For those MAGA People who don't want Giuliani/Romney as SOS : Better Choices available !

[NaturalHorizon]

Just some Key FACTS :

http://www.usmessageboard.com/threa...ew-state-department-to-help-trump-maga.552498

 

[Preacher]

Corker and Rohrabacher are the best available and both are able to reach across the aisle. Bolton is a neo con nut bag,Romney is a RINO traitor,Guiliani eh I really ain't got anything bad to say but I remember not caring for him when he ran for President but he is loyal to Trump.

 

[NaturalHorizon]

Corker and Rohrabacher are the best available and both are able to reach across the aisle. ...

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Both, indeed, appear Competent enough, and rather OK, at First Sight.

But there are some "Details" which should be Clarified.
F.ex. :

- Is that Rumour that Corker (a Solid Guy, for the rest), would Support giving Heavy Weapons to Porshenko's Government in Kiev, against the pro-Russian Eastern Ukranian autonomist regions, Right, or Wrong ?

No War-Mongering between Christians, in fact "Western Culture" People, in the Middle of Europe !

- "Outsider" Rohrabacher, an Interesting guy, still has an old Photo amidst ...Islamic Extremist, Armed Rebels, from Chechnya... Difficult to swallow those Memories of atrociously BeHeaded, Christian a.o. People, by such Islamic Extremst Gangs in the Past, (and impossible to Forget also the Fact that Ben Laden, the future Al-Queda Islamic Terrorist Gang, worked, in the Past as a ... "Merchand" at Istanbul, nowadays Turkey, from where he controled various Islamic Networks towards Bosnia, Chechnya and Pakistan/Afghanistan, etc)...

If that Photo is true, has Rohrabacher realized Today that the overall situation has Changed so much, that such things would be inconceivable Now ?

We really Hope that Both these, otherwise Good elements, can easily and clearly overcome such, eventual, errors, (or that these would prove to be inaccurate).

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... Bolton is a neo con nut bag,...

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Perhaps. But it has to be clearly Checked.

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...Romney is a RINO traitor"

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Notoriously, Many Trump's supporters feel as you do... And there are also others....

As for former USPresident GWBush's nostalgics, they don't like, Neither, his ..."Flip-Flop" inconsistency, as GWB reportedly used to say.

In Addition to the Latest Attempt to Divide the GOP, with the Result, f.ex., to Artificialy "loose" Colorado to the Dems, and/or for Hillary to Claim that she would have got a "Majority" of People's Votes, while, in Fact, the American People Voted in a crystal clear Majority for the Republicans, of the Center-Right, but they were Divided, with a Small Secessionist Candidate, practicaly Paid by Romney and consorts...

Moreover, Romney's Cold War-mongering against Russia etc. is Dangerous, OutDated and inadequat, as well as Contrary to Don Trump's GeoPolitical Strategy, when the No 1 Foreign Policy Priority Today obviously is to Free the World from ISIL's Islamic Terrorism

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... Guiliani, eh .... (sic !)

...I remember not caring for him when he ran for President ....

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- It's not astonishing at all !...

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... I really ain't got anything bad to say, but ... he is loyal to Trump. (sic !)

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(A) For the First Point, just have a Look to the Long List of Mr. Giulianis' various Misdeeds, described in our Publication, (that some do Anything in order to Hide to the People !), here : http://www.usmessageboard.com/threa...ew-state-department-to-help-trump-maga.552498

(B) As for your Second Point, could you, Please, clarify : - "When, exactly, would, Mr. Giuliani, have been ..."Loyal (sic !) to Trump", as you Claim ?

- When he had, previously, Endorsed your abhorred... Romney (Comp. Above) ?

- When he run to get Hired, (earlier this Year : 2016), by ...Cruz ?

- Or when he Searched to Benefit, Later-on, from Trump's Hard Win of GOP's 2015-2016 Primaries, and his Official Nomination by the National Republican Convenion, on July 2016 ?

Indeed, as it's well known, Former Mayor Giuliani, in his Private Business as "Consultant", etc., is Hired and Paid "Not for the Work he does, But for his Name", (i.e. Reputation), which Depends from his supposed "Contacts" with this or that Powerful People, at one or anOther moment, - or, rather, from his Percieved Contacts, as various People Believe that they are, (Rightfuly or Wrongly, i.e. often Based on False Impressions...

F.ex., after Trumps' Election, it's enough for M. Giuliani to simply Stick around Don., in front of Paparazzi, even without eventualy doing anything else, in order to get immediately Paid Higher and Higher Fees, in his Private "Consulting" Business, by whoever falls to that sly Trap of False Appearances, (Comp. Above)...

In Addition, he dares even Seek one or another Top Job, (for the 1st Time in his Life, at a Federal level), in Trump's Administration, as if the new President-Elect owed something, exclusively to Mr. Giuliani, instead of anyone else...

But, why should former Mayor Giuliani's opportunism be given such a Top Job, while f.ex. former Governor Mike Huckabee, had already Endorsed Trump Many Months Before, and always remained Actively "Loyal" to him, since then, After having Previously won the Position of a Frontrunner in GOP's Primaries, able to Challenge McCain, back on 2008 US Presidential Elections, Unlike Giuliani, who, on the Contrary, (despite the Biggest Amount of Money wasted, and all Establishment's Media giving him False "Winning" Polls from the Start), didn't manage to get but Only ... One (1) Elector, lost somewhere accross Nevada's Fog, before Droping Out of the race, back on 2012, completely Discredited and Totaly Rejected by the American People...

Is it, perhaps, because Mr. Giuliani looks ... more Pretty, as Travesti, (when he's disguised into a "Drag Queen", during "Private Parties", as a Video, many Photos and Articles on the Web picture him, already since 2000, i.e. at the Eve of 9/11 : See links published ibid), or because of Giuliani's recent (2016) Decision to Officiate at a "Same Sex Marriage" between 2 Gays at New York, a few Months ago, (See relevant "Romantic" Gay Couple Photo, also ibid) ?

Or because he had reportedly Invited Irregular Immigrants to Search Jobs at New York ?

May be, because Giulani was the only one to Quarrel with 9/11 Victims' Families and Friends, including New York Fire-Fighters, Lock them Out of Ground Zero, and Threaten them with Arrest and Jail (See also ibid) ? Because he massively Destroyed Material Evidence of 911 Terror Attack, Prohibited Helicopters Rescue and Blocked Rescue Doors which gave Access to WTC Buildings' Flat Top, resulting in about 1.800 Survivors of Plane's crash being Trapped and Killed inside the Collapsing Skyscrapers ?

Certainly Not because he is for Genetic Manipulation of Human Embryo, Accepts "Global Warming" theories and believes that All Gore didn't do enough on that, or seeks to Restrict the 2nd Amendment by Limiting Citizens' Right to defend themselves by a Gun.

Neither because he keeps being in favor of the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, favors Military Interventions in Foreign Countries and Wars, as well as Accepts Mass Killings of innocent Civilian People If he might think that it's done for the sake of others, and/or has Strange Links with some Islamic Networks related also to Dangerous, even Terrorist Extremists, as, f.ex. Turkey, Qatar, etc., (ibid)...

All these Facts related to Mr. Giuliani, (and much more), obviously have Nothing Positive, dangerously Disserve and Undermine Trump, Betray the Popular Values Movement which struggled to Elect him in order to MAGA.

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But US President-Elect Don Trump seems to have Various Interesting Alternatives :

- Even if a Recent Meeting between vice-President-Elect Pence and former SOS + White House Security adviser, University Professor Condoleeeza Rice, might be, in fact, related much more with other relevant issues, nevertheless,

Trump has reportedly considered, in the framework of his quest for the Best Possible new State Department's Head, among others, also the following eventual Candidates :

- Richard Haass, President of the Council on Foreign Relations ( since 2003)

- f. US Ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton

- f. CIA Director+, General David Petraeus

- Senator Bob Corker, Chair of Senate's Foreign Relations Committee

- Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, President of House's Sub-Committee on Europe, Asia, and Emerging Threats.

- F. Under-Secretary of State, Richard Armitage

- f. Secretary of Treasury, (+ former Goldman-Sachs CEO), Henry Paulson

-f. Mayor Rudi Giuliani

- f. Governor Mitt Romney

- Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard

- EXXON Company CEO Rex Tillerson

+ Last, but not least, it might be Good to consider also, IF possible, f. Governor Mike Huckabee,
who has a Charismatic personality, with Christian + Jewish links overseas, and Good Moral Positions on the Issues, is actively Faithfull to Trump since the Beginning of 2016, knows Washington DC but wants to "Drain the Swamb" there, has Won in Popularity versus Romney in GOP's 2008 Primaries for the US Presidential Election, as well as compared to Giuliani, and, most of all : He was the 1st to give Priority to the Fight against islamic Extremism, already at a moment when Nobody knew yet not even the existence of ISIS, in a landmark Article published -as Early as since 2008- by the Foreign Policy Review

 

[NaturalHorizon]

+ Giuliani "AntiThesis" of Trump on Iraq + War-mongering, USA Senator warns with No Vote + Blocking

Senator Rand Paul added also his voice together with all those who Denounce the Fact that Former Mayor Giuliani, in addition to his Notorious Inexperience in Foreign Affairs, Risks also Not to Pass the Senate "Narrow" Check, and, at any case, he'd Vote Against him.

Giulani is the "AntiThesis" of US President Elect, Don Trump's clear position against the 2003 War in Iraq, and War-mongering Military Interventions inside Foreign States, "Regime Changes", etc, and, moreover, "he's Unrepentant" on that important point, he Strongy Criticized, adding also Former UN Ambassador Bolton to that.

This includes also Changes of Regimes still existing Today, looking "Less as Diplomacy, and More as War", he pointed out, Warning that every tool would be used in the Senate to Stop and "Block" such an eventual Candidate, including "Filibuster", etc.

Moreover, Giuliani, IF chosen, would have also to Reply to Many Questions about his "Foreign Links", the USA Senator Warned, (probably speaking mainly of ISIL-related Turkey and Qatar, etc).

Mitt Romney is also due to Face Hard Questioning on Iraq War, but, given his notorious ..."Flip-Flop" character, you never know, he reportedly added in substance...

 

[NaturalHorizon]

As Decision Time approaches :

Here is a Recently UPDATED LIST of reported Possible Candidates for the State Department's crucial Top Job of Secretary of State , (Adding +3 New, Together with those already mentioned above) :

- President of the Council on Foreign Relations ( since 2003), Richard Haass

- Senator Bob Corker, Chair of Senate's Foreign Relations Committee

- Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, President of House's Sub-Committee on Europe, Asia, and Emerging Threats.

- Former CIA Director and ISAF Chief, General David Petraeus

- Former US Ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton

- Former Under-Secretary of State, Richard Armitage

- Former Secretary of Treasury, and Goldman-Sachs' Top Official, Henry Paulson

- Former Mayor (and Unsuccesful Senatorial Candidate) Rudi Giuliani

- Former Governor, and Twice Unsuccesful US Presidential Candidate, Mitt Romney

- Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (pro-Bernie Sanders, Resigned from the DNC)

- EXXON Company CEO Rex Tillerson

+ Former Governor of Utah, Ambassador, and US Presidential Candidate, Jon Huntsman

+ Former NATO SACEUR, now Dean of the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University, Amiral Stavrides

+ Senator, and former Governor, Joe Manchin, West Virginia, (an atypical Dem., also reportedly considered for other possible jobs)

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- Last, but not least, it might be Good to consider also, IF possible, former Twice Elected Governor, and Front-Runner 2008 GOP Primary US Presidential Candidate, Mike Huckabee, who has a Charismatic personality, with Christian + Jewish links overseas, and Good Moral Positions on the Issues, is actively Faithfull to Trump since the Beginning of 2016, knows Washington DC but wants to "Drain the Swamb" there, has Won in Popularity versus Romney in GOP's 2008 Primaries for the US Presidential Election, as well as compared to Giuliani, and, most of all : He was the 1st to give Priority to the Fight against islamic Extremism, already at a moment when Nobody knew yet not even the existence of ISIS, in a landmark Article published as Early as since 2008 by the Foreign Policy Review.
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(Note : The 3 more Candidates Added above, obviously raise a Question about their more or less Notable Links to Democratic Party Politicians, but they have also various Qualities, and might have been condidered as one among several practical ways to overcome an eventual Threat by the Establishment to Attempt to Block a fully-fledged 100% pro-Trump positioned Secretary of State designate.

At any case, their recent Addition naturaly gives More Precious Time for Careful and Serious, in Depth Thought, as well as eventual New Findings, for the Best possible Candidate, able and trustworthy for leading, at these Crucial Times, the USA State Department, at a Key Area of President-Elect Don Trump's overall Political Strategy).

 

[NaturalHorizon]

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- Welcome Mr. Tillerson !

US President-Elect, Don Trump's pick to for New State Department's Chief, succesful EXXON-Mobil's CEO, Rex Tillerson, contrary to what Obama/Clinton's cronies claimed, in a gross attempt to Slander, has with his Company, Big Oil/Gas Energy Deals not just with Russia, at the Arctic, but also at the Gulf of Mexico, and even at Qatar, and elsewhere in the World.

He also looks Wise enough to avoid Obama/Clinton Outgoing Liberal Establishment's blunders, as that which practicaly Turned even Western Countries towards Qatar, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, (i.e. notoriously too close to ISIL and Islamization), but rather to Turn Qatar towards the West, (as it almost was, sometimes in the Past), including, f.ex. through the Suez Channel, controlled by Ally Country Egypt, (etc).

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[EvilCat Breath]

TRex looks like a hard ass to me. He isn't about to let Iran walk all over him.

 

[NaturalHorizon]

TRex.... isn't about to let Iran walk all over him.

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Most probably not.