For the former GOP, now the POT, it's rule or ruin.

[berg80]

The mentality of MAGAists appears to be if the people do not give them the power to rule they will tear the place down. This, in the form of threatening the full faith and credit of the US to ruinous affect by treating the debt ceiling as a policy bargaining chip, and refusing to fund the government. We know from experience these issues are of no concern when they rule. That is, when a Repub is in the WH.

This behavior has consequences with Moody's citing POT lead government dysfunction.

Moody's cuts U.S. outlook to negative, citing deficits and political polarization

The ratings agency cut its outlook on the U.S. government to negative from stable.

www.cnbc.com

Perhaps the most overt example happened when 147 congressional Repubs were so upset the voters rejected the MAGA king they...........

147 Republican lawmakers still objected to the election results after the Capitol attack

Congress has certified President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the election — but some Republicans still objected.

www.vox.com

Speaking of the MAGA king, they want to empower him to decide who gets prosecuted

Trump says on Univision he could weaponize FBI, DOJ against his enemies​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/09/trump-interview-univision/

(people trying to hold him to account for his crimes against the US) and who does not (he has stated he will pardon the convicted members of the 1/6 MAGA mob).

Otherwise, they will shut the government down, entertain the prospect of impeaching Biden for nothing, and generally act as a wrecking ball towards the constitutional order. They seem to think it is their right to govern, or not govern as evidenced by the chaos in the House, because they are white, christian, males. If not that then what since their policy positions are almost uniformly unpopular with a majority of Americans?

 

[Moonglow]

I'll be waiting on the steps of the capital with a loaded gun this time, I'll be the one sitting on the steps.

 

[Crepitus]

I'll be waiting on the steps of the capital with a loaded gun this time, I'll be the one sitting on the steps.

That isn't really the kinda thing you wanna post on an open forum.

Just some friendly advice.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The rest of America anti-MAGA will be waiting for MAGA to act up; with great excitement, waiting for MAGA to go all traitor.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You lost at MAGAt

That's some stupid shit

 

[Oddball]

 

[Manonthestreet]

The mentality of MAGAists appears to be if the people do not give them the power to rule they will tear the place down. This, in the form of threatening the full faith and credit of the US to ruinous affect by treating the debt ceiling as a policy bargaining chip, and refusing to fund the government. We know from experience these issues are of no concern when they rule. That is, when a Repub is in the WH.

This behavior has consequences with Moody's citing POT lead government dysfunction.

Moody's cuts U.S. outlook to negative, citing deficits and political polarization

The ratings agency cut its outlook on the U.S. government to negative from stable.

www.cnbc.com

Perhaps the most overt example happened when 147 congressional Repubs were so upset the voters rejected the MAGA king they...........

147 Republican lawmakers still objected to the election results after the Capitol attack

Congress has certified President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the election — but some Republicans still objected.

www.vox.com

Speaking of the MAGA king, they want to empower him to decide who gets prosecuted

Trump says on Univision he could weaponize FBI, DOJ against his enemies​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/09/trump-interview-univision/

(people trying to hold him to account for his crimes against the US) and who does not (he has stated he will pardon the convicted members of the 1/6 MAGA mob).

Otherwise, they will shut the government down, entertain the prospect of impeaching Biden for nothing, and generally act as a wrecking ball towards the constitutional order. They seem to think it is their right to govern, or not govern as evidenced by the chaos in the House, because they are white, christian, males. If not that then what since their policy positions are almost uniformly unpopular with a majority of Americans?

Funny how libs are destroying everything they touch

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Can I get a Cult45?

Maybe Orange Man Bad?

Step up the game

 

[GMCGeneral]

Funny how libs are destroying everything they touch

Hence the reason why Democrats, ALL Democrats are the enemy of America and need to be destroyed.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Evangelicals and Pentecostals and fundamentalists are the true domestic foe to America.

 

[berg80]

The rest of America anti-MAGA will be waiting for MAGA to act up; with great excitement, waiting for MAGA to go all traitor.

I contend this..........Donald Trump and his allies have begun mapping out specific plans for using the federal government to punish critics and opponents should he win a second term, with the former president naming individuals he wants to investigate or prosecute and his associates drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the military against civil demonstrations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/

.......means the wait is over. You know, if the plot to take the power to elect their government away from the people wasn't enough.

 

[berg80]

Funny how libs are destroying everything they touch

Kinda looks like you borrowed Rick Wilson's book title...

Everything Trump Touches Dies: A Republican Strategist Gets Real about the Worst President Ever​

 

[Manonthestreet]

Kinda looks like you borrowed Rick Wilson's book title...

Everything Trump Touches Dies: A Republican Strategist Gets Real about the Worst President Ever​

Just the facts.

 

[berg80]

Just the facts.

I've read Wilson's book. I agree.

 

[GMCGeneral]

I've read Wilson's book. I agree.

Sorry, but the worst "president" is the Mulatto Menace

 

[Mac1958]

The mentality of MAGAists appears to be if the people do not give them the power to rule they will tear the place down.

It's difficult to imagine, it seems like hyperbole, but it appears to be the case.

Look at what Trump says so often at his rallies: "This is the Final Battle". That's not a throwaway line. Whoever writes his speeches (Stephen Miller?) knows that apocalyptic words and phrases like that are taken literally by the base. There is clearly a religious correlation here.

Yeah. It looks like they're willing to rip it down if they lose.

 

[berg80]

It's difficult to imagine, it seems like hyperbole, but it appears to be the case.

Look at what Trump says so often at his rallies: "This is the Final Battle". That's not a throwaway line. Whoever writes his speeches (Stephen Miller?) knows that apocalyptic words and phrases like that are taken literally by the base. There is clearly a religious correlation here.

Yeah. It looks like they're willing to rip it down if they lose.

Imagine what a field day Repubs would have had with a Dem prez appointing a chief-of-staff who called himself a Leninist. As for Steve's advocacy of anarchy, obviously that message resonates with Trumpists. It taps in to the disaffection at the core of MAGAism.

 

[Mac1958]

Imagine what a field day Repubs would have had with a Dem prez appointing a chief-of-staff who called himself a Leninist. As for Steve's advocacy of anarchy, obviously that message resonates with Trumpists. It taps in to the disaffection at the core of MAGAism.

The thing is, they really don't understand what they're asking for, what the real life ramifications would be.

Bannon just stokes their manipulated rage and then tries to leverage it.

 

[berg80]

The thing is, they really don't understand what they're asking for, what the real life ramifications would be.

Bannon just stokes their manipulated rage and then tries to leverage it.

Wondering if you have seen the "Insurrectionist Next Door?" Seems as though many members of the mob were lost souls seeking to cling on to something offering a sense of purpose to their sad lives. Amazingly, given the grievous nature of what they participated in, I found myself feeling sorry for them. And being concerned about the dangers of having so many people like them in our midst.

 

[Mac1958]

Wondering if you have seen the "Insurrectionist Next Door?" Seems as though many members of the mob were lost souls seeking to cling on to something offering a sense of purpose to their sad lives. Amazingly, given the grievous nature of what they participated in, I found myself feeling sorry for them. And being concerned about the dangers of having so many people like them in our midst.

Absolultely. And honestly, I don't look at these people as being awful or whatever adjective may be used. I think that most of them love their country and want what's best for it. The problem is, they have been terribly manipulated and taken advantage of by voices they have chosen to trust. So yeah, in that way, they've been victimized.

At the same time, they have to be held accountable. This is just a shitty time. There are no winners, outside of people like Bannon.