For Those Who Didn't Hear it the First Time

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    The word "Islam" does not translate to "peace." This is such an important statement that it bears repeating...flashily (is that even a word?).

    "Islam" does not mean "peace."

    Islam, literally translated, means "submission." The "peace" Islam speaks of is a peace that can only follow submission to Islam.

    The idea that Islam means peace is something that has been invented by Islamophiles the world over in order to try to convince people that the rampant riots, terrorism, and wars of subjugation have no relation to true Islam, and that these people are heretics or something, but the truth is that translating Islam to mean "peace" is one of the most misleading translation errors (intentional or not) since King James translated the Hebrew word ratsach to mean kill rather than murder.

    On a side note, another mistranslation widely exists when going from the Quran to the English meaning, and that is the word deen. In many of the same places that translate Islam to mean "peace," the word deen is translated into English as "to convert," as in, "Mohammad converted the unbelievers." The word deen actually means "to subjugate." Kind of puts a new spin on the "Religion of Peace."

    I got much of this information from different sites, but this Islamic site sums it up rather nicely.

    Edit: forgot this.
     
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    So why is Bush giving speeches calling it the religion of peace? He's selling us out, that's why. His family has been dealing with saudis for years now. He's a corrupt fuck.
     
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    Islam does indeed mean submission, however it is not neccesarily about the submission of others. It is the submission of oneself to the power of God or Allah.
     
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    Submission to God, or in their case, submission to God and to those who are supposedly closest to God.
     
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    Interpret it how you like, but remember the religion has been called Islam for about a thousand years, I seriously doubt the name had the same connotations that it does today.
     
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    Search for yourself. The Arabic translation of Muslim is "one who submits to God's will". The act of submission (based on five generalized points) is Islam. In the Islamic world, the closer your blood line (tribe) is to Mohammad, the closer you are to God. This determines your place in society. They don't let any Abdul be an Imam, it's all in the blood line.
     
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    Not just blood line. Paula is a woman...she could never be one.
     
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    Damn. Poor Paula. :(
     
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    Straight up.
     
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    Dawwwg. :)
     

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