For Anyone Who Wants to Impeach President Obama...

[Oldstyle]

Why even waste the time? Unless some sort of economic miracle occurs he's going to be gone next November anyways.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Did you even watch your own video?

Obama hasn't stepped on the toes of Congress at all. All of the EOs that he's passed are not mandatory, nor are they law.

What Obama did was override and pass public law in spite of the duly elected legislators and the United States Constitution. IF we were a nation of law, Obama would be impeached and removed from office for violating his oath of office to uphold said Constitution.

I understand that you are a partisan, you serve your party, not the nation and certainly not the constitution. These violations occur because there are enough like you, who place party above all, that they can get away with it.

 

[BlindBoo]

Can't be done as the Congress is constituted presently anyway. The House votes to Impeach. The Senate does the dirty work. The Senate has a Democratic majority, currently under the leadership of Harry Reid. Reid would fall on his ceremonial sword, first, before he would vote to remove Obama from office. There are no practical circumstances that would cause the rest of the Senate's Democratic majority to Impeach Obama.
Argument is moot.

I'm pretty sure the House has to pass impeachment by 2/3rds as well, then the Senate by 2/3rds.

Obama is guilty of racketeering.

Will he ever be charged or impeached? probably not.

In the house it's a straight majority vote. To convict in the Senate however does take 2/3rds majority.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Did you even watch your own video?

Obama hasn't stepped on the toes of Congress at all. All of the EOs that he's passed are not mandatory, nor are they law.

What Obama did was override and pass public law in spite of the duly elected legislators and the United States Constitution.

Except he didn't pass any laws, he passed non-binding EOs. The whole point of the article is that he CAN'T pass anything as law without Congress.

IF we were a nation of law, Obama would be impeached and removed from office for violating his oath of office to uphold said Constitution.

No, he wouldn't. Do you think that Obama is the first President to issue executive orders?

I understand that you are a partisan, you serve your party, not the nation and certainly not the constitution.

Actually, I serve myself, my friends and my family. I'm not a member of any political party, and serve none.

These violations occur because there are enough like you, who place party above all, that they can get away with it.

Is mindless rhetoric and assumption all you've got? Because I'm none of the things you claim I am.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Except he didn't pass any laws, he passed non-binding EOs. The whole point of the article is that he CAN'T pass anything as law without Congress.

Except that he did, he declared public law by fiat.

No, he wouldn't. Do you think that Obama is the first President to issue executive orders?

Executive order are just that, orders by the executive to the departments that report to him. Obama went beyond this by dictating public policy, i.e. declaring public law. This violates the Constitution.

Actually, I serve myself, my friends and my family. I'm not a member of any political party, and serve none.

I find you defending democrats often, Republicans never.

Is mindless rhetoric and assumption all you've got? Because I'm none of the things you claim I am.

Alright, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Except he didn't pass any laws, he passed non-binding EOs. The whole point of the article is that he CAN'T pass anything as law without Congress.

Except that he did, he declared public law by fiat.

No, he didn't. Re-watch your video.

No, he wouldn't. Do you think that Obama is the first President to issue executive orders?

Executive order are just that, orders by the executive to the departments that report to him. Obama went beyond this by dictating public policy, i.e. declaring public law. This violates the Constitution.

But he didn't do that. And your linked video says that.

Actually, I serve myself, my friends and my family. I'm not a member of any political party, and serve none.

I find you defending democrats often, Republicans never.

My political opinions certainly lean left. But I'm not a fan of Democrats OR Republicans, and only "defend" politicians from ridiculous claims such as yours.

And I "defend" Republicans from ridiculous claims by some of the more ridiculous "liberals" on this board as well.

Is mindless rhetoric and assumption all you've got? Because I'm none of the things you claim I am.

Alright, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I'm not registered with a party. I didn't, and will not, vote for Obama. I think he's a power-hungry war-monger and corporate puppet.

But, as our system is set up, he hasn't broken any laws, let alone committed "high crimes".

 

[Gadgeteer]

you may want to read the new book, "With Liberty and Justice for SOME" by Glenn Greenwald. I just finished it. You may very well find grounds for it.

There will never be a successful impeachment. There is too much power behind the scenes.

In October 2008 WND reported that obama's grandma said, "Why, he was born in MOMBASSA KENYA, I was there!"

Less than two weeks later was the election, Grandma was dead.

obama has many of the same people as clinton did --- and I have three pages of tiny font, single-spaced, zero margins, of people who died mysteriously around the clintons.


My fear is that obama will be re-elected no matter what. The 2000 election between Bush and Gore in Florida was rigged. That is not speculation, it is an inside opinion -- I know someone highly placed in Florida.

It was rigged for GORE. It was not rigged far enough. Gore was astonished, and was quoted as saying:
"I don't understand, I was supposed to WIN!"

The 2008 election was more rigged. Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck for instance voted thousands of times. ACORN was largely responsible for the rigging. Unless we have a major landslide, obama will be re-elected.

...and we won't have a country any more.

Sigh.

This in the right forum?

Yes.

I don't want him impeached. I just want him defeated in November.

Good News: I think you'll get your wish!

The likelihood is that obama will NOT be defeated --- the 2000 Florida election was rigged for Gore. The 2008 national election was severely rigged for obama. The 2012 election will be more rigged.

Sigh.

 

[Gadgeteer]

It's rare that a single post is as full of fail as this one.

The Clinton body count? I haven't heard that one in a while.

I added James McDougal to the list. He "died in prison of an apparent heart attack, seriously crippling Starr's prosecution against the Clintons".

Susan McDougal continues to say "No way, I don't know anything, no sir, not a thing!"

I don't blame her.

 

[Gadgeteer]

Obama wanted his "jobs bill," his Porkulus II to further rape the public on behalf of well connected looters. Even Harry Reid balked at this blatant theft from the public treasury and shot the bill down in the democrat controlled Senate. So Obama simply ignored the congress and took a shit on the Constitution by declaring public law through EO.

This is a direct and flagrant violation of the United States Constitution.

Norah O'Donnell: Obama to issue exec orders until jobs bill passes - CBS News Video

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Legally, he should be impeached.

From a political perspective, it would be a disaster. I agree, we just bide our time until he's voted out next November.

I still say that unless there is a severe landslide, he'll be re-elected. It may be true that "an election cannot be rigged past a certain point", but I don't know.

Anyone ever read a sci-fi novel, "Stainless Steel Rat for President"? Harry Harrison wrote some fun stories. Their presidential election was seriously rigged...

Meanwhile, "obamacare" will be allowed to persist. obama has stacked the court with robots/parrots Kagan and Sotermeyer (sp?). So the Supreme Court will rule in favor of socialism/"obamacare".

 

[Uncensored2008]

The likelihood is that obama will NOT be defeated --- the 2000 Florida election was rigged for Gore. The 2008 national election was severely rigged for obama. The 2012 election will be more rigged.

Sigh.

Who is "they?" How do they "rig" an election that is independently conducted in each state?

 

[Gadgeteer]

I'm not registered with a party. I didn't, and will not, vote for Obama. I think he's a power-hungry war-monger and corporate puppet.

He's worse than that. The "world tour" with his Pakistani roommates during his college days had him stopping in many terrorist-run areas. Explains why Hamas and other organizations endorsed him as president.

But, as our system is set up, he hasn't broken any laws, let alone committed "high crimes".

Seems it can be interpreted; by violating the constitution, he has broken laws.

As a certain prominent radio personality noted, "He's either the most incompetent rube ever held office, or he's intentionally trying to destroy the country". Because he's a follower of Saul Alinsky (and many other things), clearly it's the latter...

 

[Moonglow]

America has always worked that way, when is it going to change?

 

[Gadgeteer]

The likelihood is that obama will NOT be defeated --- the 2000 Florida election was rigged for Gore. The 2008 national election was severely rigged for obama. The 2012 election will be more rigged.

Sigh.

Who is "they?" How do they "rig" an election that is independently conducted in each state?

obama is from Chicago, and has ties to Chicago crime. But most active in the last election was ACORN. Busloads of voters hit voting places in specific areas, reportedly using names like "Donald Duck" and "Mickey Mouse".

What happened in 2000 in Florida was the same thing, with additional fraud such as refusing to count absentee ballots from military personnel --- those in the military have seen things in world and therefore tend to be conservative. There were other incidents of fraud, but "ballot-stuffing" is probably the worst danger.

We (Oklahoma) just passed a law that requires photo ID (or a voter registration card) to vote; intending to reduce fraud...

 

[Gadgeteer]

America has always worked that way, when is it going to change?

"Worked" what way? Change is very risky, unless you know exactly what the change brings. I didn't realize what a role the Electoral College played in "checks and balances", until I watched an online video. Without the EC, we really can have "tyranny of the majority".

 

[Moonglow]

America has always worked that way, when is it going to change?

"Worked" what way? Change is very risky, unless you know exactly what the change brings. I didn't realize what a role the Electoral College played in "checks and balances", until I watched an online video. Without the EC, we really can have "tyranny of the majority".

And if you remember the top leaders of our nation were not elected by the masses. The EC does help, but the candidates are well picked and groomed to carry on the work of the nations elite.

 

[samjones]

The likelihood is that obama will NOT be defeated --- the 2000 Florida election was rigged for Gore. The 2008 national election was severely rigged for obama. The 2012 election will be more rigged.

Sigh.

Who is "they?" How do they "rig" an election that is independently conducted in each state?

obama is from Chicago, and has ties to Chicago crime. But most active in the last election was ACORN. Busloads of voters hit voting places in specific areas, reportedly using names like "Donald Duck" and "Mickey Mouse".

What happened in 2000 in Florida was the same thing, with additional fraud such as refusing to count absentee ballots from military personnel --- those in the military have seen things in world and therefore tend to be conservative. There were other incidents of fraud, but "ballot-stuffing" is probably the worst danger.

We (Oklahoma) just passed a law that requires photo ID (or a voter registration card) to vote; intending to reduce fraud...

Plus John McCain was a doddering senile fool and Sarah Palin was total whacko.... all part of the vast conspiracy to put a black man in the White House.

 

[Moonglow]

America has always worked that way, when is it going to change?

"Worked" what way? Change is very risky, unless you know exactly what the change brings. I didn't realize what a role the Electoral College played in "checks and balances", until I watched an online video. Without the EC, we really can have "tyranny of the majority".

And if you remember the top leaders of our nation were not elected by the masses. The EC does help, but the candidates are well picked and groomed to carry on the work of the nations elite.
The other factor that makes many, many leaders play within bounds is the right to bear or to some bare arms for resistance and revolution.

 

[Gadgeteer]

Who is "they?" How do they "rig" an election that is independently conducted in each state?

obama is from Chicago, and has ties to Chicago crime. But most active in the last election was ACORN. Busloads of voters hit voting places in specific areas, reportedly using names like "Donald Duck" and "Mickey Mouse".

What happened in 2000 in Florida was the same thing, with additional fraud such as refusing to count absentee ballots from military personnel --- those in the military have seen things in world and therefore tend to be conservative. There were other incidents of fraud, but "ballot-stuffing" is probably the worst danger.

We (Oklahoma) just passed a law that requires photo ID (or a voter registration card) to vote; intending to reduce fraud...

Plus John McCain was a doddering senile fool and Sarah Palin was total whacko.... all part of the vast conspiracy to put a black man in the White House.

Oh I don't think Palin was a "wacko" --- what I heard from her sounded really good. But in the present arena she just wasn't electable.

McCain --- was really tough to decide who to vote for, I was NOT a McCain fan. He was NOT much better than obama.

 

[Gadgeteer]

America has always worked that way, when is it going to change?

"Worked" what way? Change is very risky, unless you know exactly what the change brings. I didn't realize what a role the Electoral College played in "checks and balances", until I watched an online video. Without the EC, we really can have "tyranny of the majority".

And if you remember the top leaders of our nation were not elected by the masses. The EC does help, but the candidates are well picked and groomed to carry on the work of the nations elite.
The other factor that makes many, many leaders play within bounds is the right to bear or to some bare arms for resistance and revolution.

Yeah, I think you're right. I do believe in prophecy, and see a clear connection between "Real ID" (snuck in by Congress in May 2005 as a rider on another bill) and Revelation 13:15-17.

But one of the funniest things I saw was a girl wearing a T-shirt, a grizzly-bear with a determined and mean expression, holding an M-16.

"I support the right to ARM BEARS..."