federal government employee who, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys public records, right? Records that are public records. Another potential crime is actually under the Espionage Act, which is 18 USC 793. And that actually has provisions that apply to essentially the mishandling through gross negligence, permitting documents to be removed from their proper place, or to be lost, stolen, or destroyed. There's also conspiracy provisions within that 18 USC 793. But certainly gross negligence could be proved by willfulness, because that would be even beyond gross negligence.”

One other important point she makes is that the FBI would have good reason to believe evidence is still there.

“It's a very overt step for the FBI to actually execute a search warrant that signals to the whole world that they had probable cause — that a federal judge agreed with — to believe that the evidence of a crime would be located in the premises to be searched at the time it was searched. So it couldn't be, "We thought the stuff was there a year ago, but not now." It would have to be probable cause to believe that evidence of a crime exists in that location at that time. And that means that the Department of Justice, probably at the highest levels, probably all the way up to the attorney general, agreed that this was a step that was not only legally supportable, but also important to take.”


You mean like how Comey said Hillary did....right before HE used powers he did not have to prevent her indictment....
 
Hillary Clinton had around 2,000 classified documents on personal internet-accesible servers in her house and her phones while she was acting as Secretary of State for Obama. She and four of her staff were destroying evidence during an ongoing federal investigation and bragging about it.

The FBI was informed of "no-go zones" on questions they were not allowed to ask her or her staff regarding the mishandling of classified information, some of it being compartmented information. Meanwhile, Hillary and her staff smashed about ten phones and destroyed the sim cards that went with them with hammers, which also contained classified contents.

Her husband then proceeded to board a Department of Justice airplane and had an unsupervised, unrecorded, ex-parte thirty minute conversation with the head of the DOJ, Loretta Lynch. Twenty Four hours later, the case against her was dismissed by Comey and Obama began traveling around the country to campaign for her.
Lol umm okay so Hillary is guilty but Trump gets a pass?
 
You mean like how Comey said Hillary did....right before HE used powers he did not have to prevent her indictment....
Trump’s FBI appointee did nothing to reverse that if that were the case. Why is that?
 

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