For those of you who just...don't...get...it

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  1. Bullypulpit
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    <center><h1><a href=http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cat.html>CONVENTION AGAINST TORTURE</a></h1>
    <b>and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading
    Treatment or Punishment</b></center>


    <blockquote>The States Parties to this Convention,

    Considering that, in accordance with the principles proclaimed in the Charter of the United Nations, recognition of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

    Recognizing that those rights derive from the inherent dignity of the human person,

    Considering the obligation of States under the Charter, in particular Article 55, to promote universal respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms,
    Having regard to article 5 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and article 7 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, both of which provide that no one may be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment,

    Having regard also to the Declaration on the Protection of All Persons from Being Subjected to Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, adopted by the General Assembly on 9 December 1975 (resolution 3452 (XXX)),

    Desiring to make more effective the struggle against torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment throughout the world,

    Have agreed as follows:

    Part I
    Article 1

    1. For the purposes of this Convention, torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.
    2. This article is without prejudice to any international instrument or national legislation which does or may contain provisions of wider application.

    Article 2

    1. Each State Party shall take effective legislative, administrative, judicial or other measures to prevent acts of torture in any territory under its jurisdiction.
    2. No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat or war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.
    3. An order from a superior officer or a public authority may not be invoked as a justification of torture.

    Article 3

    1. No State Party shall expel, return ("refouler") or extradite a person to another State where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of being subjected to torture.
    2. For the purpose of determining whether there are such grounds, the competent authorities shall take into account all relevant considerations including, where applicable, the existence in the State concerned of a consistent pattern of gross, flagrant or mass violations of human rights. </blockquote>

    The US is signatory to this treaty, and is in breach of it.
     
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    According to the bolded parts, any country with a jail or a police force is in violation of this article. The problem is that the article is weitten too vaguely, allowing for such broad interpretation that normal interrogation techniques can be called "torture" by peacenik liberals.
     
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    Bully - you should be smart enough to NOT fall for the kinds of bull you seem to buy into...it's very strange.
     
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    What ever gave you that idea -=d=-?
     
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    Just another bag of dog poop set afire and tossed on the front porch for someone to stomp.
     
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    And judging by the amount of that crap he posts on here, he must spend a considerable amount of time digging that shit up. His brain is simply pickled with it. I believe he's beyond hope.

    I know he gets his kicks posting it here too. He always gets someone to "stomp on the burning bag".

    I can't bring myself to give him a thoughtful response, since all he ever posts is bullshit, that's all I ever give him in return.

    Just look at his self portrait he's using as an avatar. A picture speaks a thousand words.
     
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    I can't look again....Once is MORE than enough. :)
     
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    :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
     
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    Severe pain and suffering = Cruel and unusual punishment. You're reaching boyo, and missing.
     
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    Aside from gop jeff, it seems that those who have responded thus far lack the wherewithal to address the issue. Thus they resort to mindless ad hominem attacks. Well, the mindless part suits them well.
     

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