Parents Not Doing Job?

Adam's Apple

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Parents Get Failing Grades
By Ruben Navarrette, Dallas Morning News
January 6, 2005

DALLAS -- Many Americans are confronting their greatest challenge. It's not making a living, making a career for themselves, or making a difference in the world. It's parenthood.

Hollywood has picked up the cue. In one current release, "Spanglish," the characters struggle with parenting challenges across the cultural divide. In a forthcoming Vin Diesel movie, "The Pacifier," the muscular protagonist isn't battling bad guys. He's baby-sitting. In researching the role, Diesel could have gotten some advice from real-life parents who, at wit's end, had to go to extreme lengths to control their unruly children.

For a lesson about what not to do, there is the woeful example of Cat and Harlan Barnard of Deltona, Fla. Having run out of ideas about how to get their two children to help with household chores, the Barnards recently went "on strike." Cat Barnard said she and her husband had tried every flavor of psychology imaginable. They offered rewards. They withheld allowances. They promised. They threatened. Nothing worked.

They should have tried being better parents -- and done it early enough in their children's lives so that it made an impact. I hear it from good parents all the time: Lay down the rules to your kids when they're 5 or pay the price when they're 15. A couple I know requires their two daughters, both in elementary school, to do their own laundry, change their own sheets and wash their own dishes.

There was a time when such a thing wouldn't have been considered so extraordinary. Unfortunately today, with housekeepers so common, it is. Maybe I'm being unfair. Maybe the Barnards are perfectly fine parents, but, somewhere along the line, they obviously failed at one part of the job that is pretty important: instilling a sense of discipline and obedience in their children. We're talking about a 12-year-old and a 17-year-old. Either age is old enough for one to know the difference between a home and a hotel, and to long ago have been disabused of the notion that they could skate through childhood and adolescence without taking out the garbage, picking up a broom or mowing the lawn. And why are the parents in exile, while their lazy offspring sleep warm and cozy in their own beds? If anyone should have relocated to the front yard, it's the kids.

Or maybe something less severe would have done the trick. Consider the wonderful story of the father in Pasadena, Texas. Fed up with three misbehaving sons, ages 9, 11 and 15, he sold their Christmas presents on eBay. The father said that he and his wife had warned the lads several times to shape up or watch the toys be shipped out. Apparently, the little ones are quite spirited -- fighting with each other, using obscene language and the like. At one point, the oldest went so far as to dare his parents to make good on their threat to sell the gifts.

They did. The final touch was when the parents called the naughty boys to a family meeting and showed them what they wouldn't be getting for Christmas: three Nintendo DS video game systems, each loaded with a video game. Those are some pretty nice gifts -- and because of this father's resolve, they will go to needy families in the Houston area. GoldenPalace.com, an online casino based in Antigua, paid more than $5,000 for the three systems and will give them away.

The father, who intends to donate the money to his church, has said that he feels rotten that this had to happen. He shouldn't.

So often these days, parents are taught to accept their children as they are. What these stories remind us is that parents have a responsibility to do something much more important: teach their children what is -- and isn't -- acceptable.

Navarrette is a Dallas Morning News columnist. Contact him via e-mail at [email protected] .
 
I agree kids have to be taught some kind of self discipline or they will not make it. The older you get,the more you need. I personally would not have had the guts to put the video game up for sale on ebay for kids acting up. They may have deserved it though,who knows? I think all kids are different and all parents can raise kids in their own way and do a good job. But one thing they must instill is that sense of confidence by doing some things on their own. It gets so hard as a mom to know how much to do for them and how much is too much. It seems at least some household chores and doing homework on their own until they get stuck is a good start. I have caught myself doing a little too much at times right down to getting a glass of milk for my 9 year old son who is old enough to get it himself. When they do things on their own-they feel better for it and more self confident. This probably should start at a young age,otherwise they turn into the family that had to sell the video game!!!
 
i remember the good old days when (a) parent(s) said to do something it got done. now days you have to beg and plead and bribe. what happened to good old fashion intimidation and fear?
 
Johnney said:
i remember the good old days when (a) parent(s) said to do something it got done. now days you have to beg and plead and bribe. what happened to good old fashion intimidation and fear?

Parents quit being parents. Too much psychology entered into the picture of raising children.
 
Adam's Apple said:
Parents quit being parents. Too much psychology entered into the picture of raising children.
that and everyones afraid to discipline their kids now days for fear of being turned if for some form of abuse. as you know everyone knows how to raise your kids better than you do
 
Johnney said:
that and everyones afraid to discipline their kids now days for fear of being turned if for some form of abuse. as you know everyone knows how to raise your kids better than you do

I agree totally, but that's an ironic comment from someone who claims to know whether someone is even fit to have a child.
 
MissileMan said:
I agree totally, but that's an ironic comment from someone who claims to know whether someone is even fit to have a child.
well the voice of experience has come.
well i guess i could say the same about you too. id like to keep every child in a healthy, hetrosexual (thats <b>mom and dad</b> not mom and mom or dad and dad) enviroment.
 
Johnney said:
i remember the good old days when (a) parent(s) said to do something it got done. now days you have to beg and plead and bribe. what happened to good old fashion intimidation and fear?

It went out the door when a good old fashioned swat on the ass in public suddenly became a child abuse lawsuit.
 
Johnney said:
well the voice of experience has come.
well i guess i could say the same about you too. id like to keep every child in a healthy, hetrosexual (thats <b>mom and dad</b> not mom and mom or dad and dad) enviroment.
My point was that those who don't hesitate to interject themselves into someone elses home shouldn't be surprised or upset when it happens to them.
 
MissileMan said:
My point was that those who don't hesitate to interject themselves into someone elses home shouldn't be surprised or upset when it happens to them.


Hey mr. cool libertarian. Do you think there should be no laws against child abuse?
 
I think we should give every child continuous and unending praise for everything they do and let them do as they wish so as not to damage their fragile and developing personalities...<b>NOT</b>. But that's what many parents seem to think. When this generation actually enters the workforce, they're in for a nasty surprise. In the real world, there are no social passes and all the current educational philosophy is doing is setting them up for failure. Of course their parents buying into this claptrap isn't helping any either.
 
Johnney said:
well the voice of experience has come.
well i guess i could say the same about you too. id like to keep every child in a healthy, hetrosexual (thats <b>mom and dad</b> not mom and mom or dad and dad) enviroment.

There's nothing inherently unhealthy about raising children with same-gender parents. I've seen some pretty screwed up kids coming out of a "normal" family.
 
Bullypulpit said:
There's nothing inherently unhealthy about raising children with same-gender parents. I've seen some pretty screwed up kids coming out of a "normal" family.


I would like to see an actual study done by people that didn't have an agenda either way to get a feel for if that is true. While I know it is true that screwed up people come from all forms of families, I don't necessarily know it is true that there aren't more per capita from homosexual couples than from hetero.

The one personal example of this (homosexual parents) that I know was screwed up pretty bad, not so much because of what the parents did but because of those in society thought about it. The kids were isolated and often afraid to bring friends to their house, or have any other sort of personal contact. However I have seen kids that were isolated that turned out fine. It may be a predisposition or not, I don't know but there is no credible study to say either way.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Hey mr. cool libertarian. Do you think there should be no laws against child abuse?

My statement was not in reference to child abuse or child abuse laws. Now, go back outside and play and let us grown-ups finish our conversation.
 
no1tovote4 said:
I would like to see an actual study done by people that didn't have an agenda either way to get a feel for if that is true. While I know it is true that screwed up people come from all forms of families, I don't necessarily know it is true that there aren't more per capita from homosexual couples than from hetero.

:clap:
 
Bullypulpit said:
I think we should give every child continuous and unending praise for everything they do and let them do as they wish so as not to damage their fragile and developing personalities...<b>NOT</b>. But that's what many parents seem to think. When this generation actually enters the workforce, they're in for a nasty surprise. In the real world, there are no social passes and all the current educational philosophy is doing is setting them up for failure. Of course their parents buying into this claptrap isn't helping any either.

Between overzealous social services, Doctor Spock, the ACLU, left wing idiots who infest our school systems and a court system that takes away parents rights but not their resposibilties, I don't see how anyone can raise a child these days. We're in a hell of a mess. The first step in correcting the situation is to start getting government and the courts the hell out of our homes and out of our families.

I'm not too optimistic that will ever be accomplished.
 
Merlin1047 said:
Between overzealous social services, Doctor Spock, the ACLU, left wing idiots who infest our school systems and a court system that takes away parents rights but not their resposibilties, I don't see how anyone can raise a child these days. We're in a hell of a mess. The first step in correcting the situation is to start getting government and the courts the hell out of our homes and out of our families.

I'm not too optimistic that will ever be accomplished.

The question is, how would you go about it? The first time some real horror story came out because some pycho parents were allowed to act without any fear of outside intervention, everyone would want to reinstitute our current system.

Our current system is a by-product of the "information age". Real-time access to all of the bad news out there (and the mass media's propensity to broadcast it over, and over, and over for ratings) has convinced everyone that things are worse than they really are. A few isolated incidents from around the planet, reported together, now seems like an epidemic.
 
Bullypulpit said:
There's nothing inherently unhealthy about raising children with same-gender parents. I've seen some pretty screwed up kids coming out of a "normal" family.
nothing like setting up kids for ridicule by letting them be parented by queers.
but who knows, maybe all the fags will be dead in the morning.
 

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